I'll have to check it out. My favorite of his is 'give in to me' very 90s rock. I love it
From what I read this was a big part of his downfall (the trials as well). I think history would have went differently if that hadn't happened
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I'll have to check it out. My favorite of his is 'give in to me' very 90s rock. I love it
From what I read this was a big part of his downfall (the trials as well). I think history would have went differently if that hadn't happened
He will always be a pedophile that didn't die soon enough to me.
I'm aware of that.
What I'm disagreeing with you on is that I don't think all defenders are pedophiles. Bringing up that story in response to someone saying they believe he was innocent with the implication being that the poster is a pedophile is not ok.
yeah no, I can't celebrate this trash person, no matter what i think about his music, fuck him.
GAF is not this community, you can't say that guy was a mod of this community . the average poster didn't even know that until shit hit the fan, the only at blame to cover him is also exactly the one that made everyone left the site. If that happened here in Era I doubt anyone would have covered his ass like that person did.
GAF is not this community, you can't say that guy was a mod of this community . the average poster didn't even know that until shit hit the fan, the only at blame to cover him is also exactly the one that made everyone left the site. If that happened here in Era I doubt anyone would have covered his ass like that person did.
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After watching the HBO documentary and the Oprah special, I can no longer stand to listen to his music I can only think of him as a complete monster. When I think about him, the disgust overpowers any previous positive memories of his music.
His death is a positive in the sense that he can no longer harm children, however it's a great shame that true justice couldn't be served while he was alive.
His death is a positive in the sense that he can no longer harm children, however it's a great shame that true justice couldn't be served while he was alive.
Got mad love for Mike and his music. I cried when he died. Like Pac, and John Ritter all three passing made me shed a tear. Most recently Nip, had me shook to.
What's that about his hair catching fire? I remember when it happened but I didn't know it had an effect on him long-term.
This is the one with the slash guitar solo, right? Dangerous is such a great album.
Like others I have no problem separating art from artist, so I can still enjoy tracks of his that I really like, of which there are many.
This is where his addiction to painkillers/meds all started. Slippery slope from that point onwards really.
"Dirty Diana" always used to be my favorite song but "Streetwalker" may have overtaken that.
"Stranger in Moscow" and "They Don't Care About Us" are up there for me as well.
If you dont want to get side eyed like a pedophile maybe dont come onto a public message board and go to the defense of a pedophile. I personally dont fucking care if you or anyone else likes it. Even the fucking alt right have enough dignity to drop one of their idols when it comes to them being outed for awful defenses of pedophilia, and in that case he didnt even commit it.
Thats true. But we are a community that was born from that one which is why I said this community.
Yeah, I was just looking this up a few days ago and was trying to think of how long it had been and it seemed a lot longer than that for some reason. This was after watching the freedie mercury movie though
It's very dangerous to assume that anyone who would still listen to his music knowing his personal behavior is also a pedophile.
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I feel like Quincy Jones helped to moderate some of his musical urges. Like some of the riffs on Dangerous go on a while and probably could have been cut down. Black or White is a good example of the guitar part after the intro probably going on a little too long before the lyrics start.
Obviously. That doesn't make the comment less disgusting. Which is what you quoted me on.
I remember I was a Barber shop waiting for a hair cut when a patron told be about the news. At the time, I was shocked and sad of the news.
I still have his classics like Thriller, BAD and Billie Jean on my MP3 player but I'm done with him after the HBO doc.
I still have his classics like Thriller, BAD and Billie Jean on my MP3 player but I'm done with him after the HBO doc.
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And I never said anything of the sort. Theres a difference between listening to his music, and coming onto a message board, downplaying the evidence, making drive by posts and talking about what a great human being he is. For virtually anything on this board we dont tolerate discussion on people that have sordid histories that aren't even one tenth of the evil this man committed. We dont talk about Colin Moriarty here, we dont talk about Boogie or laymen gaming here (all good things that I agree dont deserve a platform). But a fucking pedophile is allowed to have threads where we continuously defend and downplay his actions and dismiss evidence is totally cool because he had catchy songs and could dance well? Its ridiculous hypocrisy
Nah and personally the effort being put out to act like anyone being suspicious of others for defending a pedophile isnt a good look for you either.
Easily the greatest performer of my lifetime and perhaps best performer there will ever be.
I remember waking up and hearing on the news he was being rushed to hospital. Then the shock when it was announced that he died.
It still didn't sink in that it really happened even though radio stations and music channels suddenly became 24/7 MJ playlists.
I remember waking up and hearing on the news he was being rushed to hospital. Then the shock when it was announced that he died.
It still didn't sink in that it really happened even though radio stations and music channels suddenly became 24/7 MJ playlists.
Understandable, and I'm sorry I took your comment out of context.
You raise valid points, I think the hard part for people to detangle is that MJ has a much, much larger footprint on our culture than the people you mentioned.
Yes but if you're anything like you'll have to stop several times to get through.
What a strange day that was. Billy Mays, Farrah Fawcett, and then Michael Jackson passed that same day. I still remember being on the interwebs that day and whenever news was breaking about MJ, the Internet kind of crashed. I remember google and AIM(lol aim) went down temporarily
Exactly! I've always thought Janet was the best Jackson. I saw her in concert last year and it was such a blast.
it never been confirmed because we don't have proof beside accusation, so in the end, you only decide if you trust him or not
Still remember where I was and everything when the news broke of his death. It's absolutely wild to remember just how ingrained he was to all sorts of pop culture.
Disney, video games, sports, comics, film...The Simpsons.
Disney, video games, sports, comics, film...The Simpsons.
I've kind of come around to this. I went on a Janet discography binge last fall and found a new appreciation for her.
I personally can't separate the art from the artist even with small things like Donald Glover being an arrogant jerk. I can't comprehend being able to do it with something like this.
Yeah, I'd agree. I wish they had reunited for invincible because there's a lot of great content there, but it's overly long and and needed more soul and funk. Quincy had a great ear for him
Grew up when the trial happened so his music has always been tainted
Even if he isn't a pedo, dude was a scumbag.
Even if he isn't a pedo, dude was a scumbag.
damn I had no idea Farrah Fawcett was dead :( My older brother had a glam shot poster of her and it was awesome
I love his music so so much. It's perfect and completely out of this world to me. it's like it syncs me with something metaphysical, and I am not a very spiritual person.
But nevertheless, its absolutely tainted now. its unfortunate but its really only his fault. Man, I even dont know if its still apropriate to play some songs at my wedding later this summer.
But nevertheless, its absolutely tainted now. its unfortunate but its really only his fault. Man, I even dont know if its still apropriate to play some songs at my wedding later this summer.
The guy messed up a lot of young boys and had a fucked up childhood himself, but you cannot deny the impact he had on the music industry.
I was eating some wings when I heard the news. I said, "That's crazy," and went back to eating my wings. They were good wings.
I still have not seen this HBO doc -- and tbh I'm not sure how much I could stomach watching four hours of accounts of child molestation -- but the turnaround on MJ this year has struck me as really strange, given that the accusations against him have been around for nearly my entire life. Maybe the doc has some damning new evidence that nobody had heard/seen before, but to me the basic underlying charge of "Michael Jackson sexually abused boys at his Neverland ranch" has been basically baked into my perception of him for decades already and it didn't strike me as anything new, so it was weird that it seemed like a lot of other people were shocked or went "ok, can't listen to his music anymore now."
As far as mental gymnastics go, "if he was gifted child pornography and kept it, well that's not a problem" really takes the cake.
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