I think that's the issue when you use DLSS and HDR together. I'll have to test it again as soon as it comes out on Steam. I don't remember correctly as I played it on PC game pass and don't have a subscription anymore.
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Metro Exodus PC performance thread
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I remember the DLSS + HDR issue, but with dlss on and off I get the same results. I'll do some more tests later.
EDIT: it seems the blown out white problems disappears when DLSS is off. I tried both Epic and WS versions, same results.
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I finished the game way before it was fixed.
I remember it DLSS + HDR was completely broken, but I have no idea how and when it was fixed.
What I know is that I launched the game yesterday and while DLSS is hugely improved, while the DLSS + HDR combo is nowhere near as bad as it was before, there still are some issues (at least here).
EDIT: I found my own post with pictures. It's nowhere near as bad as it was before. HDR now is slight overly brighter and with some blown out whites. I didn't do much testing, but that's what I immediately noticed.
Metro Exodus PC performance thread
For me it is, DX12 ran like complete garbage even at 1080p, so I couldn't imagine 1440p. I switched to DX11 and now it runs beautifully at 1080p and pretty good at 1440p on High settings.
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I just saw EvilBoris video, and he mentioned gamma problems that can be exposed (not fixed) using the photo mode
Metro Exodus HDR Analysis + Settings Tips
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So I started photo mode and guess what, the image is overly exposed (with the 2080ti and DLSS + HDR. Vega56 HDR is fine). 2 clicks to the left, all is fine. Too bad nothing can be done in real time.
It will go up tomorrow 9am pt time I believe from their Twitter account. The store on epic is preventing me from buying the season pass because I bought previous dlc separately. Let's hope there is a stand alone version.
I started the game in safe mode, and that apparently fixed the problem for me. I lowered the ingame gamma a notch, no more blown out whites (didn't work before).
I didn't properly tested it, but I hope everything is fine now.
Guess I can buy the Expansion Pass now, I am waiting for Sam's Story impression/reviews.
I didn't properly tested it, but I hope everything is fine now.
Guess I can buy the Expansion Pass now, I am waiting for Sam's Story impression/reviews.
Yeah, did the same on Steam.
There has to be a stand alone version, they sold the first part separately after all. EU unlock time is apparently around 5 or 6 pm, so in 7-8h.
Maybe it will arrive once it unlocks? We'll see.
Holy F* at the CPU thread utilization when looking into the distance. It's using 22 threads or so.
(4K + DLSS btw, maxed out)
It's running fine, so far. (EU)
(4K + DLSS btw, maxed out)
It's running fine, so far. (EU)
50 on ultra. Low cpu utilization, GPU in 90-95% range.
That part is really open, hoping that the game works better later.
Running in dx12 with HDR.
Game does look really good.
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The most recent patch has totally messed up HDR. Now Everything is grey and washed out on my oled and I have to decrease brightness from 50 to 40(!) to get the nice inky blacks the game had before. I just cannot play the new DLC under these conditions. Doesnt look like they have fixed HDR when using DLSS either, as you can no longer see the sun when enabling it. Using a 2080 ti on a C9 oled.
I think the last patch completely screwed something again, I'm getting black crush and gamma issues. This game is an absolute shit show technically, it's ridiculous.
It'd be great if, now that the Switch port of Redux is out, they turn their attention back to this and fix HDR and update to the latest version of DLSS.
I swear there's something wrong with the textures in this DLC. I remember the base game's texture quality being pretty solid (though up close thins definitely looks a bit grungy). But so much stuff in the DLC looks muddy and there's some noticeable texture pop at times, I see it most often on the fallen logs in the water.
Yeah after one of the last patches HDR is totally messed up for me. Washed out colors and grey instead of black. Also changing the resolution in-game gives me different HDR results, like crushed blacks and really saturated colors or different levels of washed out colors. It's like a gamble.
There's some spotty textures in the base game too but it feels like they've dropped the ball again with this expansion when comes to polish and bugs.
