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Metro Exodus Review Thread
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Off topic but did anybody else get a new update for xbox that improves 4k gameing?i wonder what it actually does i dl it and im at work and cant check.
What does that matter and why would you want to know that? Just curious.
Borrowing from above, this is what I had it on for PC:
GTX980
Res: 2560x1440
Quality: High
Vsync: Full
Motion Blur: Low
DirectX 12
Hair Works Off
Advanced Physx: Off
Tessellation: Off
Texture FIltering: AF 16X
Shading Rate: 1.0x
GTX980
Res: 2560x1440
Quality: High
Vsync: Full
Motion Blur: Low
DirectX 12
Hair Works Off
Advanced Physx: Off
Tessellation: Off
Texture FIltering: AF 16X
Shading Rate: 1.0x
DX11 runs better. 5-15% more FPS, better frametimes (German source): https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/met...,3340482,seite3.html#directx-11-vs-directx-12
Hmm, i should try this on my 980. Been running fine per the above, but this may boost it.
Oh shit, my bad. Thought I saw an off option in the ACG review.
RTX on and FPS is cut in half. I'm starting to see a pattern here.
Cool review. He seemed to be really enjoying himself. Smiles are always a good sign.
Almost like Raytracing is an extremely expensive technique and even with dedicated hardware for it it's still extremely expensive.
It still makes Metro look way better with it on and Metro only uses it for a few effects. 10 years down the line when everything can be Raytraced stuff is gonna be mindblowing.
I wonder in what way driver updates will help. I believe that made a big difference with Battlefield.
Yeah man hes really good at the review stuff. And I agree. Smiling is a good thing :)
I don't agree about looking better part. It's certain hit or miss. For example, in this scene, RTS off looks much better, more natural and more pleasing to the eye. And that FPS difference is just mind boggling.
I don't agree about looking better part. It's certain hit or miss. For example, in this scene, RTS off looks much better, more natural and more pleasing to the eye. And that FPS difference is just mind boggling.
yea that's one scene that makes no sense, as there shouldn't be that much occlusion from just the plants. it is however the only scene that i've noticed that looks worse with rtx on.
This makes me super excited. I will buy this for sure. While I was always interested, I wouldve probably bought it just to support single player AAA games.
I don't agree about looking better part. It's certain hit or miss. For example, in this scene, RTS off looks much better, more natural and more pleasing to the eye. And that FPS difference is just mind boggling.
By definition it cannot look "more natural". You can argue the artistic merits of the scene, but the lights are placed in such a way as to approximate what RTX is doing by default. RTX is expensive, and you might prefer the look of faked lighting more, but that does not make it more realistic. However RTX/Raytracing will definitely be used more in the future, as it can drastically cut the workload of studios and gives better results on average.
Not according to Computerbase, they recommend DX12: https://www.computerbase.de/2019-02/metro-exodus-test-benchmarks/2/
They also say that raytracing is more sublte than in BFV but a signficant improvement in any scene with many lights, without it on the lighting often looks wrong and fake, especially when indoors with light shining through openings. Really hard to judge by a few screenshots and short videos I guess.
Have to disagree, OFF looks more bland and flat. But see above, in some scenes it'll matter more than others, impossible to say yet if I'll take the performance hit myself.
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Guess we will have to wait for more DX11/12 comparisons.
I thought it was impossible to love your work even more, but that Dave Mustaine reference might have sealed the deal
I was anticipating that this would be kind of the equivalent to the treatment Wolfenstein's sequel found in that reviewers in a sense gained a greater appreciation of the previous entry, after overlooking it initially, and accordingly 'embraced' the sequel with a higher overall range of scores.
Whatever the case, this franchise, especially Last Light, was criminally underappreciated and IMO drastically underscored from the beginning. Last Light is truly one of the finest FPS experiences I've had ever and I doubt there'll be anything too glaring to knock this from being a personal GOTY contender.
Whatever the case, this franchise, especially Last Light, was criminally underappreciated and IMO drastically underscored from the beginning. Last Light is truly one of the finest FPS experiences I've had ever and I doubt there'll be anything too glaring to knock this from being a personal GOTY contender.
We need to understand this gen reviewers are not complacent with games anymore. Scores are more accurate this gen.
But I was expecting a little bit more from this one. Maybe in 1 year when arrives at Steam with 66% off.
Thats an odd response. I just want to know what the game order is like, especially since we are seeing a lot of videos and i want to know if ending areas are being shown. Lots of people in here have finished it, so seems like a good place to ask.
I voted for 81. What do I win? :P
I'll probably play this eventually. I still have yet to play the first two.
There's really no science to it. It's never accurate or inaccurate, or at least it's only accurate if the reviewer was being honest about their feelings. Also the number can and very well does mean different things to different reviewers.
They're just arbitrary numbers given to make readers feel like they have some grasp of the writer's opinion, when they didn't read the review itself. Goes on the back of the box better than text. Numbers appear to have scientfiic authority.
I'll probably play this eventually. I still have yet to play the first two.
There's really no science to it. It's never accurate or inaccurate, or at least it's only accurate if the reviewer was being honest about their feelings. Also the number can and very well does mean different things to different reviewers.
They're just arbitrary numbers given to make readers feel like they have some grasp of the writer's opinion, when they didn't read the review itself. Goes on the back of the box better than text. Numbers appear to have scientfiic authority.
Requoting so you guys don't think I just upped and forgot about you ;)
Just as an upfront: I think an 8.1 is an excellent grade, the word next to the score is 'Geweldig', which roughly translates to excellent or awesome.
Which is an apt description of how I feel about the game.
