That has never been said ever by him or anyone close to him.
Sounds like tabloid bullshit.
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Michael Jackson estate attacks 'lurid' documentary
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Sounds like tabloid bullshit.
Questionable decisions? Like letting kids come to his park and have a sleep over? Sure. But what does that make the parents who sent them there?
And despite that he never did anthing criminal and never hurt those kids.
So what is even the point of that? Why is discussing the factual innocence of this man have to an asterisk? Or "...even tho hes innocent he still was weirdo amirite??".
It's disgusting.
Watch the documentary, the lad confirms as a grown man that he had a wank on the phone with Michael Jackson when he was 15.
Having seen the inside of his house I am under absolutely no illusions as to his preferences. The only question is did he act on it or was the phone thing the worst he got up to.
A documentary from someone other than Michael or anyone actually close to him?
*sigh*
And what do you mean having seen the inside of house? It's well known Michael was a big kid. He frequented SEGA and built himself rides. He didnt build that to lure kids to his house to have sex with them.
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I'm not going to get into a sex case argument about a dead person where I couldn't prove anything anyway, but I'm talking about the wanker himself confirming it on camera with Louis Theroux. He didn't think it was a problem and seemed more embarrassed than anything but he also got a payout so didn't say too much.
IiRC the story was that this kid was a minor local radio celebrity who went around interviewing famous people on a handheld recorder in the 70s. He rocked up to the Jackson's hotel room and became friends with Michael and had a reasonably long term phone 'friendship'. In the 90s the Sun published a story about it that had inaccuracies, but the bare fact of the wanking was in fact confirmed.
His house was adorned with lots and lots of half naked kids. He has a room full to the brim of extremely questionable 'coffeebooks' , portraits, etc. I am not talking about videogames and rides.
What? Calm down.
He slept in the same bed as kids and other fucked up shit, yes the parents are fucked up too. Both can be true you know. Didn't need to be criminal to be crossing boundaries and it isn't "weirdo" shit either, it's fucked.
You seem to be way too defensive over this subject or as a MJ fan it absolutely warrants discussion
I was expecting to see post like "Calm down" etc. Not surprised.
What kind of deflection is this? How about we stay on subject, and not try and determine what state you think I'm in.
The same questionable 'coffeebooks' that are still easily available at your local bookstore and Amazon because they're considered art photography books, you mean?
On-topic: I'd be far more open to this bullshit documentary if the accusers were new. But one of them was part of Sneddon's witnesses that didn't show up when the prosecutions case fell apart in the 2004 case. The other actually went into court and said Micheal never touched him. A few years ago he tried again, saying he WAS abused and he got laughed out of court due to a lack of evidence.
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I mean, back in the 90s, there was a sale at KMart and MJ only showed up because he heard that little boy's pants were "half off". If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about the guy, then you really need to start thinking clearer. The guy was a fucking monster.
Well I'm not sure how readily available erotic youngster photos are in Waterstones so I can't really pass comment on it, but yes it would appear that may have been a plausible excuse had the chap not had a history of inappropriate interactions with children.
As someone who believed the general media and fell for the whole "MJ is a creepy pedo" story, I decided to educate myself on the matter a few years ago. It's painfully obvious that he was completely innocent. I mean, his lawyer worked on clearing MJ's name years after his death.
Read statements from his session musicians, dude was knee deep in hot women constantly.
Read statements from his session musicians, dude was knee deep in hot women constantly.
Exactly.
There are real people aren't here hurting people that we must absolutely focus on. But at what point do you come to the conclusion that Justice has been served here?
How much more does Michael and now his family have to suffer over these false claims of sexual abuse?
Except that the 'history of inappropriate interactions with children' never happenend.
As for the pictures being erotic in nature: nope. Try again.
People are really bad man. The transparency of the internet is a wonderful thing but it brings out some dark shit. I'm only 35 but I know a struggle of my lifetime will be with forgiveness. I can barely give myself a break.
I always agree to what Dave Chappelle said
Did he do it, unlikely, he's a wierd dude but it's unlikely he did anything and there is no proof. In fact lots of evidence in one of the cases where the accusers family was up to no good.