Yep the whole thing just performs significantly worse than the base game but the visuals don't warrant the drop. Feels like an optimisation issue and a rushed product to be honest.
Perfomance in the base game and Two Colonels is actually fine even with RTX on. It's terrible in Sam's Story though feels like its back to the state of the game on day 1 before any patches.
Maybe it's just my monitor but I can't see shit in the RTX on picture, everything's too dark
Yeah I played the game when it was new and back then the RTX performance was pretty inconsistent (RTX 2080@1440p). Some levels were fine but then the forest level came up and I was getting drops under 40 fps regularly. And DLSS looked really poor back then, some effects were pixelated as fuck.
The Two Colonels was better but i think my graphics settings were reset and I probably pushed too hard.
It is not a problem I think at all with the game coding, rather the content. After the game launched we covered how those areas with alpha run decidedly heavier than the rest of the game, by quite a lot actually. It is normal to expect as alpha testing and the over draw even without rt is much heavier. Sams Story is a Ton of trees, foliage and a lot of objects.
It runs pretty much just like the Taiga Level
I thought that this dlc looked a bit better than the base game.
Is the new expansion more CPU dependant? Any new RTX techniques this time? I'm on a 4.4ghz 6600k, 2070 Super, 16Gb RAM and a NvME SSD and never dropped a frame at 1080p60fps with full RTX/Ultra/DLSS on including Taiga. I'm using the exact same settings in Sam's Story and I'm tanking to low 50s pretty constantly even when the areas aren't that open.
I'm also getting crazy black crush in SDR that never happened in the base game.
CPU wise I noticed that it is indeed heavier than most areas of the base game - first overlook in was in the lower 50s and my gpu was under utilised and downclocking a tiny bit. All on an 3900x.
I think you are seeing CPU Limits.
We will probably use that area in CPU benches going forward.
devs will probably have to be more mindful when making games with GI. scenes where they don't intend to have flashlights dude to (unrealistic) ambient lighting definitely will need them
Just tested the game on xbox and the black levels are ok there. So the problem seems to be pc specific. I really hope they fix it soon so I can play the dlc on pc. The game looks awful in this condition. Really sad as the HDR wqs incredible before
edit: no the black levels are not correct on Xbox either.
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I just bought the game again on Steam and HDR is very washed out even with DLSS turned off. I do not remember HDR looking this bad, apparently it was broken after a patch?
CPU wise I noticed that it is indeed heavier than most areas of the base game - first overlook in was in the lower 50s and my gpu was under utilised and downclocking a tiny bit. All on an 3900x.
I think you are seeing CPU Limits.
We will probably use that area in CPU benches going forward.
55fps on a 3900x? Geez.
According to whatever evidence we have, game doesn't like Ryzens very much. Anyone with a 9900K(ish) willing to show their result for the same scene?
yes one of the latest patches has totally broken HDR. It has never been this bad. It is basically impossible to get correct black levels now without adjusting the TVs brightness setting (and this is true for both DLSS on and off). It is really sad as the HDR looked incredible before
Yeah, it's been my experience as well. Performance is roughly around the same level as Taiga with RTX and DLSS on. I just decided to cap at 30fps. It's not like exodus is a fast twitch shooter so it's okay. I have noticed some odd texture loading issues now and again though but they were also present in the main game. One sign, in particular, appeared incredibly low res until I took a side step to the left and it popped into high res.
Good lord does the Steam version run way way better than the GamePass version. Already worth the money in that respect.
How's that even possible? Don't the devs update the MS Store version?
That's one thing (among many) I dislike about that storefront: it's super hard to keep track of existing and downloaded updates.
Out of scope probably. Someone needs to care about this enough to pay for the update.
Honestly, it legit feels like they threw Metro onto the MS Store and then just left it like that. The thing is so borked. For me to play it, I have to crash it first. Every single fucking time. And then I can run it normally, but it runs like crap, or I can put it in safe mode and then it runs better but looks no where near as good.