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Media Create Sales: Week 52, 2019 (Dec 23 - Dec 29)

Dwebble

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again- a lot of what Game Freak and TPCi are criticised for in places like this is looked at with envious and appreciative eyes by the rest of the industry.

The ability to sell enormous amounts of software while maintaining a conservative scope and team size is absolutely something to be praised from a cold-blooded business sense, regardless of what you think of the games.
 
silpheed-mcd

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Chris1964 said:
Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2019 (Dec 23 - Dec 29)

01./01. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980) - 243.476 / 2.988.134 <80-100%> (-16%)
02./02. [NSW] Luigi's Mansion 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.10.31} (¥5.980) - 59.349 / 505.998 <60-80%> (-25%)
03./03. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980) - 52.521 / 495.639 <80-100%> (-8%)
04./05. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 40.905 / 1.145.939 <80-100%> (-2%)
05./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 40.883 / 2.659.009 <80-100%> (+8%)
06./04. [NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 <SPT> (Sega) {2019.11.01} (¥5.990) - 40.866 / 195.128 <60-80%> (-19%)
07./09. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 35.385 / 3.453.052 <80-100%> (+4%)
08./00. [NSW] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.12.27} (¥3.480) - 34.696 / NEW <20-40%>
09./10. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 34.649 / 1.263.710 <80-100%> (+8%)
10./06. [NSW] Fishing Spirits: Nintendo Switch Version <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.07.25} (¥5.700) - 33.623 / 336.995 <80-100%> (-13%)
11./08. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.06.28} (¥5.980) - 26.402 / 800.504 <80-100%> (-23%)
12./12. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 21.094 / 3.252.760 <80-100%> (+7%)
13./11. [NSW] Disney Tsum Tsum Festival # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.10.10} (¥6.100) - 17.473 / 125.498 <60-80%> (-16%)
14./14. [NSW] Yo-kai Watch 4++ <RPG> (Level 5) {2019.12.05} (¥6.480) - 12.331 / 46.896 <60-80%> (-15%)
15./17. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U \ New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980) - 12.152 / 747.589 <80-100%> (+2%)
16./16. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 11.170 / 1.481.349 <80-100%> (-8%)
17./18. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.07.19} (¥6.100) - 10.738 / 420.582 <80-100%> (-7%)
18./20. [NSW] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball <SPT> (Konami) {2019.06.27} (¥6.980) - 8.375 / 210.259 <80-100%> (-13%)
19./21. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} (¥5.980) - 7.632 / 2.047.546 <80-100%> (-21%)
20./13. [PS4] Warriors Orochi 4: Ultimate <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2019.12.19} (¥7.800) - 7.382 / 25.768 <40-60%> (-60%)
21./15. [PS4] New Sakura Wars # <ACT> (Sega) {2019.12.12} (¥8.800) - 7.380 / 161.288 <80-100%> (-45%)
22./26. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age - Definitive Edition # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.09.27} (¥7.980) - 7.273 / 463.699 <80-100%> (+5%)
23./22. [NSW] Fortnite: Darkfire Bundle <ACT> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2019.11.07} (¥3.000) - 6.179 / 41.089 <80-100%> (-27%)
24./29. [NSW] FIFA 20 <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2019.09.27} (¥5.093) - 5.838 / 43.956 <60-80%> (-6%)
25./27. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies <ACT> (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} (¥5.980) - 5.835 / 783.874 <80-100%> (-12%)
26./24. [NSW] Eiga Sumikko Gurashi: Tobidasu Ehon to Himitsu no Ko - Game de Asobou! Ehon no Sekai <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2019.11.07} (¥4.800) - 5.697 / 32.049 <60-80%> (-32%)
27./30. [NSW] Olympic Games Tokyo 2020: The Official Video Game <SPT> (Sega) {2019.07.24} (¥4.990) - 5.670 / 81.491 <80-100%> (-8%)
28./28. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne Master Edition <Monster Hunter: World \ Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne> # <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.09.06} (¥6.990) - 5.560 / 417.462 <80-100%> (-12%)
29./00. [PS4] Death Stranding # <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2019.11.08} (¥6.900) - 5.231 / 262.827 <80-100%> (+27%)
30./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2019.09.20} (¥5.980) - 5.208 / 250.947 <80-100%>

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PS4 - 4
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TOP 19 NSW, impressive.
 