Would I leave my kids alone with him 'hell no"
Did he do it, unlikely, he's a wierd dude but it's unlikely he did anything and there is no proof. In fact lots of evidence in one of the cases where the accusers family was up to no good.
Would I leave my kids alone with him 'hell no"
I will listen to the accusers before I make my judgment. I have always thought he was a creep. Its widely known that he was in possession of child porn, gave kids "Jesus Juice" and had them sleep in his bed, and also dangled his baby off that balcony.
There were so many things wrong with the accusations against him but one of the ones that stands out to me was the one in 2005, they kept getting the date wrong of the alleged assault because it was proven a few times that MJ wasn't even in the same state or country at the time.
That was the same family that had a story of attempting a hot air ballon escape from Neverland.
It looks like the accusers here are Wade Robson and James Safechuck, nothing new. Safechuck also alleged that the abuse happened at Neverland while MJ was actually on tour.
Nonsense. It's not a "hundreds or nothing" scenario.... ridiculous
Love that this forum has people who are literate on the MJ case. It's a shame what was done to MJ. I was worried the doc would be about new evidence, new claims, but nope, it's covering some of the same old discredited characters.
For those who think there is any truth to the claims in this "documentary," you should read my thread on the MJ case:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fo...about-how-michael-jackson-was-innocent.38565/
For those who think there is any truth to the claims in this "documentary," you should read my thread on the MJ case:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fo...about-how-michael-jackson-was-innocent.38565/
Good thread
Another interesting point for people unaware is that Evan Chandler, the father dentist who made his son testify against MJ in 1993, later nearly killed his son Jordan with a barbell and mace in August 2005, which happens to be the same time that the 2005 case against MJ was, which the son refused to testify at. Jordan Chandler got a permanent restraining order against him and Evan Chandler killed himself in 2009.
Jordan also had gotten legal emancipation from his parents since 1994 at the age of 14, just after the civil case and had no contact with his mother from 1994 to at least 2005.
And for the really bizarre part: Evan Chandler wrote Robin Hood Men in Tights.
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this is true. my mother would defend him to her death.
I highly recommend uncelestials thread on the matter. Good eye opener to see how greedy individuals tarnished MJ's reputation permenently.
Did you even bother to read anything about this before you posted? Hell, even just this thread? There was never any child porn. Or do you think the FBI found CHILD PORN in his possesion, and never charged him with it?
Michael Jackson and r Kelly are two different things. Like completely different
The most embarrassing thing for him that they found were Playboy magazines
Funny how the culture around here has shifted so dramatically people are immediately calling for MJ's head while knowing almost nothing on the case itself. Telling.
I aint sayin he's guilty or innocent. I dont know, but I'm not going to shoot down the possibility like I know for sure. Especially something like this at a time where a lot of this stuff is coming up.
From Carrie Fisher:
She celebrated Christmas with him and his family at his last Christmas in 2008.
She celebrated Christmas with him and his family at his last Christmas in 2008.
that's literally all it's been since day one. a bunch of predators saw a weakened man with strange habits and a lot of money and took advantage of him. As soon as the public found it easier to poke fun at him and laugh at him and casually dismiss all evidence pointing to his innocence it was over for him. his reputation was ruined for a laugh and money.
I've flipped flopped on the subject of his innocence for years. Its to the point now that I wouldnt be shocked if he touched kids and wouldnt be shocked if he didn't.
I will say hes got a better chance at being a pedophile than the dumbass claims my boss makes about him doing dark rituals and studying Crowley.
I will say hes got a better chance at being a pedophile than the dumbass claims my boss makes about him doing dark rituals and studying Crowley.
That's not a shift. It's every Michael Jackson topic on every forum.
Oh some of y'all still on the guilty train despite the facts saying otherwise time and time again??? Didn't the FBI try and get some bullshit on him after his death and still found nothing?
Even in death MJ still evades all the bullshit. It's almost like people have it out for him and cling to any little scrap of nothing to gin up false accusations or something.
This bs, that's what it is. Believe the proven innocent, not the proven liars.
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