Yes but there is a difference between getting older and growing up. I just want to see them all bring their best.
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Microsoft’s Matt Booty Isn’t Interested in a ‘Head-to-Head Bout’ With Sony, Praises PlayStation
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Biggest change was in the new CEO's vision of reinventing Microsoft as a cloud-first, mobile-first company where users aren't bound by a device. Back in summer 2014 he sent his first memo to the company outlining his vision by division and he said that Xbox presented a unique opportunity in his vision. What Xbox is doing today was set in motion back in 2014.
If Ballmer was still in charge I have no doubt it would still be about consoles.
Honestly, this right here. When Nadella took over in 2014, he changed MS. Made them think about the future, and them going head to head with Google & Amazon, heck even surpass them.
Good on Booty. It couldn't be more obvious that Xbox and PlayStation are moving in different directions with different goals and are both probably going to find success. People will be able to choose which platform they prefer and it's going to be great. Platform wars need to die.
The thread title definitely burries the lead here. I think the most remarkable part of this interview is Microsoft showing some self reflection and awareness of their shortcomings. That's really refreshing to see coming from someone who isn't Phil Spencer. It's definitely the right mindset to have. Work on making your own product the best it can be rather than obsessing over the competition.
When you have a rule against console-warring but at the same time still harbor OT threads where console fanboys can gather in their absurdity and then go from thread to thread trying to justify their purchased product of choice.
I think XCloud is that real opportunity for the sort of "lightning in a bottle" you're talking about. Xbox is really just a part of the ecosystem, not the whole thing like was in the mid 2000s. Microsoft sees the forest and not just the trees here, they're planning longer term.
Yeah, alot of this is old. Even Jason Press Sneak thread.
What happened? Did some ppl go on vacation last month?
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Game Pass will be included into xCloud, so unless they block xCloud from PS5 it might actually happen.
It's the worst part of journalism. A friend of mine acted like Booty called a press conference to say that Microsoft wasn't making a real next generation console. Going to be a wild ride until the holidays.
Asking a top executive about how he feels positioned beside the top market player isn't fueling anything.
Spencer is certainly under the grill of a thousand more cruel questioning (and voting) at every MS board council.
The thing is with the old 'Xbox One was focused on multimedia bullshit' line is that in reality whilst yes they put effort into those features, both XGS and Sony have published near-identical amount of titles this generation.
About 50 each so far.
So from that perspective, they've been as focused as each other. Quantity is not the issue for Microsoft.
Perhaps, but Project xCloud could still remain niche as long as data caps exist. This goes for both traditional ISPs and cellular carriers. I don't see it becoming as ubiquitous as the 360 was as long as these limitations are put in place.
They've realized they can't compete with Sony on a global scale in terms of unit sales, so it's not a war worth fighting on that front. Competing on services and subscriptions across console and PC is where it's at for them. It reminds me of Nintendo deciding after the Gamecube to stop competing on power with Sony/MS and take a less traditional route, culminating with the Switch. Ultimately I think it's great for the consumer to have these distinctive approaches going forward.
You realize there are people in their 30s-40s putting on paint, going to sporting events, and possibly getting into violent clashes with fans of other teams right? Tribalism isn't limited to just video games. Video games, cell phones, sports, cars, politics, etc. I'm not defending being a fanboy of anything, but people in here trying to make these holier than thou type comments, I highly doubt you've gone your entire life never engaging in behavior like it.
Just no. That's like saying a printer manufacturer isn't interested in selling printers because he introduced ink as a service.
Paradoxically, this makes the biggest immediate opportunity for XCloud in markets that Xbox traditionally struggled in (Europe, Asia). Streaming really is sort of an inevitability though, ISPs and carriers will adapt as demand does. They already have for video streaming largely.
Reminds me of:
*Before the Wii released, after GameCube got crushed by PS2 and 360 started strong*
Nintendo: "We don't consider ourselves as competing with Sony and Microsoft."
*After Wii is a marketplace phenomenon*
Nintendo: "We are the #1 gaming system in the world!!"
😂
Honestly I wouldn't even be mad at that, keep that trash in there and if you're caught outside that thread doing that shit you get slapped with a month long vacation.
It's looks like we will have a divided console market soon with each focusing mainly on:
Nintendo - main focus on hybrid gaming with fun factor in mind rather than traditional gaming on powerful hardware.