Andri

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rainbowjet said:
Yes. Read the credits.



It's 2:30pm where I live. I'm not insane. I'm not unbalanced, I'm not suffering from sleep deprivation. These weren't good games. They were ugly, slow, poorly animated, poorly told, ran poorly, and made it difficult to play with friends. They sold fantastically, in spite of bad decisions, bad engineering, bad writing, low ambition, and mismanagement. I don't have a stake in this. I'm trying to avoid doing work at an office job, same as anyone else on this forum. I'm stating my opinion and offering analysis. There is no reasonable person who can compare these games to comparable selling Switch titles and not see obvious, clear deficiencies in presentation, performance, and quality. It is uncommon for a game this below par to achieve these sales. Pokemon is a powerful brand, and TPCI is well run. I would argue, based on their output, that GameFreak is delivering increasingly poor games with no credible excuse for their quality.

They didn't live up to the previous entries. Their sales are out of alignment with the quality, polish, and ambition that are normally rewarded in the market. It is extremely anomalous. It's disappointing to me, because I hate mobile games, and the clear desire of TPCI to be a licensing company for a mostly mobile game-oriented property, with subscriptions and a high value cross-media operation makes good business sense, but it disappoints me as a person who played these games a lot as I grew up. Markets don't always reward things that align with your values though. I don't know why you think that calling these games low quality implies mental instability.

Pokemon Sword and Shield got positive reviews by games journalists, who are all but uniformly industry cheerleaders with the critical sense of a slug. Call of Duty gets 9s too, and so does FIFA. Most major franchises are essentially untouchable by game reviewers, because no publication will stake their reputation on trying to go against the grain. They put up the review that's not going to piss off publishers. Being paid to give your opinion only makes your opinion more visible, it means very little about the opinion itself, except maybe that it's for sale.

It got amazing sales in a games market dominated by skinner boxes and financial self-abuse. A critical opinion isn't about what other people think and do.

I don't know how anyone could construe my arguments as having a claim at objectivity. Honestly, it's an airing of grievances. Disliking something doesn't mean you're disinvited from talking about it. I gave that game at least a dozen hours and 60 dollars. It was sloppy, and it was made with cynicism and contempt.
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Nice to know that all reviewers you dont agree with are just paid shills.

Cant be that People actually like the biggest gaming franchises on the market, no way that could happen.

And you got any proof that "their opinion are for sale" ?
Because im pretty sure that kind of rethoric isnt allowed here.
 
Fularu

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Sandfox said:
Dude claimed that popular games only get good reviews because the reviewers are idiot fanboys afraid to speak out because money you're saying it's "real talk"?

Kojima's check to IGN must've not cleared.
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Pokémon Sw/Sh detractors will go to any length to justify their position.

Calling those games unambitious, sloppy and made with contempt is hilariously sad
 
MegaXZero

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Sandfox said:
Dude claimed that popular games only get good reviews because the reviewers are idiot fanboys afraid to speak out because money you're saying it's "real talk"?

Kojima's check to IGN must've not cleared.
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Chances are they saw it was a negative opinion of Pokemon and stopped reading.
 
Lite_Agent

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From the Nintendo France sales thread:

Autre performance inattendue, celle du jeu d'exercice sportif Ring Fit Aventure, 22e meilleure vente de l'année. «Nous sommes en rupture de stock après avoir écoulé 120 000 exemplaires. Je regrette que nous n'ayons pas commandé 10 à 15% de pièces en plus pour répondre à la demande», indique Philippe Lavoué. Ce jeu vidéo est disponible chez Décathlon, une première pour l'enseigne d'articles de sport. «Nous referons de la publicité télé sur Ring Fit Adventure en février, quand les points de vente auront été réapprovisionnés. Nous espérons qu'il continuera à se vendre sur la durée».
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Ring Fit Adventure sold 120k in France, shortages (estimated 10% - 15% more units would have been enough to meet demand). They'll start advertising the game on TV again in February, once new shipments are out.

