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Metroid Dread’s $30 amiibo double pack increase players' health and missiles (1 x Energy Tank and 1 x Missile+ Tank)
- Thread starter Chairmanchuck (另一个我)
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I didn't evaluate what part of your message was important, I asked about the part I wanted to know more information about. But it's fine, you haven't really provided any insight beyond games "new games in 2002 sold at full price, so new games now... shouldn't?" so I don't expect to get anything of value from continuing on anyway.
The only thing that bugs me about the weird amiibo P2W stuff is that it makes these games unnecessarily easier, but the crowd that MOST wants that functionality is small children - aka hey kids, bug your parents for this extra toy to make the game better for you.
Just feels gross.
Just feels gross.
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I have a problem with how the Zelda Amiibo handle the QoL teleport feature, but Samus Return already did that about the difficulty and it's not back with this new game, and I doubt will do, at least for Metroid games.
No, I think its more pointing out it's a good thing since some games have had cool stuff locked being amiibo which can be tough to get
makes sense. stuff like this is the easiest way to add "amiibo features" without adding substantial thing that will make people without amiibos to feel left out
I'm going to assume that the game is balanced without this extra energy tank/missile expansion in mind, so I don't really care. This really feels like the bare minimum of "these amiibos should do something", so whatever.
See, that's fair to me if you don't like the developer or their past output. I more side eye the assertion that 2D games are low effort or of less value than other games.
90% of the time it's just a neat little cosmetic thing or bonus item for owning a figure of a character you really like. The biggest exception is Codename STEAM which locked four playable Fire Emblem characters behind their Amiibo (which were impossible to get at the time but less so later on). New Horizons locked Sanrio content behind Amiibo, and I believe there was content locked in New Leaf too. BOTW had Wolf Link locked behind an Amiibo too but I 'believe' those are the three released games with the biggest content locks behind them.
It's a stupid bonus for buying a figure. The main draw is the figure, not the content.
Do you get a figure when you buy the mtx from EA/Ubisoft (with ubisoft that can be a yes if you use that one space toys to life game they had a few years back as the sole example)
Is still content that you need to pay for, so pretty sure that is still piracy
Seems a bit weird to me people are okay with this. They get mad if the difficulty they want to play is unlocked through an amiibo, but okay if it's a difficulty level meant for someone else? It's horrible. Nintendo fans are quick enough to moan at other publishers for doing this, but Nintendo are locking stuff away behind amiibos that are way more expensive than a simple 'unlock' purchase would be for most other games.
Amiibo have always been way gross people just don't care because Nintendo
this is the equivalent of locking 50 coins in a mario game behind an amiibo. you get tons of energy tanks and missiles in the game
My take is that a figurine is better than Digital only thing. When the online or whatever gets shut down, you lose everything. With the amiibo, you have something tangible and the majority of them go up in price if you want to sell.
I guess to each their own.
I guess to each their own.
While there still is a chance that the other Metroid amiibo can offer further unlocks, the fact that their brand-spanking new amiibo amount to rather minor boosts seems to imply anything that, say, Dark Samus could do would be just as fluffy.
Nintendo locks hard mode behind an amiibo: Outrage
Nintendo locks easy mode behind an amiibo:
This is fine
As someone who sucks at 2D Metroid games, I kinda hate this. Just give me a digital deluxe edition with the upgrades and keep your overpriced toys that sell out immediately due to scalpers...
Nintendo locks easy mode behind an amiibo:
This is fine
As someone who sucks at 2D Metroid games, I kinda hate this. Just give me a digital deluxe edition with the upgrades and keep your overpriced toys that sell out immediately due to scalpers...
It's because it's Nintendo and there have been more egregious Amiibos previously. Doesn't make this any less completely stupid. Is it that hard to make it cosmetics only?
Where is the easy mode... is a heart and extra missle really going to make it go from normal to easy like *snap* ?
Not really, it's sort of the same thing as using one of those trainer programs on a PC games. Selling the modification might land you in hot water if they're feeling litigious but it's much more of a grey area than pirating a game outright.
If amiibo were collectible enough on their own, they never would've needed this functionality to begin with. It's not like Nintendo never tried random figure lines prior. The universal dlc aspect is the sole reason they ever took off
they also use it to justify them costing triple what they would if they were just toys or justdlc
I guess there should be a thread with a poll with what motivates people to buy amiibos.
