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Microsoft Announces Surface Duo phone
- Thread starter FernandoRocker
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Android is really a requirement if you want to get on the ground floor. As seen with Windows Phone, enough devs just won't make a non iOS, non Android version of their app.
Well, I loved Windows Phone 8.1 back in the day. And I'm on Android right now.
Hope they'll be able to combine the best of both worlds. The Windows Phone keyboard, stability, design with the apps of Android.
Hope they'll be able to combine the best of both worlds. The Windows Phone keyboard, stability, design with the apps of Android.
The last time MS tried to go head to head with their own phone OS against Android and Apple they got laughed out of the market. This is MS facing reality and being smart: If you can't beat'em, join'em.
It really really was. Had it just come out 2 or even 1 year earlier I think MS could've captured a good chunk of the market. I'll miss my Zune (my 80Gb died 4 years ago)
That's not really what I had in mind. I mean technically it's a foldable but it's two screens onna hinge, not one screen.
Why, MS's Android support has been really, really good.
A device that isn't running Android (that's not a Apple device) is dead on arrival.
Microsoft failed with a mobile Windows OS twice now (Windows Mobile and Windows Phone), they aren't going to go down that road again.
Google won that battle.
Actually watching the conference and Panos was holding one it doesn't seem that big.
Unless they find a way to fold a screen as clean and flat as that, this remains an interesting compromise of being able to use a small screen for certain things and a big screen for other situations. The compelling aspect of a foldable device is being able to do more with more screen real estate. It makes it situationally versatile. I've always thought the courier device they had in concept was such an interesting piece of design that wasn't in the market, and it was a good idea it didn't come out then, but today, I think we're ready for dual screens. Applications are far more diverse and software is far more mobile-friendly. Like Courier though, there was no way I could justify thinking I'd actually get it, I just don't think I'd really justify buying something like it because I don't even come close to having enough use cases I'd do every day that would justify getting it. Still, I kinda still want it despite myself. I love the idea of being able to do more with more screen, I just don't know if it would be annoying after a while.
Yep, and you don't have a choice with mobile operating systems.
There's two mainstream ones available, and one will never be licensed out, so you really only have one.
Consumers have spoken, they won't buy mobile devices that aren't iOS or Android.
Nice ingeniosity, but this seems as impractical to use, as 2 screens can be.
I like gimmicks and I can recognize it when I see one.
I like gimmicks and I can recognize it when I see one.
mkb got some hands on the prototype. Seems pretty solid.
Still looks like 2 ipad minis connected though lol.
But man, i need to see if i can snag one of these cheaper with our work account.
Galaxy Fold is more futuristic, but this seems way more practical with today's tech until we have quality folding glass.
Phone tech been getting stale for some time now.
Foldable phones or MS best Surface feature: Hinges, might be what we need to innovate instead of throwing more camera lens.
In a typical MS product though, I will wait for version 2. They always compromise with V1.
If the software works as well as that trailer suggests this will be next upgrade.
Shame about that center spacing but phone materials really aren't at a technological level where a company can avoid various compromises.
Shame about that center spacing but phone materials really aren't at a technological level where a company can avoid various compromises.
Shame , if it wasn't on Android I would have definitely bought it Day One and switched off iPhone finally.
If it came out this year, I would have bought it and gave it a try while waiting for the iPhone 12, and maybe kept it based on if the 12 is a significant upgrade finally to the X.
If it came out this year, I would have bought it and gave it a try while waiting for the iPhone 12, and maybe kept it based on if the 12 is a significant upgrade finally to the X.
I am already having sparkles in my eyes about using this device to manage our next E3 or Gamescom showfloor. :)
Was already using a random Android phone for remote setup and management of hundred or so PC game clients and a few game servers.
The future is lovely! :D
Was already using a random Android phone for remote setup and management of hundred or so PC game clients and a few game servers.
The future is lovely! :D
The center hinge makes this look aesthetically dated. Foldable screens makes some sense when you want to fold out a larger screen for media, but with a center hinge, a focus on multitasking is something I don't need on a phone
What Microsoft went with is infinitely more realistic given where we're at technology wise though. Foldable screens just aren't ready for prime time, as cool as they are conceptually.
Very cool!
So, uh... how much are we expecting this thing to cost? Can't be less than a grand, right?
So, uh... how much are we expecting this thing to cost? Can't be less than a grand, right?
Yea for as much of a joke MS has been in the portable space, they have a history of making excellent devices
Always preferred them to the apple alternatives
If only Microsoft knew how to generate buzz for a product.
If only they had enough money to hold another one of these events next year...
yeah... probably another product event in october 2020 and they will definitely show off the final design for the duo and neo before launch.
Don't really see the issue with this approach. Show off upcoming products, and tease future prototypes.
I've been waiting for so long to see what the excellent Surface team came up with for a phone.
This was very underwhelming. Foldable phones just aren't for me.
This was very underwhelming. Foldable phones just aren't for me.
This looks really cool.
Too big, unweildy, and likely expensive for me to replace my iPhone with, but nevertheless I like it much better than Samsung's phone.
Sure this might not be quite as good at watching Netflix as the Galaxy Fold, but I'm not that big on watching Netflix on a phone anyway.
Too big, unweildy, and likely expensive for me to replace my iPhone with, but nevertheless I like it much better than Samsung's phone.
Sure this might not be quite as good at watching Netflix as the Galaxy Fold, but I'm not that big on watching Netflix on a phone anyway.
Amen.
I'm just hoping the keyboard will live up to the Windows Phone one, tried a handful of ones on my Galaxy S9 and none can match the typing experience on a Lumia 920.
I'm on board! I think it looks a little wide, and I hope the final model is a bit more pocket friendly, but if this dual screen phone has stylus support, it's almost definitely my next phone (unless they make another Surface phone that's more look a typical Note).
The black one Panos was holding looked like it had a camera on the other side. This thing is definitely a work in progress.
from the wired article
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The Surface Duo that Panay has been carrying around for six months is black, not white, and it's running a version of Android 9 Pie that's been tweaked to support the dual screens.
Holding the Surface Duo is like holding a shell of the past crammed with a not-fully-realized future. It's as thin and light as a pocketable notebook, the paper kind, but from every angle it gleams with screen and glass and shiny hinges. Like the Neo, it shouts "Surface!" because of its large logo, etched in glass. I know it's a phone—it works like a phone, it is littered with Android apps—and yet I can't imagine making many phone calls from it, or going for a run with it, or, in its current form, using it as my only camera on vacation.
In fact, the most recent version of the Duo doesn't have a rear-facing camera. The way it's currently designed, taking a picture would require the person using it to open the Duo, unlock the Duo, and flip its front-facing camera to the back of the device. I question this, more than once. Panay says it's still early days, that the camera may change, that he's nervous to reveal this so far in advance because it exposes the design to competitors.
"These are our efforts for the past two and a half years, so there's a balance to the number of details I can give, even with regards to the camera," he tells me.``
So yeah they are still keeping some cards hidden. The dream is them going nuts with the camera like in the lumia days lol!
