It's going to be a huge loss.
Hopefully Chris will setup shop elsewhere.
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Hopefully Chris will setup shop elsewhere.
Truly a mod we can trust!
"Don't worry guys........I got this.."
Mods don't act alone apparently:
based on previous messaging it seems at least one mod had oversight. At the least, it seems due diligence wasn't done.
I want to preface this by saying I know I'm not a Media Create regular. I don't believe I've ever even previously posted in one of these sales threads, since I'm relatively uninterested in sales data. However, as it is of a direct relevance to the present situation with Chris, I feel I should at least offer up something that suggests even further that Chris's ban was unwarranted.
These posts are from the Era-affiliated "BiohazardERA" (Resident Evil) Discord server, which I've been in for awhile. The official stance from a moderator of both the server, and site (cvxfreak) is that the server is literally an extension of Era, and thus, I feel it's fair game to post anything from it that would be pertinent to the present situation:
The snarky post that Chris was banned for occurred on September 19, at 9:14 AM PDT. This was after cvxfreak had already made some bad faith posts in the BiohazardERA server, mocking the Media Create regulars and community, and acting proud for "shutting Chris up":
As can be seen, this post was made at on September 19, at 2:41 AM PDT, which... predates Chris's snarky post, obviously. How is it that cvxfreak is allowed to publicly (or privately, if you consider BiohazardERA to be a private community) make bad faith commentary against Chris and the Media Create community, but Chris is the one banned for perceived lack of decorum?
This is not the first time cvxfreak has behaved in bad faith, either, and I have further screenshots, should anyone be interested. I know this is about Chris, not me, but just recently, cvx brought up one of my Era bans to use against me in an argument, since a Resident Evil poll I made here did not go as he expected. Additionally, I've observed him waiting for one member in particular to slip-up, so that he can give him the banhammer.
If I get banned for this post, so be it. Thank you to all the mods and admins that have tried to keep the peace, but a serious conversation must be held with, and about the mods that do not.
I want to preface this by saying I know I'm not a Media Create regular. I don't believe I've ever even previously posted in one of these sales threads, since I'm relatively uninterested in sales data. However, as it is of a direct relevance to the present situation with Chris, I feel I should at least offer up something that suggests even further that Chris's ban was unwarranted.
These posts are from the Era-affiliated "BiohazardERA" (Resident Evil) Discord server, which I've been in for awhile. The official stance from a moderator of both the server, and site (cvxfreak) is that the server is literally an extension of Era, and thus, I feel it's fair game to post anything from it that would be pertinent to the present situation:
The snarky post that Chris was banned for occurred on September 19, at 9:14 AM PDT. This was after cvxfreak had already made some bad faith posts in the BiohazardERA server, mocking the Media Create regulars and community, and acting proud for "shutting Chris up":
As can be seen, this post was made at on September 19, at 2:41 AM PDT, which... predates Chris's snarky post, obviously. How is it that cvxfreak is allowed to publicly (or privately, if you consider BiohazardERA to be a private community) make bad faith commentary against Chris and the Media Create community, but Chris is the one banned for perceived lack of decorum?
This is not the first time cvxfreak has behaved in bad faith, either, and I have further screenshots, should anyone be interested. I know this is about Chris, not me, but just recently, cvx brought up one of my Era bans to use against me in an argument, since a Resident Evil poll I made here did not go as he expected. Additionally, I've observed him waiting for one member in particular to slip-up, so that he can give him the banhammer.
If I get banned for this post, so be it. Thank you to all the mods and admins that have tried to keep the peace, but a serious conversation must be held with, and about the mods that do not.
Please post everything.
Are you seeing this B-Dubs . Of course you are, this debacle must be dominating your headspace right now.
I've been mostly lurking these threads since the old site. Chris1964 has been an invaluable guide to understand the market and words cannot express what his leaving represents. I have only kind words towards him and his time expent on these threads. From the bottom of my heart, thank you and gospeed.
At least 3 mods review a ban before hitting it and an admin has to sign off on anything greater than one month.
If you think this stops with cvx I recommend you keep digging.
You know, the fact that cvxfreak was already complaining about Chris, came in here and antagonized him, issued a day ban which led to perfectly expected results, and then came in and posted the new guidelines to discuss sales makes it seem like it was an intentional snipe to wrestle control of the media create threads away from Chris.
EDIT: Like, with those discord screenshots as context, going back and reading the mod posts honestly seems kind of sketchy.
Followed by bans of anyone who dare complain about it.
