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Media Create (Japanese sales tracker) to stop providing public sales numbers from April
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What if we create a dummy account that would share those numbers anonymously on the forum <.<
I suggest y'all shut the hell up about this subscription nonsense people with loose lips can see it
We're gonna be seeing some of that floating around. Like we do/did sometimes for NPD.
Man...something dies in me. OK...not that bad..but every wednesday i woke up, and i was like..."yeah, let's check out the media create numbers".
Oh man:(
Oh man:(
If they want to find a leak, they can manipulate numbers for suspected subscriptions pretty easily. As long as the numbers shared are visible to everyone, you will face this problem. That's why all leaks eventually dry up. When it's just a few people discussing numbers without being able to share in a larger context with a forum, it's way less interesting and the novelty of having exclusive numbers no one else does wears off.
I think you missed this part:
Without numbers, first place can be 1 million, 200k, 100k, 20k, 10k, whatever. Knowing the top 10 would be almost meaningless (I am assuming Famitsu and co will follow suite).
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Which is why we will move to Famitsu.
But you cant say that the Top 10 are meaningless without numbers...but adding the Top 20 without numbers will be much more interesting ? We know how much they games outside the Top 10 sell per week in this market.
Thats pretty much the result of mismatch in the japanese console industry for the last couple years - unless you are Nintendo and a handful of experiences those weekly numbers arent a good look for you. This Feb/March were another reminder, with the system selling like Switch missing pretty much every big 3rdParty release and still selling on auto mode.
If you dont release your best content on the system selling by far the most every week - its difficult to create a momentum or have legs for your titles.
Media Create has expressly asked individuals not to make inquiries regarding subscriptions.
Maybe I should give them a call or e-mail one of these days to see what they have on offer. Since I run a Japanese video game music company, I would qualify assuming there are no other hidden requirements. However, I wouldn't be able to publicly share the data anyway, so I'm not sure how much help this would be to SalesERA.
Maybe I should give them a call or e-mail one of these days to see what they have on offer. Since I run a Japanese video game music company, I would qualify assuming there are no other hidden requirements. However, I wouldn't be able to publicly share the data anyway, so I'm not sure how much help this would be to SalesERA.
If you have no use for it, I don't think there's much you can do with it without potentially getting your subscription cancelled. I think even small hints like "over 10K" would make them cancel it.
New suggestion : we gather funds through a Kickstarter and buy 51% of the shares of Media Create and make them change their stance
In the absence of other data (Famitsu, Dengeki), it would actually be very helpful to have since it helps me keep track of greater industry trends. Even if game music is niche, sales data still helps us make more informed decisions.
Whether this is due to publisher or pressure or an attempt to get more money surely famitsu and dengeki won't be far behind. Also I do wonder how much this will benefit hem financially with all the competition. The NPD are the only source of the data and can basically charge a lot for it. In Japan 2 other companies provide just as comprehensive data, why would companies pay for media create?
Hoping this isn't the beginning of the end of getting comprehensive public data. Media create threads are really one of the main reasons I still read this forum.
Hoping this isn't the beginning of the end of getting comprehensive public data. Media create threads are really one of the main reasons I still read this forum.
Which other entertainment industries except for the movie box office? Or any other industry for that matter.
Companies want to control 'the message' that goes publicly. It's in the nature of people actually, to show the positives and hide the negatives.
Also, these charts have value and are being made by people that should get paid for their work.
So maybe they'll show less publicly so they can sell more. (edit: or more likely, the industry is putting pressure on them)
To be fair, collecting and reporting data is Media Create's only business. Famitsu and Dengeki don't make most of their money through the sharing of game sales data. Maybe it would be better for them to just keep it free and get more mindshare for the things they actually mostly profit from.
Or maybe that's just my wishful thinking. But it's worth considering the different nature of these companies.
The difference between MC and the others is that MC is a much smaller company dedicated solely to sales data analysis. Famitsu (officially, Enterbrain) and Dengeki (officially ASCII Media Works) are propped up by a (the same) large parent corporation that offers a wide portfolio of businesses. If the other two see no express need or pressure from their existing shareholders to further monetize sales data, then they may very well keep the ship going for the foreseeable future.
That's interesting. Surely that makes media creates data barely worth paying for when you have 2 other companies providing the same service for free.
Whatever the case we'll still be getting data for the time being so I guess that's something. Hopefully that doesn't change.
Well MC is the most accurate one, maybe companies are okay with Famitsu's disinformation.
I always assumed that Media Create offered the advantage of releasing their data earlier than the others privately to subscribers. Their data gathering process must be automated to an extent. It'd be like the UK charts that come out on Mondays.
I assume that isn't going to change. I also assume that Famitsu's recent schedule changes have been made to remain competitive in this front.
Dengeki. The Superior tracker. They provide top 50 with numbers,
If you mean the digital thing, it's not added to their sales rankings, which are completely fine. MC, Famitsu and Dengeki all have very similar results in their rankings, which shows they're all legit.
If you are the smaller company, with only one focus and you take what you are best at out of the public eye, how does this help you?
The name Media Create meant something around here. Letting 2 bigger companies take your spot does not seem like the way to go. I would be hoping Famitsu and Degeki drop out too if I were Media Create. This is like Atari and Sega taking a back seat when they had so much mindshare in the industry. Oh they are still around in name but not as huge in the minds of fans.
Why do that to your brand?
Again, you don't know what you're talking about. Equating their physical report with their digital estimates is fully ignorant.
So no more endless threads of Twitter hot, so very hot takes polluting my midweek timeline?
I'll live.
I'll live.
I'm not equating, I don't find what is the point of their estimates: either you have the data or not, estimates is acting like Vgchartz.
It's an attempt at acquiring data. They have a methodology, which doesn't work but I assume they're trying to work on it until it does.
LOL dude with fewer reliable sources we will get more threads based on Rumors, Leaks, and Speculations. = It means a worst midweek for your timeline not better.