This does not make any sense to me.
I don't need to stream Crackdown 3 to play the online that utilizes the cloud. I install that and play it locally.
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Microsoft “in talks” for Project xCloud exclusive games [update: "no plans for cloud-exclusive content at this time." See threadmark]
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This does not make any sense to me.
I don't need to stream Crackdown 3 to play the online that utilizes the cloud. I install that and play it locally.
If you mean "Games which are [streaming exclusive] to XCloud", that's silly but unsurprising.
If you mean "Games which are [entirely exclusive] to XCloud and can't be played locally" that's just completely awful. Like another big step towards the permanent dissolution of ownership.
If you mean "Games which are [entirely exclusive] to XCloud and can't be played locally" that's just completely awful. Like another big step towards the permanent dissolution of ownership.
I dont understand what you're saying. Adding quotations around a word doesn't change my comment or add to yours?
Sony hasnt said anything about doing what Stadia and xCloud are. PSNow currently only offers older titles. You think you're going to be able to play Spiderman 2 without owning a PS5 at launch?
Microsoft is probably trying to get exclusive streaming rights for specific games. Imagine if Call of Duty is only on xCloud, instead of its streaming competitors, but you can still buy the physical/digital copy on PS5 and PC.
I'd be surprised if they did this, unless they tailor experiences that really only make sense with streaming in mind, eg. interactive game shows where you'd have to be on the Internet and streaming the content to play either way.
That's why it's not really revolutionary as they had promised in the first place. Look up elastic cloud compute and its possibilities.
Yes, Jim Ryan said in a investors meeting that every PS5 game will be streamable: https://www.gamesradar.com/ps5-streaming/
This sounds like the stuff Stadia was dreaming about in their announcement conference.
1000 player battle royale or a game that requires multiple server blades to run. Something that isn't just streaming the same offline experience we are used to.
But just like Stadia, until they actually show what that game looks like it's tough to imagine it.
Once xCloud switches to using Scarlett, I can sort of imagine it doing these kind of games.
1000 player battle royale or a game that requires multiple server blades to run. Something that isn't just streaming the same offline experience we are used to.
But just like Stadia, until they actually show what that game looks like it's tough to imagine it.
Once xCloud switches to using Scarlett, I can sort of imagine it doing these kind of games.
Until they actually show it, test it publicly and we get to use it, like xCloud. I don't believe anything Sony says pre-console release. They said PS3 would have 120fps, we dont even have that now for anything but pixel art indie games
I will say this, at face value, I am against cloud streaming exclusive games.
The only way this would be of interest to me, is if games get made that require a lot more GPU power/performance than what a Scarlett console can do. If say a XGS game or 3rd party game needs to use several instances of Scarlett SoCs in order for someone's vision of a game to be realized.
I mean the same sort of thing that Google showed using multiple Stadia GPU instances/server blades.
Games that could not even be done on a single high-end PC.
That might be enticing but I would expect that to happen for years.
Other than maybe that, I don't think anyone wants to see cloud exclusive games.
The only way this would be of interest to me, is if games get made that require a lot more GPU power/performance than what a Scarlett console can do. If say a XGS game or 3rd party game needs to use several instances of Scarlett SoCs in order for someone's vision of a game to be realized.
I mean the same sort of thing that Google showed using multiple Stadia GPU instances/server blades.
Games that could not even be done on a single high-end PC.
That might be enticing but I would expect that to happen for years.
Other than maybe that, I don't think anyone wants to see cloud exclusive games.
Jim Ryan said he would acquire studios and improve PS Now right before Insomniac and the price cut. But we'll see soon enough.
That's very different to what Choudhry said.
It's the difference between 'all games will be streamable' and 'these particular games will only be playable via streaming'.
(Side note: it's also a slightly inaccurate read on what Ryan said - he did not explicitly confirm all games will be streamable via the cloud. Everything Sony outlined at their investor day would be compatible with a future where some games are, or all games are - it's left nebulous.)
Sony might in the future work on streaming-only games, but they haven't as yet indicated that.
I like PSNow, it works great for me(data cap excluded). But they aren't putting new games on it and haven't over the past 5 years its available. I hope I'm wrong, God of War showing up 18 months after release is kind of a good sign, I guess?
The thing is, in those cases Google showed, the core game absolutely could. Everything they showed so far could gracefully degrade - distributed particle systems and non-gameplay affecting physics. And economically it also makes sense for them to support graceful degradation back to one unit - so they can distribute capacity in high demand scenarios, or offer cheaper options to play the game.
Stuff like that could be potentially done in hybrid local/cloud games where you can still play locally and without the cloud, but get 'extra' fidelity plugging into cloud resources.
If they start getting into gameplay-affecting distributed processing it would be a little different - but that will be tough to do in a distributed context.
I think the bigger motivation for cloud-only stuff might be in the networking between players. But as local networking improves even that might erode.
What do you mean they aren't? They add new games every month, even GTAV is on it now which is crazy.
Not sure I like the idea of xCloud exclusives. I am fine with it being Xbox exclusive (xCloud, Xbox and PC) as that give me the option of playing where and how I want (i.e. offline or locally without using my bandwidth).