However, there are still issues. As you asked me for them, I'll post some here, but don't mistake this for me being very down on the game. Again, I gave it an 81, which in my book is still an excellent score.
Most of my gripes are with the pacing and some of the gameplay elements. The crafting is too simplistic and because there are only 2 crafting elements, you are not encouraged (except on higher difficulties) to check out all the world has to offer.
General gunplay is somewhat decent, but not nearly where I would like to see it. I'm not expecting some instant point and shoot gibbage, but right now some of the guns feel a little off to me. I'm a big fan of the new crossbow however.
The general story I thought was excellent and I found the cast charming. Standing around for 20 minutes while they tell you stories is not my idea of fun however. At some point I would've rather just read it, so I can set my own pace and not have to wait for someone to finish talking. I literally just lit up a cigarette on the train sections and settled in with a drink until they were done. The content itself isnt bad as such, but it's the presentation that bugs me.
The vehicle sections (boats and car) feel kind of off and dont really add anything, except give you a way to get around quicker, while skipping exploration, which I think would be more interesting, especially with how full and vibrant the world is. It feels as though they had intended to do more with the car, but the map in which they wanted to do it got cut or smth. For instance, you bring the car with you on the train, and it's there in the end, but only for a small linear section.
The AI is rather shit on lower difficulties, and tbh it's still nothing to write home about on the higher ones. I did really enjoy the way they convey what they are doing and how aware they are of your presence through speech.
Overall, I did really enjoy my time with the game, but I can imagine someone who does not enjoy story as much, will come away with a very different impression. It very much feels like a Metro game, warts and all. I hope they make another one soon.
I didn't see my review in a quick search, so: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019...ayer-game-to-usher-in-the-pc-ray-tracing-era/
It includes a lengthy breakdown of what to expect from the game's PC version, should you own an RTX-series card:
It includes a lengthy breakdown of what to expect from the game's PC version, should you own an RTX-series card:
Good scores.
A game I will get in time.
Interesting RTX findings. I guess it will be a 1080/30 experience with it on or a 1080/60 targeted experience with it off for me.
Anyone know if it pushes CPU or GPU more with RTX off?
A game I will get in time.
Interesting RTX findings. I guess it will be a 1080/30 experience with it on or a 1080/60 targeted experience with it off for me.
Anyone know if it pushes CPU or GPU more with RTX off?
I certainly recommend it if you've played the previous games.
I am just going to off-quote the developers and say every single outdoor scene of this game looks better as a result of Ray Tracing: it is more physically accurate by far than the other solution they have. That red glow there? Yeah, that is not supposed to be there - a common problem the game's standard GI has with making objects in shadow facing side overly glow.I don't agree about looking better part. It's certain hit or miss. For example, in this scene, RTS off looks much better, more natural and more pleasing to the eye. And that FPS difference is just mind boggling.
I will cross post here, but notice how objects glow here? Yeah that is what you are seeing, a physical innacuracy -
Bonus guess round:
They look sooo similar - I only played with ultra just to prove a point when recording, but high looks basically the exact same in every scene while performing better. The technical reason is pretty neat actually and should be up in the interviews we post on friday!
So for those reviewers that have played this game to completion I have two questions.
1. How much does it support itself in the stories told in the first two games? Can anybody grab this without having played them before?
2. How satisfactory is the ending? Does it tease a sequel or does it offer good closure.
1. How much does it support itself in the stories told in the first two games? Can anybody grab this without having played them before?
2. How satisfactory is the ending? Does it tease a sequel or does it offer good closure.
Comparing youtube screengrab jpgs of a single moment to make the case that a visibly inferior version of a game is genuinely more pleasing to the eye.
Brings me back to the early days of PS4 and Xbox One back on NeoGAF. Those were the days...
cool review. thanks. seems my 2080Ti will be well served here, but I am worried about the performance I can expect on my 3440x1400 monitor. I can run the game at 1080p, but that's not what I bought the monitor for, you know?
Ok, raw footage time. Both are from the first level, so not too spoilery. RTSS shows fps and gpu usage in upper left corner.
Link #1
Res: 1080p
Quality: Ultra
Vsync: Full
Motion Blur: Normal
DirectX 12
Hair Works Off
Advanced Physx: On
Tessellation: On
Texture FIltering: AF 16X
Shading Rate: 1.0x
Link #2
Res: 1080p
Quality: Ultra
Vsync: Full
Motion Blur: Normal
DirectX 11
Hair Works Off
Advanced Physx: On
Tessellation: Off
Texture FIltering: AF 16X
Shading Rate: 1.0x
If I could run the game at ultra at 3440x1440 with a 1080 Ti, you should be fine with the 2080 Ti.
Link #1
Res: 1080p
Quality: Ultra
Vsync: Full
Motion Blur: Normal
DirectX 12
Hair Works Off
Advanced Physx: On
Tessellation: On
Texture FIltering: AF 16X
Shading Rate: 1.0x
Link #2
Res: 1080p
Quality: Ultra
Vsync: Full
Motion Blur: Normal
DirectX 11
Hair Works Off
Advanced Physx: On
Tessellation: Off
Texture FIltering: AF 16X
Shading Rate: 1.0x
If I could run the game at ultra at 3440x1440 with a 1080 Ti, you should be fine with the 2080 Ti.
I think you should be okay playing without the first two, but there are references to stuff that happened in those games.
Overall though it's a pretty contained story and you'll be able to follow just about everything that happens. There are also written bios available in Artyom's journal.
The ending is pretty nicely rounded, but leaves room for more. There is a slight tease we might see more, but nothing too major.