Microsoft - main focus on service/ cloud based gaming with lots of choice how to play games.
Sony - main focus on traditional stationary gaming on great hardware with AAA first party game experience.
everybody gets their own piece of the gaming cake and gamers are spoiled for choice.
Nintendo - main focus on hybrid gaming with fun factor in mind rather than traditional gaming on powerful hardware.
Microsoft - main focus on service/ cloud based gaming with lots of choice how to play games.
Sony - main focus on traditional stationary gaming on great hardware with AAA first party game experience.
everybody gets their own piece of the gaming cake and gamers are spoiled for choice.
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I'm sure Sony would let them, for 30% cut as platform holder.
That's what it's all about the 30%, which is why I think we might be back to loss leader consoles to build the ecosystem. It's all about spending, preferably digitally, hence the move to season passes and DLC and Subscriptions. Selling the boxes isnt the profitable part.
Soooo we shouldn't call that behavior?Those type of people ruin the environment for everyone else.
The barriers between those 3 aren't as sharp as you describe them. Sony invests in streaming services since 2014 and the majority of Xbox' revenues - let alone actual profits - stem from their traditional console business (subs from Xbox Live and royalties), which is not going to change anytime soon. Which is why proclaiming "MS doesn't care where you play your games or if you buy their consoles" is nonsense. At least in the foreseeable future.
Their all different for sure but people forget Sony has services too. Either way still alot of choices for gamers.
Yup people seem to forget Sony has services and they been on going and useable and they are continuing working on them. Same with Nintendo
The way I see it is:
Nintendo - Interested in providing entertainment on dedicated hardware and using exclusive entertainment on phones not only to raise brand awareness but make a substantial amount of money to help pump back into expanding the company horizons, using R&D to keep producing unique products to market and even starting new markets (hybrids).
Sony - Still trying to make the clients come to them, sticking to a relatively traditional model, that is currently working for them
Microsoft - wanting as many people to purchase their products by expanding how said products can be accessed, it's no longer about selling one plastic box, it's about the units of software sold, going as far as xcloud and placing choice software titles on other hardware (Switch). Having no exclusives is fantastic for their current business model and I hope they start trying to get an Xbox app on Mac OS X so Mac users can play Xbox exclusives, because Xbox is the brand, the service, it's transcended above just one box.
All three companies have three separate strategies and I think that can only mean great things for the industry as a whole, no longer is there three companies trying to fight over the same piece of pie IMO.
I wish all but the best for everyone going into the "next generation"! 😁
Nintendo - Interested in providing entertainment on dedicated hardware and using exclusive entertainment on phones not only to raise brand awareness but make a substantial amount of money to help pump back into expanding the company horizons, using R&D to keep producing unique products to market and even starting new markets (hybrids).
Sony - Still trying to make the clients come to them, sticking to a relatively traditional model, that is currently working for them
Microsoft - wanting as many people to purchase their products by expanding how said products can be accessed, it's no longer about selling one plastic box, it's about the units of software sold, going as far as xcloud and placing choice software titles on other hardware (Switch). Having no exclusives is fantastic for their current business model and I hope they start trying to get an Xbox app on Mac OS X so Mac users can play Xbox exclusives, because Xbox is the brand, the service, it's transcended above just one box.
All three companies have three separate strategies and I think that can only mean great things for the industry as a whole, no longer is there three companies trying to fight over the same piece of pie IMO.
I wish all but the best for everyone going into the "next generation"! 😁
Thank you so much for pointing this out.
Sony actually did win the hardware race, yet still found themselves humbled at the end of the gen and having to choose a partnership with Microsoft to follow Microsoft's initiative and vision for a cloud based future anyway.
I very much doubt that. I think we're going to see a major push on PS Now along with the launch of the PS5.
I hope they push PS Now as a Virtual console and call it PS Now & Then
Xbox doesn't want to compete head to head with PlayStation and Sony doesn't want to compete head to head with Microsoft. They usually work together instead.
The difference is, with sports, only one team can win. That is not true of video gaming.
I would argue Nintendo is the traditionalist here. Their network services are still pretty conservative compared to Sony and Microsoft. They have spent years pushing their handhelds towards a full console like experience. The Switch is just the final form of that push, opting to be a device that has mobile and console modes. I am not sure what new markets opened up because of the Switch. Maybe you could elaborate on that?