I hope what they mean is they are in talks with studios to make Xbox (platform) exclusives that launch on xCloud on the same date as the local console and PC versions.
I hope what they mean is they are in talks with studios to make Xbox (platform) exclusives that launch on xCloud on the same date as the local console and PC versions.
I'd imagine that certain streaming platforms will have multiplatform games and that to entice players to use their platform, there has to be exclusives to that platform in order to differentiate their value proposition. Not really sure how different that is to normal hardware-based exclusives, though. I suppose, however, if you're on a neutral smartphone platform you get to choose between them all and there has to be some kind of carrot.
NEW. Like it just came out and is available. Death Stranding just came out, its not on PSNow. Gears 5 is relatively new and is in the xCloud beta already.
True.
I really hope there isn't streaming only games.
They should start bringing it to more countries, mine isn't supported yet lol
Yeah, fuck that. Exclusive, streaming-only games are a fucking joke and alienate their own user base.
Not sure what you want to say. Things like Rise of the Tomb Raider you wont see anymore. But thing like the new DontNod game you still can expect. Where XGS is publishing it and its made as a co effort.
Honestly, I think the better use for xcloud is whenever you put in/buy a digital game that isn't installed on the system, the system will start to download/install that game, and meanwhile allow you to play it streamed in the meantime. I think this sort of use should happen without even being prompted about it, it would make a great deal of sense if you could just play any game right away without the messy stuff we've been dealing with since the PS3, and it would then switch over to local content whenever the install is complete.
I could see it for MMO style games, but doesn't make sense for much else.
He's obviously talking about Xbox exclusives, not xCloud specific exclusives. The whole strategy of Xbox going forward is having the same content across their ecosystem - especially on Game Pass - on PC/Xbox/xCloud. We know this.
Note that in that sentence, "Project xCloud" is in brackets, so it is their shorthand interpretation of what he meant and not the words he used.
Phil has repeatedly said that they want to give customers more choices in terms of where you play their games, not less. Hence games coming to Steam too.
Note that in that sentence, "Project xCloud" is in brackets, so it is their shorthand interpretation of what he meant and not the words he used.
Phil has repeatedly said that they want to give customers more choices in terms of where you play their games, not less. Hence games coming to Steam too.
GTAV PS4 port is 5 years old - it's obvious the poster is talking about actual new games, not just games that are new to the service.
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Unless they are talking about an experience that can't be done on local hardware this is boneheaded. This is so dumb if it's a conventional game that just happens to be exclusive.
Imagine thinking that businesses can't / don't change strategies to meet changing market conditions.
I'm not sure why anyone thinks they're looking for xCloud exclusives when they've got Gamepass as a platform to stuff with games.
They didn't go to all that effort and expense to purchase studios for their Gamepass content pipeline just to keep games away on a niche service.
I expect Stevivor took a comment about xbox exclusives and assumed it was in reference to xCloud.
They didn't go to all that effort and expense to purchase studios for their Gamepass content pipeline just to keep games away on a niche service.
I expect Stevivor took a comment about xbox exclusives and assumed it was in reference to xCloud.
We are starting to hear that Amazon will also release a streaming service. The list start to be pretty big and we will see a lots of exclusivity. We saw that with the battle of movie / series streaming, but if I want to watch it, I will always have the possibility to buy it on physical media (with rare exception).
Contrary to what most people think, competition isn't always good for consumers.
See Gylt/Orcs Must Die 3 (albeit the last one is temporary).
Exclusivity is most definitely going to be used a lot.
Could be something like the NES/SNES offer that Nintendo uses to value their online service, or just to have more supported game.
Even the Sony Remote Play requires a certification, for what I know, related to controller used by the game.
Even the Sony Remote Play requires a certification, for what I know, related to controller used by the game.
While I can understand the reticence, what if the exclusive games for xCloud are digital only, always online, games that somehow benefit from the service.The two easy examples that jump to mind for me are an MMO or something like 1v100. Admittedly, it doesn't make sense to make that xCloud exclusive, but maybe there was some sort of miscommunication in the interview and what was meant was something along the lines that games are being built with xCloud specifically in mind and as a focus.
Just a thought.
Imagine making excuses for corporations, and what else might make a comeback with changing market conditions, despite of the good guy PR talk.
So even if I buy the xbox, I might still miss out on some of their exclusives? Talk about slapping your supporters.
Yup.
Their first party games are already exclusive.
I do remember some saying that's what Sony could do to bolster PSNow. But for a few select games.
I would hope if MS does this it's a few select games....need to have that download option, MS.
Why would you be losing any games? They are getting commissioned for x-cloud and wouldn't be made otherwise. It's not like x-cloud is money-hatting things that would have come out anyway.
Your wider concern is a subjective view but totally reasonable.
But x-cloud/Gamepass are the main products, going forward.
X-box will be just one delivery tool for those products.
i´ve said it before, next gen will be the "only on xy stream service" gen. it will be the same as they do with film series at the moment "an prime original" "an netflix original" "an xy original"
they all will produce exclusive games for their services...
they all will produce exclusive games for their services...