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Metal fans of Era, meet Jinjer

Calderc

Calderc

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Oct 25, 2017
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You may have already heard of them due to them blowing the fuck up lately largely in part due to the semi-viral song Pisces.

First heard of them around the start of the year and haven't stopped listening. I absolutely fucking love them. In the djenty metalcore realm, but always with something extra, be it slightly proggy, poppy or straight up fucking reggae (and seamlessly pulled off). Incredibly musical with an awesome, and very inventive, bassist, and an INCREDIBLE frontwoman in Tatiana. Holy shit is this woman talented. Check 'em out. Their new album Macro is just out!



 
Manu

Manu

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Oct 27, 2017
17,150
Buenos Aires, Argentina
I really like Jinjer. I wouldn't call them one of my favorite bands or anything but they have some killer stuff and Tatiana is undeniably a beast.

I saw them live last year too and they were great. They're coming back on March. I need to listen to the new album!
 
Mixen

Mixen

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Oct 28, 2017
207
I think Tatiana is a great frontwoman. Her growls are good and her clean vocals are ok.

But... I think Jinjer as a band is way overrated. Their music is boring and generic and they are not very good song writers. Seems like they just got alot of hype because they have a woman who growls. Nothing else is very special. Saw them live and the show was really dissapointing too. I hope their new album is an improvenment because I think they have potential. I liked "Teacher teacher" but not the other song I've heard.
 
obin_gam

obin_gam

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sollefteå, Sweden
Mixen said:
I think Tatiana is a great frontwoman. Her growls are good and her clean vocals are ok.

But... I think Jinjer as a band is way overrated. Their music is boring and generic and they are not very good song writers. Seems like they just got alot of hype because they have a woman who growls. Nothing else is very special. Saw them live and the show was really dissapointing too. I hope their new album is an improvenment because I think they have potential. I liked "Teacher teacher" but not the other song I've heard.
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So they are a bad version of Arch Enemy?
 
Dolobill

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think they do anything remotely interesting instrumentally. It's a typical mix of Nu/Djent/Deathcore (pretty much all of the subgenres I dislike) riffs with some out-of-genre moments to try to sound different.
 
Galkinator

Galkinator

Chicken Chaser
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Oct 27, 2017
8,953
Haven't had a new metalcore band in my playlist in a couple of years, will try them!
 
Mixen

Mixen

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Oct 28, 2017
207
obin_gam said:
So they are a bad version of Arch Enemy?
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Yea kind of. When I was a teenager (like 20 years ago),I thought Arch enemy was the coolest thing. I guess that's why I don't think Jinjer is anything special now. And Arch enemy was a pretty mediocre band then and has only gotten worse since.
 
Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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Thread title is a blatant lie.

Also, I want those minutes of my life back.

Dolobill said:
I don't think they do anything remotely interesting instrumentally. It's a typical mix of Nu/Djent/Deathcore (pretty much all of the subgenres I dislike) riffs with some out-of-genre moments to try to sound different.
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Yeah I don't even understand how that song would go "viral".
 
Zemst

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Oct 27, 2017
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Not the biggest fan of clean vocals in metal but this was pretty good! Scrolled down to read the comments and one of them was vocal range from demon to angel and boy that comment couldn't be truer. Thanks for the rec OP.
 
RDreamer

RDreamer

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Oct 25, 2017
14,106
Honestly outside of a few tracks (Pisces is really fucking great) they're not terribly memorable. Songwriting is overall pretty boring.
 
Speely

Speely

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,996
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my favourite track. really like jinjer but man, the reggae-tinged 'judgement (& punishment)' is bad.

looking forward to giving their new album a listen though.
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Yeah I bounce off their weird reggae wtf stuff as well. I like them most when Tatiana finds ways to match her harsh vocals with interesting vocal melodies. She has a knack for putting a bit of jazz and blues into her delivery that I think is interesting for their style while they are just being a progressive metal band, but when they go full "fusion," it takes me out of it.
 
rm082e

rm082e

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Dec 16, 2017
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They turned up on my YT recommendations about a year ago. I picked up their albums to support them. I really like what they're doing.

Thanks to this thread, I see they have a new album out. Time to give it a listen. :)
 
CaptainTrips

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Nov 20, 2017
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Dolobill said:
I don't think they do anything remotely interesting instrumentally. It's a typical mix of Nu/Djent/Deathcore (pretty much all of the subgenres I dislike) riffs with some out-of-genre moments to try to sound different.
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Sorry OP, but I'm going with this.

If this topic is about female fronted metal bands, Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult's new album has been one of my favourite releases this year.
 
NoRéN

NoRéN

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Oct 26, 2017
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Dolobill said:
I don't think they do anything remotely interesting instrumentally. It's a typical mix of Nu/Djent/Deathcore (pretty much all of the subgenres I dislike) riffs with some out-of-genre moments to try to sound different.
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Bro, this shit is deep. Instrumental means talent even though it gets aggressive too. Metal has so many sub genres.