Oh, and they're apparently selling them in a big sports stores chain, which I find rather amusing but also quite clever when you think about it.


 
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Pokémon

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Weird they haven't advertised Ring Fit in France yet. In Germany there are Ring Fit ads on TV. Unless they mean to advertise it more?
 
Andri

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Lite_Agent said:
Oh, and they're apparently selling them in a big sports stores chain, which I find rather amusing but also quite clever when you think about it.
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Thats funny.
I used to go there back when i lived near the french border.
I have a Decathlon near where i live in Switzerland though, gonna go check sometime if they have Ring Fit too.
 
Lite_Agent

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pld said:
Weird they haven't advertised Ring Fit in France yet. In Germany there are Ring Fit ads on TV. Unless they mean to advertise it more?
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I did an oopsie there, forgot a key word: again. They basically stopped advertising atm because of shortages, will resume once stores have stock again. Makes sense, no point paying to advertise something people can't buy (there's not even a digital option via My Nintendo Store).
 
PillFencer

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Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

United Kingdom (Retail UKIE/GfK)
2017 - 341.531
2018 - 458.675
2019 - 465.062

Japan (Retail Famitsu / Shipped + Digital Nintendo)
2017 - 1.103.744 / 1.380.000
2018 - 926.553 / 1.010.000
2019 - 628.712 / > 520.000 (Q4 missing)

France (Retail SELL)
2017 - 501.500
2018 - 542.392
2019 - 502.000

Global (Shipped + Digital Nintendo)
2017 - 7.330.000
2018 - 7.690.000
2019 - > 3.990.000 (Q4 missing)
 
KillerMan91

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Celine said:
Consoles like Sega SG-1000 and Epoch Super Cassette Vision/Cassette Vision existed when the Famicom was released back in 1983.
However wouldn't surprise me if Famicom had > 90% market share in 1985 (looking at the Famicom's shipment data and having a rough idea what other consoles might have sold).
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Oh. Well I stand corrected. Thanks for the info.

skittzo0413 said:
Still, it's impressive that they achieved a better market share than even during the Wii/DS days. Though I guess that's more because of the level of the competition
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I mean yeah. In 2007 Nintendo sold almost 11 million units of hardware in Japan and yet didn't have as high marketshare as 2019 (when they sold under 5 million units of hw).
 
Andri

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zakatana said:
Yeah. I'm not interested in having this conversation, with you or anyone else. I just wanted to voice my support to this member, who in my opinion was right. Mostly, totally, those are petty details that only people who spend too much time on this forum have time for.
I just agree with him. Most of you disagree. That's ok. Let's move on.
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Is he one of your alts ?
 
eonden

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Fularu said:
Pokémon Sw/Sh detractors will go to any length to justify their position.

Calling those games unambitious, sloppy and made with contempt is hilariously sad
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Kinda sad because SnS is probably the most ambitious Pokemon in a while with the open area and online functionality (what most people were saying they wanted but didnt expect to get). They didnt really nail the thing and I think they tried way too many things at once that ended up being undercooked, but it is a better jump than XY was (except for GTS and Dex).
 
DrWong

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Love seeing pkmn rage turned into long clown analytic theories. Then there"s reality.

By the way Splatoon 2 is +7% this week. Did NSO become free?
 
Luke88

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Lite_Agent said:
From the Nintendo France sales thread:



Ring Fit Adventure sold 120k in France, shortages (estimated 10% - 15% more units would have been enough to meet demand). They'll start advertising the game on TV again in February, once new shipments are out.

Oh, and they're apparently selling them in a big sports stores chain, which I find rather amusing but also quite clever when you think about it.


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Haha! I never thought about it, It's been a while since I last went to Decathlon, I wonder if they have it here too...
 