EDIT: Like, with those discord screenshots as context, going back and reading the mod posts honestly seems kind of sketchy.
After discord screenshots indicate cvxfreak was not a fan of Chris. Followed by new guidelines to follow. And then:
Followed by bans of anyone who dare complain about it.
Well, if for that you got a permaban, we are fucked here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well with Chris gone I don't really have a reason to visit this site anymore. When GAF went down and the communities were on discord, I know I wasn't alone when the deciding factor for Era was wherever Chris went. If he pops up somewhere else, someone please let me know.
It's crazy, but I've made a few reports outside this thread, and from what I recall they've been responded to or resolved. I cannot think of a single time I've made a report in these threads that was answered
the scenes when everyone posting here and criticizing the mods are banned for 1 day....
Can someone summarize what the hell happened? Seeing 2k posts for a sales thread caught my attention.
Well I don't really post on these threads but I read them weekly, and I used to post on them in the GAF days under my other username, but I'll be really sad to see Chris go. They've been an incredibly insightful user and one of the best posters these communities have ever produced, and hopefully this great loss will get the moderation team to figure some stuff out. It's hard to be hopeful after seeing similar situations play out again and again though.
I know others will be willing to fill his role but even as a non poster I've felt it was "wrong" in the past to have someone else do it (no offense to hero of legend lol).
I know others will be willing to fill his role but even as a non poster I've felt it was "wrong" in the past to have someone else do it (no offense to hero of legend lol).
It doesn't stop with cvx because this was a reasonable 1 day ban for multiple offenses, after prior warning. If yall had been mature about this it would have been a complete nothingburger.
If they would close it now, you know this would only make things worse and spread all over the board
That's quite the one-two punch.
I genuinely learnt many things in these threads, a rarity for sure around here these days.
Long story short, MC threads are now dead in the way they used to be. And now it's coming out that there was some mod shenanigans at play.
warioware sold 72,000 units and what does that mean for the future of the japanese game industry?
Bruno MB is permabanned, because He criticised a mod or ERA in Twitter?
What is going on?? That cannot be the only reason....if that is true, i'm speachless!
What is going on...i'm soooo sad right now:(
Please mods of ERA, explain to the Community, please.
What is going on?? That cannot be the only reason....if that is true, i'm speachless!
What is going on...i'm soooo sad right now:(
Please mods of ERA, explain to the Community, please.
Official Staff Communication
This is the first time we're seeing any of this. The mod in question isn't online right now but we've removed him from duty while we look into it. Due to time zones it's going to take a while to figure out what's going on.
To quickly clarify one thing about any Discord as an "extension of Era", that's just not the case. As far as we know that Discord isn't even run by a staff member.
To quickly clarify one thing about any Discord as an "extension of Era", that's just not the case. As far as we know that Discord isn't even run by a staff member.
Ain't that the truth lol.
When it stays open like this I assume the mod team is in a panic call. Or all of them are not checking the site lol.
*ah there's the answer
Can someone please let us know if this discussion is moving elsewhere. Sales age is the reason I came to GAF and the reason I came to ERA. I'd like to be a part of it going forward.
This whole thing has been an absolute shit show.
This whole thing has been an absolute shit show.
Who are you referring to in the "yall" part? (aka the people who are being immature apparently). Very curious.
Hi.
I wasn't exactly privy to the latest information, you understand.
Only form of poetic justice I see is if cvx is banned and Chris made into a moderator.
Yeah I had always been lurking VG Chartz and Gaf back in the day to see how the market was with the big 3. It was a fascinating time from the times where Sony was struggling, to when they surged with the ps4 and Nintendo basically flip flopping with Sony. Now it's happened again, albeit I think Sony's sales are fine for the most part(stock actually doing amazing). It's just that Switch is such a well made hybrid console! I feel like all 3 are doing pretty well atm even though there is a chip crisis still going on.
You realize you didn't phrase this in a way that's beneficial to your argument.
If a poster gets banned for offsite posts, well does it matter if it's an official extension of the site…
why would he want to moderate this place lol
I mean even if you genuinely grant things were in good faith (which may be in doubt, but grant it for a moment) it is just really awkward when a mod is directly involved in an argument with a poster about whatever thing and then that poster ends up banned. I know it was just a 1 day ban, who really cares, a day is nothing. But mods probably shouldn't even get involved in generalized argumentative discussion just as a general rule unless it involves rule enforcement, because there is no way the optics will turn out beneficial for the community.
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