/s
 
Soapbox Killer

Soapbox Killer

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Oct 28, 2017
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Help me out, this is not what I think of when I hear "Metal". Forgive me cause I'm old and I grew up on Hip-Hop and Classic rock. That "yelling from the bottom of the throat" (I don't know what you call it, but you know what I mean right) I thought that was a different genre?


When I Think of Metal, I think of The Transformers:1986 Soundtrack
 
Cheshire_Buddha

Cheshire_Buddha

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Oct 27, 2017
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Great musicians who are just okay songwriters. The bassist in particular is really, really good at what he does and as a bassist I'm always jealous watching his work in Pisces, same goes for the singer. I just wished I liked a lot more of their music outside of Pisces.

That being said, Pisces is a fucking banger of a song and one of my favorite metal songs in the past decade, so yeah.
 
EloKa

EloKa

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Oct 25, 2017
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Think I learned about Jinjer first because of the famous vocal fry register of their singer. Cool band.
If you have any interest in (metal) singing techniques then you absolutely heard the name Tetjana Schmajljuk at some point.
 
RDreamer

RDreamer

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Oct 25, 2017
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If you want another female fronted metal core influenced band that should be heard by more people, there's Rolo Tomassi:




Listen to those two in order. They're technically two songs but to me it's one. The whole album has a ridiculously great flow and it's hard to pick a singular song to show because it's all one.

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Speely

Speely

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,996
RDreamer said:
If you want better female fronted metal, there's Rolo Tomassi:




Listen to those two in order. They're technically two songs but to me it's one. The whole album has a ridiculously great flow and it's hard to pick a singular song to show because it's all one.
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This is some bullshit. Rolo Tomassi is my favorite metal band, period. TWDaLWBI is a masterpiece.

Why reduce this convo to a weird flex about "female-fronted" bands? Bands are bands. Jinjer can be good even though Rolo Tomassi exists, and calling one worse than the other just because they are both woman-fronted is really not cool.
 
RDreamer

RDreamer

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Oct 25, 2017
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Speely said:
This is some bullshit. Rolo Tomassi is my favorite metal band, period. TWDaLWBI is a masterpiece.

Why reduce this convo to a weird flex about "female-fronted" bands? Bands are bands. Jinjer can be good even though Rolo Tomassi exists, and calling one worse than the other just because they are both woman-fronted is really not cool.
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Jinjer can be good even though Rolo Tomassi exists. They're not, though.
 
RDreamer

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Speely said:
Oh ok. There are things I don't like, too. I try not to define them by the genders of the artists involved because that's insulting to both (in this instance) Eva and Tatiana.
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I stated my piece on Jinjer earlier. They have talent but the songwriting is boring. Pisces is fucking great, but other than that they don't offer a lot.

And sure they shouldn't be defined by gender but metal isn't exactly bustling with frontwomen, especially screaming/growling. So it catches the attention of people and that is part of why Jinjer went viral.

In any case I posted Rolo Tomassi not just because of the gender but that and they're both metal core influenced bands. Not gonna trot out Myrkur or something here because she wouldn't quite fit.
 
Speely

Speely

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Oct 25, 2017
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RDreamer said:
I stated my piece on Jinjer earlier. They have talent but the songwriting is boring. Pisces is fucking great, but other than that they don't offer a lot.

And sure they shouldn't be defined by gender but metal isn't exactly bustling with frontwomen, especially screaming/growling. So it catches the attention of people and that is part of why Jinjer went viral.

In any case I posted Rolo Tomassi not just because of the gender but that and they're both metal core influenced bands. Not gonna trot out Myrkur or something here because she wouldn't quite fit.
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That's fair. I enjoy Myrkur as well, and agree that she doesn't fit. I do contend that you lead with "female fronted," and I was willing to jump on that because I think comparing bands to bands via style/genre is healthier and more fair to the women involved as opposed to talking about them as "female-fronted" bands.

And related to that: modern Rolo Tomassi is fathoms apart from Jinjer, stylistically.
 
RDreamer

RDreamer

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Oct 25, 2017
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Speely said:
That's fair. I enjoy Myrkur as well, and agree that she doesn't fit. I do contend that you lead with "female fronted," and I was willing to jump on that because I think comparing bands to bands via style/genre is healthier and more fair to the women involved as opposed to talking about them as "female-fronted" bands.
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Part of me agrees, but part of me acknowledges the reality of the genre and the metal world as a whole. There should be more female fronted metal bands in totality. The metal world too male dominated and largely white male dominated, too.
 
Speely

Speely

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Oct 25, 2017
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RDreamer said:
Part of me agrees, but part of me acknowledges the reality of the genre and the metal world as a whole. There should be more female fronted metal bands in totality. The metal world too male dominated and largely white male dominated, too.
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We are heading toward the same place, then! This is just the kind of discourse folks have when the means potentially compromise the end.

I am 100% behind supporting more strong, unapologetic women in metal, which is a famously misogynistic genre. I guess we just hit a hiccup when thinking about this as a kind of subgenre unto itself vs appreciating women in metal, period, regardless of genre.

Thanks for engaging in this convo in good faith. <3
 
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