Maybe it goes along the lines of crashed and burned. Some cars do explode in accidents.
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language is weird like that. "bomb" as an adjective is positive, "bomb" as a verb is negative. shit's weird
hold on hold on, 2021 is still winning and next week the gap could increase.
Great numbers by all platforms, especially Switch since (on top of being #1 as always) they didn't seem to shrink the supply all that much considering the demand that is expected for next week. I think Q12021 is absolutely feasible heck I predicted 317k so if I were correct the gap would grow in favour of 2021. This is where the real challenge begins for Team2021, having to face off months of Animal Crossing legs will be brutal, but we have something 2020 didn't: a Pokémon game.
PS5 sales will reach their limit with the 5-6 millions. You can't hemorrhage your small-mid tier game makers when none of your I.P.s are evergreens at home. There is no one left to fill in the year(s) long gaps between big games.
PlayStation leadership seems to think indie games can carry the weight by themselves. Fall Guys, Among Us, Minecraft, PUBG and Rocket League are great examples of indies blowing up so they have good reason to bet on that. Treat those digital online games as "television" and AAA games as "box office cinema" with your occasional critically acclaimed indies as your "independent film festival standouts".
They have the worldwide audience to make that strategy work and the Japanese companies that adapt to that market will succeed. But if you are a traditional company that relies on annual releases of boxed sales PlayStation is a dead end.
PlayStation leadership seems to think indie games can carry the weight by themselves. Fall Guys, Among Us, Minecraft, PUBG and Rocket League are great examples of indies blowing up so they have good reason to bet on that. Treat those digital online games as "television" and AAA games as "box office cinema" with your occasional critically acclaimed indies as your "independent film festival standouts".
They have the worldwide audience to make that strategy work and the Japanese companies that adapt to that market will succeed. But if you are a traditional company that relies on annual releases of boxed sales PlayStation is a dead end.
Super Mario 3D World Wii U vs Switch
Famitsu Sales: Week 12, 2021 (Mar 15 - Mar 21)
01./01. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury <ACT> (Nintendo) {2021.02.12} (¥5.980) - 37.396 / 555.517 (-10%)
Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2013 (Dec 23 - Dec 29) [Week 6]
08./07. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 71.159 / 410.041 <60-80%> (-23%)
Famitsu Sales: Week 8, 2014 (Feb 17 - Feb 23) [Week 14, Last appearance on the weekly sales charts]
29./18. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 4.614 / 530.416 <80-100%> (-12%)
Famitsu Sales: Week 12, 2021 (Mar 15 - Mar 21)
01./01. [NSW] Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury <ACT> (Nintendo) {2021.02.12} (¥5.980) - 37.396 / 555.517 (-10%)
Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2013 (Dec 23 - Dec 29) [Week 6]
08./07. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 71.159 / 410.041 <60-80%> (-23%)
Famitsu Sales: Week 8, 2014 (Feb 17 - Feb 23) [Week 14, Last appearance on the weekly sales charts]
29./18. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 4.614 / 530.416 <80-100%> (-12%)
I suspect it's more that bombs dropped from aircraft descend, like a failed media product sinking quickly down a sales chart before 'destruction'. Perhaps related to 'sales falling off a cliff' where the analogy is something swiftly plummeting to its destruction! If anyone has a better origin story I'd love to hear it :D
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I always associated it with films bombing at box office. First time I saw the bomba variation was in the old place in 2013 when I joined.
I feel like the PS5 software critiques are making a mountain out of a molehill. Demon's Souls and Spiderman MM seem to be the two games that correlate to higher PS5 hardware sales and higher software sales in Japan and the world over...which is what you want to see. If PS5 are hard to come by, why would retailers have mounds of PS5 games on shelves? Where I live, Gamestops, Targets, Best Buys, Walmarts etc have very meniscal PS5 (and Xbox Series) sections for games, they are almost nonexistent. I going to take a leap of faith and say its the same in Europe and Japan as well. We're missing PS5 digital for disc and DE owners, so taking the ~40k sales for both is trivial, we don't know the real number. You have many PS4 games that get free (or small fee) updates for PS5 and with a PS5 and PS+, you get 20 games for free. RE8 will be a good first test. Could Sony have launched with better software support, sure, but lets not pretend that people have nothing to play, its harder to capture the data with just retail sales.