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Mbolibombo

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PillFencer said:
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

United Kingdom (Retail UKIE/GfK)
2017 - 341.531
2018 - 458.675
2019 - 465.062

Japan (Retail Famitsu / Shipped + Digital Nintendo)
2017 - 1.103.744 / 1.380.000
2018 - 926.553 / 1.010.000
2019 - 628.712 / > 520.000 (Q4 missing)

France (Retail SELL)
2017 - 501.500
2018 - 542.392
2019 - 502.000

Global (Shipped + Digital Nintendo)
2017 - 7.330.000
2018 - 7.690.000
2019 - > 3.990.000 (Q4 missing)
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I think there's a real chance MK8 DX will once again top it's previous year.
Last holiday quarter it shipped 3310K. And it looks like the bundled version of MK8 was even more widespread this year compared to last.
 

Pokémon

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Kouriozan said:
There was constant ads about it on Gulli, the free kid/family TV channel basically.
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Yeah Lite_Agent later clarified that they missed a word which now makes more sense. It would have been weird to have Ring Fit ads in Germany but not in France.

Lite_Agent said:
I did an oopsie there, forgot a key word: again. They basically stopped advertising atm because of shortages, will resume once stores have stock again. Makes sense, no point paying to advertise something people can't buy (there's not even a digital option via My Nintendo Store).
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Tialo

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Which game will become the best selling Switch Title in the end in Japan? What do you think?

I think it will be a hard race between Smash and Animal Crossing.
 
jman2050

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rainbowjet said:
Yes. Read the credits.



It's 2:30pm where I live. I'm not insane. I'm not unbalanced, I'm not suffering from sleep deprivation. These weren't good games. They were ugly, slow, poorly animated, poorly told, ran poorly, and made it difficult to play with friends. They sold fantastically, in spite of bad decisions, bad engineering, bad writing, low ambition, and mismanagement. I don't have a stake in this. I'm trying to avoid doing work at an office job, same as anyone else on this forum. I'm stating my opinion and offering analysis. There is no reasonable person who can compare these games to comparable selling Switch titles and not see obvious, clear deficiencies in presentation, performance, and quality. It is uncommon for a game this below par to achieve these sales. Pokemon is a powerful brand, and TPCI is well run. I would argue, based on their output, that GameFreak is delivering increasingly poor games with no credible excuse for their quality.

They didn't live up to the previous entries. Their sales are out of alignment with the quality, polish, and ambition that are normally rewarded in the market. It is extremely anomalous. It's disappointing to me, because I hate mobile games, and the clear desire of TPCI to be a licensing company for a mostly mobile game-oriented property, with subscriptions and a high value cross-media operation makes good business sense, but it disappoints me as a person who played these games a lot as I grew up. Markets don't always reward things that align with your values though. I don't know why you think that calling these games low quality implies mental instability.

Pokemon Sword and Shield got positive reviews by games journalists, who are all but uniformly industry cheerleaders with the critical sense of a slug. Call of Duty gets 9s too, and so does FIFA. Most major franchises are essentially untouchable by game reviewers, because no publication will stake their reputation on trying to go against the grain. They put up the review that's not going to piss off publishers. Being paid to give your opinion only makes your opinion more visible, it means very little about the opinion itself, except maybe that it's for sale.

It got amazing sales in a games market dominated by skinner boxes and financial self-abuse. A critical opinion isn't about what other people think and do.

I don't know how anyone could construe my arguments as having a claim at objectivity. Honestly, it's an airing of grievances. Disliking something doesn't mean you're disinvited from talking about it. I gave that game at least a dozen hours and 60 dollars. It was sloppy, and it was made with cynicism and contempt.
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This is going to be the new "Square just shot themselves in the foot" I bet.
 
DrWong

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Oregano said:
According to this thread Japan might not be the only country where Nintendo First Party has 50% marketshare.

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Arynio

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eonden said:
Kinda sad because SnS is probably the most ambitious Pokemon in a while with the open area and online functionality (what most people were saying they wanted but didnt expect to get). They didnt really nail the thing and I think they tried way too many things at once that ended up being undercooked, but it is a better jump than XY was (except for GTS and Dex).
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I don't know about that. XY introduced 3D models for more than 700 creatures (+ alternate forms), the first ~3D world, advanced online functionalities in the form of PSS, trainer customisation, new battle modes (triple and rotation) as well as new battle mechanics (but this is true for every generation)... As flawed as they were, I think they introduced way more novelties than the (also flawed) current generation.
 
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