But what if folks want to play the game with that cosmetic and it's tied to an amiibo that's no longer commercially available? Considering how scarce the first wave of Zelda amiibo got after everyone discovered what they did, I imagine that there would be substantially more outrage for Metroid Dread if it did mean you were missing out in being able to have classic skins for Samus
Buy this amiibo to unlock the original Samus outfit (or ZSS) * will not be sold on eshop in future. Tell me this wouldn't piss people off compared to some health and missles.
Certain perks hidden behind amiibo are annoying, for sure, like the Samus Returns one and the Skyward Sword one (which people are saying is not a big deal, but still), but I think the reason people don't give them much shit is because they see them are just figurines, the perks are a bonus, if they were straight digital $5 purchases at launch for non-cosmetic stuff it'd probably be a bigger deal for many.
Ok? Not sure what the point would be. If your thesis is that Amiibo would be what they are today if they just never did anything in games but were just figures, I think it's fair to say you're demonstrably wrong based solely on past evidence. They're like medium quality plastic statues at a price point that is significantly higher than similar tiered figurines.
So if you were looking for a shitty toy, the dlc justifies the purchase, and if you were looking for slight fomo advantages in games, the figure justifies the purchase. Either way it preys upon the fact that people are looking for excuses to buy stupid shit.
OMG how do people don't get that this is not an easy mode, it literally just a extra health and missile upgrade, stuff that can you easily get in the first 15 minutes on any Metroid game
It would be like if in Breath of the Wild you get an additional Heart Container and a bit of Stamina, does it make it "easy mode"? The answer is no, you still get destroyed by the Guardian
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In the beginning of the game this can make a huge difference for newer or less skilled players.
Wow, so you're saying with the amiibo and 20 minutes of playing the game I could have three energy containers instead of just two in total to start off with? That would be dope!
Damn, chill! lol
From my preference, I buy some amiibo because they look cool and barely use them.
Are you kidding? lol. Those are very literally easy mode inclusions for the first chunk of the game.
Those people are just shitposting
"But what if they never played a metroid game?"
Then why are they in here speaking with certainty on something they know nothing about, instead of asking questions in a non shitpost manner?
this is not gonna be a make or break thing for any player of any skill level.
yall really need to play super metroid.
The biggest obstacle is going to be the EMMI encounters, for which extra health and missiles mean nothing as they're impervious and throw you into an instant death scenario once they grab you. The regular enemies all appear to practically crap out health pickups and missile ammo as it is.
Show me where the amiibo also unlocks damage and A.I modifiers for this "easy mode"
As a new dad with very limited playtime, avoiding even a few deaths via such an upgrade could really make a difference in the long run.
Since when are those requirements for a game to be easier? Just arbitrary goalposts until we get to 'Nintendo isn't doing something shitty' I suppose.
A first time player wouldn't have a significantly easier time in super metroid with an extra energy tank and missile upgrade? Is this is a joke post?
i guess nothing is going to convince you guys that this isn't anything remotely close to an easy mode. oh well.
In this instance no, while adding something that is not available unless paying, the added bonus is so low that it does not truly offer any true advantage to outcomes. This is a case to me of a collectible first, game enhancement second.
But that's the thing
If amiibo didn't exist, the extra missile and hp tank wouldn't either. It's just a bonus for the amiibo, not balanced for the game.
Ok, regardless of the above, a couple of powerups is not a 'game mode' and suggesting that it is, is definitely 100 percent shitposting.
ResetEra: having 5 extra missiles in Metroid is the same thing as an easy mode. there's absolutely no difference between both concepts. also, it's ableist to not have those extra missiles.
Also ResetEra: tweaking the damage values... in souls games...? that would be a barbaric approach to difficulty, you philistine... you don't understand the true kino of Miyazaki's vision... it would take an entire's game worth of effort to retrofit an easy mode into the experience...
Also ResetEra: tweaking the damage values... in souls games...? that would be a barbaric approach to difficulty, you philistine... you don't understand the true kino of Miyazaki's vision... it would take an entire's game worth of effort to retrofit an easy mode into the experience...
The amiibos don't just give the bonus, they also refill health/missles once a day. Pretty sure that's the same behaviour many of the other Mario/Zelda amiibos have done too...
If anything that should make it worse for two reasons. The first is because it's much more expensive than traditional DLC. The Amiibo that gives you that enhanced fast travel functionality in SSHD costs $25. If that's a feature you really want then it comes at a crazy price. The same goes for other Amiibo's that may lock something important behind one. And the second is that they're very limited. You may not even be able to use that feature even if you're okay with paying out for an Amiibo because they sell out. So it's basically expensive and time limited DLC.