The Verge has the current lineup for PS5 and Xbox Series games for this year, what game would chart, consistently, in Japan? Even a game like Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends & the Secret Fairy didn't last long on both PS4 and Switch.
PS5 & XBOX SERIES X/S 2021 RELEASE SCHEDULE
The Verge has the current lineup for PS5 and Xbox Series games for this year, what game would chart, consistently, in Japan? Even a game like Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends & the Secret Fairy didn't last long on both PS4 and Switch.
PS5 & XBOX SERIES X/S 2021 RELEASE SCHEDULE
| Game | Release Date | Xbox Series or PS5? | Cross-gen? | PC? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| MXGP 2020 | 01/14/2021 | PS5 only | No, PS5 exclusive | No |
| Hitman 3 | 01/20/2021 | Both | Free upgrade from digital | Yes |
| Ride 4 | 01/21/2021 | Both | No | No |
| Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends & the Secret Fairy | 01/26/2021 | PS5 | No, PS5 exclusive | Yes |
| Cyber Shadow | 01/26/2021 | PS5 only | No, PS5 exclusive | Yes |
| The Medium | 01/28/2021 | Xbox only | No | Yes |
| The Pedestrian | 01/29/2021 | PS5 only | No, PS5 exclusive | Yes |
| Control: Ultimate Edition | 02/02/2021 | Both | Yes, upgrade only with Ultimate Edition | Yes |
| Destruction AllStars | 02/02/2021 | PS5 only | No, PS5 exclusive | No |
| Werewolf: The Apocalypse - Earthblood | 02/04/2021 | Both | Yes | Yes |
| Nioh Remastered - The Complete Edition | 02/05/2021 | PS5 only | No, PS5 exclusive | No |
| Nioh 2 Renastered - The Complete Edition | 02/05/2021 | PS5 only | No, PS5 exclusive | No |
| Little Nightmares 2 | 02/11/2021 | Both | Yes | Yes |
| Yakuza: Like a Dragon | 03/02/2021 (PS5) | Available now on Xbox, PS5 on 03/02/2021 | Yes | Yes |
| Monster Energy Supercross: The Official Video Game 4 | 03/11/2021 | Both | Yes | Yes |
| Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time | 03/12/2021 | Both | Yes, free upgrade | Yes |
| Samurai Spirits (aka Samurai Shodown) | 03/16/2021 | Xbox only | Yes | Yes |
| Marvel's Avengers | 03/18/2021 | Both | Yes, free upgrade | Yes |
| Balan Wonderland | 03/26/2021 | Both | Yes | Yes |
| It Takes Two | 03/26/2021 | Both | Yes | Yes |
| Terminator: Resistance | 03/26/2021 | PS5 only | Yes | Yes |
| Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 + 2 | 03/26/2021 | Both | Free upgrade with Cross-Gen Digital Deluxe Edition | Yes |
| Disco Elysium: The Final Cut | 03/30/2021 | PS5 on 03/031/2021; Xbox TBD | Yes | Yes |
Sounds like you have a problem with people blaming Sony.
Maybe problem is a strong word, but that's semantics. I'm just saying the fact that the console is in heavy demand WW, which is true and of course helps contextualise the Japanese situation, doesn't mean the Japanese situation can't be described as poor (for HW) or even abysmal (for SW). Moreover, the console is breaking sales records in other territories in spite of the unprecedented WW demand.
So yeah, people who say "It's Sonys fault for providing not enough Stock" maybe have a point, even though there are other much more relevant (and worrisome) factors shaping the PS situation in Japan right now, which have also been discussed in depth in these threads.
The sellthrough data we got for Demon's Souls and Spider-man MM indicated that (at least at launch) there was a lot of games stuck at retailers.
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Tsukihime remake confirmed just Ciel and Arcueid route for now
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Except with the higher hardware sales we've seen last week, both games barely broke into the top 30. That is not correlating high hardware to high software sales.
Demon's Souls is still at 60-80% sellthrough.
The retail shelf space of new platforms is always small. No one is talking about how filled or bare the shelves are. They are saying the actual software numbers look bad. But the software is so fucking bad that I feel like there has to be engagement metrics we are missing.
It has to be F2P games or older games that got free upgrades. Because PS4 games are barely charting as well.
