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Microsoft CEO Nadella: ZeniMax/Bethesda acquisition is "all about future of software", will consider buying even more video game companies in future
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You can. It already meets some people's standards and will increasingly meet more people's standards.
exactly, this whole shopping spree spirit is not good, not for diversification, not for competition, not for fruitful new ideas because it embraces the "lets do again what was successful" mindset.
Exactly this. People saying that exclusivity is evil are also saying they would rather have the lesser of the two evils. Timed vs permanent. However, if I'm in the Xbox camp, with timed exclusivity, I might not even want to play it after that long a time its out. You're still taking it away from my plate. Not only are you taking games away from my plate, you're also taking game CONTENT away from my plate and asking me to pay full price for the meal while getting less.
It's subjective and hurts people in different ways, but it still hurts. These MS moves are surely going to hurt now as well. If a company is forced to react to push their agenda, then they're going to react if they can afford it and it benefits them.
ti,med excusives are what ever, thats not what sony was doing, they were literly going around offering devs money to exclude xbox. theres a difrence between buying excusives and literly paying devs to release on all platforms, but one.
These are studios that now don't have to worry about breaking even to keep the lights on and can take risks. One flop can sink a studio for good. If anything this is a good thing, especially with rising development costs and economic uncertainty in the world.
Microsoft can only buy a company if they want to be bought. Bethesda obviously wants the financial stability that MS provides.
You cannot seriously sit here and argue that having to wait six months to a year for a game is worse than literally never having access to that game. At the end of the day with a timed deal at least you still get the game.
Microsoft will never leave the hardware side of gaming, because: 1) Nintendo and Sony aren't going to allow Microsoft to put Game Pass onto their platforms 2) Even if they did, they're not going to allow Microsoft to put Game Pass onto their platform and receive 100% of the profit. Because of the second point, selling consoles is always going to be Microsoft's best bet for maximizing consumer profit given the potential for accessories, downloadable content, etc.
Can we really hope for an outcome like this?
It definitely makes sense to me why it would.
But having the game industry under MS's thumb where they get to pick and choose who gets what is something I'm not not looking forward too, no matter how sweet the deal is; GP is $15/m now until it isn't and now the only way to play the new Fallout.
I respect your opinion for sure, I'm just a little sour on this whole thing right.
It's similar to Nvidia and what they did in the AI/ML space while Intel was sleeping. Most people here are still thinking "the big three" means MS, Sony, Nintendo. But Sony and Nintendo aren't the other two. MS kickstarted this before Google and Apple fully realize what is happening, not to mention MS was already in this space for at least a decade. It'll take Google and Apple a while to catch up.
Why wouldn't you have that mindset if you're Xbox? Or Sony? Or Nintendo? Or anyone?
It has been fascinating seeing all this unfold. Just a little while ago, the general public thought the Xbox division might be sold off. Nadella's comments pretty much cement them as permanent players in the industry, and after a $7.5 billion acquisition he's saying he wants more. They really lit a bomb off yesterday
There is a track record of Xbox buying long-running multi-platform franchises and making them exclusive?
These money plays by big corporations are never a good thing, this will have an ugly ending. Sony can't compete with money like that, and neither can Nintendo and that is a huge problem for competition and consumers. A bit worried to be honest, seeing them buy their way to success.
Yah after the mess that was Fallout 76 i have no confidence in Bethesda, i will wait and see.
But since we have not be showed anything when it comes to that game and even they said they will talk when the game is really, 2021 is a pipe dream, let alone Elder Scrolls, that game is not coming out before 2024.
It's not remotely the same thing.
Regardless, it's a powermove. Gotta respect it. It's really worrying aswell, but what can you do besides just enjoying it whilst it is in the consumers favour.
Seems like a weird response when some people are worried about monopolies and consolidation and it's long term effects on the industry.
I think the Spider-Man PS4 game, where Marvel went to Sony because they trusted their ability to make single player games, who then got Insomniac involved. It's not like Spider-Man PS4 always a multi platform IP that was now suddenly only on PS.
They've already said openly that all Double Fine, Obsidian, etc games moving forward will not be on PS4 or PS5. Once any pre-existing contracts were fulfilled, whoosh. Never again.
It blurs the lines, it makes things that stand for diversity moot, it homogenizes the shit out of the whole thing.
in the end it will be about buying all systems there are for hardcore gamers
somehow we are back in the 90s now, from prices over system warring to future outlook.
They are having fun while MS still releases their games on Steam and fooling themselves that this won't stop at some point.
Yes, it's just as bad because it's LOCKED TO ONE SYSTEM when Sony does it. It started with whole games, then game modes, then game content. Then there was the thread of even MORE exclusivity with big named multiplats. How far was Sony willing to go? It seemed nothing was going to stop the timed exclusivity onslaught they were cultivating. At least in MS' case you can still play it on PC. I can't tell you in how many MS exclusive threads where people made the comment, "I'll just get it on PC." Well, that's still the case!
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God this thread is a comedy goldmine. lol
Well, I guess that's what happens when you constantly poke a bear, it's eventually going to respond.
Well, I guess that's what happens when you constantly poke a bear, it's eventually going to respond.
if it wasnt ms, it would be amazon or google. gamming is a proxy fight for cobntrol of the livingroom, and both amazon/google want in. they will get their act togeather soonor or later. like irt or not sony isnt on the same megacorp leval as the 3 of them.
You really think MS just dropped 7.5 billion to wait 3/4 years for its first big game to come out ? Na not having that.
You don't get in this business as a corporation because you care so much about "blurred lines" or homogeneity.
I don't have a gaming-quality PC and I will not be buying one any time soon. So as far as I'm concerned I have zero access to any of those games, ever.
No, that 's exactly what it's like. Spider-man was always a multiplatform IP that is now suddenly only on PS.
Adding PS4 at the end doesn't make it its own IP. Unless I can now say that DOOM Xbox is it's own IP now that was never multiplatform.
has it always been about grabbing third parties? I don't think it has. Did Sony or Nintendo ever throw around billions for third parties publishers, they haven't. And they also haven't relied on subscriptions.
You say it's nothing new, but if anything is new and different it's this move.
Fallout 76 was literally announced on May 30, 2018 and subsequently released that November. Fallout 4 was announced E3 2015, and subsequently released November 2015. The game could easily be unveiled at Microsoft X0 event, or E3 next year, and be ready for release within the next half year to year after that.
This is pathetic, reassess your allegiance to a video game company dude.
Is buying the cheap Xbox Series S not even an option ?
also reports have come out that zenimax was in trouble, they havent had a sales hit since fallout 4.
On Comcast Chicago internet, no. Digital-only consoles are not a viable purchase. Not unless you want to get slugged for 50+ bucks repeatedly every time you download a few oversized patches.
that would be funy, but I doubt ms would spend 20b on square.
Wait you have data caps ? It's 2020 and that's still a thing ?!?
Well, and they annouanced Starfied in 2018 and 2 yeats later we dont know anythign, Elder Scrolls the same thing. CD project red annouanced Cyberpunk in 2013.
You better believe it.
And they didnt spent 7.5B for does games, but for everything, so saying that is the only think Zenimax was important is not true.