What is the percentage of digital only PS5? I'm going to guess that the userbase is so small that it represents the most enthousiastic PS fans and I'm guessing they're very digital heave too. This will change overtime though but that is my guess. I agree that the numbers are too bad to be true.
The term "bomb" to describe failure has been used for decades and decades in North America in situations as plain as a student saying "I bombed that test". Like naw, this is not a Media Create thing. Like not even close.
it comes from the film industry, at least in american usage. Box office bombs are a term that goes back many decades in the broader culture.
Q1 was the real challenge, in fact it was the hardest quarter to fight against and depending on next week we shall see what position it will go into Q2
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Thank you. I was about to say this.
I mean no disrespect, but RPGamer2 , you have the honour of being the worst poster I've (ever?) seen in these threads, and that's no small feat at all. You continuously chose to ignore the rich data provided in these threads so that you can keep twisting arguments, or even worse, posting passive-aggressive victim complex messages which divert from reality. I'm no mod, but I feel like I have to ask you to stop it, please.
I think the thing is unless it's specifically a massively increased digital ratio it's little solace to publishers. If consumers are using backwards compatibility, PS Plus Collection, F2P games that's fine for engagement with the platform(& for Sony) but if you're a publisher trying to release a premium priced game it makes no real difference.
Sell Thru by quarter......
Q# 2020 — 2019 — 2018 — 2017
Q1: 1703k — 954k — 684k — 565k
Q2: 964k .—. 531k — 484k — 476k
Q3: 1287k - 1035k — 595k — 767k
Q4: 2003k - 1975k - 1720k - 1673k
Tot: 5957k - 4494k - 3482k - 3407k
2021 will be at a good start, and next quarter is where 2021 will need to build a lead leading into H2.
Q# 2020 — 2019 — 2018 — 2017
Q1: 1703k — 954k — 684k — 565k
Q2: 964k .—. 531k — 484k — 476k
Q3: 1287k - 1035k — 595k — 767k
Q4: 2003k - 1975k - 1720k - 1673k
Tot: 5957k - 4494k - 3482k - 3407k
2021 will be at a good start, and next quarter is where 2021 will need to build a lead leading into H2.
wow have I really been following these threads for nearly 20 years!??
Then dont do this shit. Like is this really necessary? Like come on, this is just taking a shitty shot. Lets not.
The amount of PS5 only software worldwide can be counted on 1 hand. So I dont really feel like publishers are worried right now. In 2 years when PS4 dies off I would be more willing to have this discussion.
Thing is, in Japan, where this thread is based on, PS4 games aren´t charting at all.
Maybe another platform for Kuro no Kiseki?😉
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Sure, especially when you take backwards compatibility into account but then PS4 software sales haven't exactly been red hot either. It's not like we're seeing Miles Morales PS4 doing the numbers in Japan.
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Sure, especially when you take backwards compatibility into account but then PS4 software sales haven't exactly been red hot either. It's not like we're seeing Miles Morales PS4 doing the numbers in Japan.
It really is. The "contributions" by this person keep getting more and more toxic to the point where they keep passively-aggressively attacking all of us who don't share their views, no matter what data and context indicate. I rather ask them to please stop it before reporting them.
If you think he´s being the way that you´re saying, just report him.
They must really like the pack in game too because they arent buying anything else
I like your sales comparisons, but i hate the fact that you dont use graphics. They become hard to read sometimes.You should use one of those pages that let you create free charts.
hiska-kun btw, what page do you use to create your charts?
Use your report button more. No one has to "fix their behabviour" for you or anyone in the thread.
And frankly you're no one to talk about toxicity when you just called someone the worst poster in the thread ever. You're mad at beung passive aggressively attacked so you go for the plain direct attack approach.
This shit is weak. It is not hard to ignore someone if you do not like them.
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And when it comes to game sales how old it is because I don't remember reading "this game bombed" at 90's.
Team 2021 days are numbered. Monster hunter isn't the system seller that animal crossing was for March
Is funny how nintendo revived Momotaro Dentetsu by licensing the IP and having the Devil's Third studio out of everyone make a game for 3DS and now they are cashing in with the next game doing over 2 million in Japan. I guess the 3DS game did well enough for Konami to make a new one themselves.
It doesn't have to be, because 2021 was just steadily higher for months without any big new game!