I can't wait to see how stone cold solid the democrat's case could be, making them look like downright clowns for dismissing it.
Not that it would be surprising though.
Not that it would be surprising though.
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McConnell says Senate would acquit Trump if trial held today
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Yep. The Dems should absolutely go forward with impeachment, but don't expect the Senate to actually remove him.
It's a dumb play either way. It could backfire, like people are saying, and end up giving them more, free publicity.
Or it could totally work and hand Biden--arguably an even stronger candidate--a bigger advantage.
Well, it also needs to shrink in the right places... thanks to the EC and gerrymandering meaning they can still enjoy very high representation at a very low amount of voters.
Turtlefuck is probably thinking at this point doubling down on Trump populism is their only chance in 2020. If they run with Pence, I can see them losing all 3 chambers.
If Mcconnell still had control, he would never allow it to get this far and just slowly bury it like they did everything else for Trump's first two years. He and Barr are really no different than one another and just hide shit and complain and lie when Democrats dig for the truth.
Democrats have been always been terrible at the messaging game since people like Pelosi and Schumer lead the party and never want to push back on anything.
Republicans at the very least know the game and how effective repetition is when your entire party is consistent on pushing arguments meant to trigger an emotional response. Just keep hammering those same arguments constantly and people will eventually start to believe it truthful or not.
Democrats have been always been terrible at the messaging game since people like Pelosi and Schumer lead the party and never want to push back on anything.
Republicans at the very least know the game and how effective repetition is when your entire party is consistent on pushing arguments meant to trigger an emotional response. Just keep hammering those same arguments constantly and people will eventually start to believe it truthful or not.
I'll never comprehend Republicans' willingness to shield and protect Trump above all else, knowing the orange shitstain will humiliate them and throw them under the bus the instant it becomes convenient.
Man it's so cool to have this elected official come out and literally say, before any kind of trial or presentation of evidence, that he's already made up his mind on what to do. Super radical. Just fuckin awesome.
The fun is literally only getting started and the bedwetters and trolls are going through the roof. McConnell is literally just being himself and working on keeping the troops in line. Ignore that shit and keep watching the show.
You seriously think there is literally anything's ng that could be said that woukd get over a dozen Republicans to defect? We could get testimony of Trump unequivocally raping someone and that wouldn't happen. Trump will not be removed from office through this trial.
Because they're corrupt & because Trump &/or Putin have a lot of dirt on them.
It's not even that complex. Trump, as the President, has the party, its base, and its funding mechanisms by the balls.
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The Dems should push the trial during Mitch's most busy campaigning time. Whoever opposes him would probably still lose but that would probably cause Mitch to spend more money.
not surprising, the only thing that will make the GOP turn on trump is if he loses the election, then they'll point to all their public statements where they disavowed him, ignore the many in support of him and all the times they said what he was doing was bad then voted in favour anyway, the republican voters will fall for it and the status quo will go back to pre-Trump except with more overt dogwhistles.
*The next day*
"I didn't say that. There's no proof. Noooo proooof. It's just the Democrats with their usual lies, saying there's a tape of me. There's no tape. No one's seen me. If they had seen me, they'd know about me because there would be a tape. Which there is not"
IIRC, Jeff Flake said that he's been talking to Senate Republicans, and he said that if it were an anonymous vote, there is easily already enough Republican support for the impeachment of Trump. Plenty of Republicans have had it with Trump's bullshit and they're eager to throw him under the bus so that he can stop fucking things up for the rest of them (there are also obviously Republicans who love everything Trump is doing, and are tripping over themselves to suck his dick). Trump could be impeached tomorrow, if the vote were anonymous.
But the problem is that Mitch McConnell will never allow it to go to an anonymous vote. The turtle wants to publish the names of any traitors to the Republican cause, so that the Republican Party can destroy any dissenters. If the Republican Party cuts off it's support for any Republican Senator, then that Senator will lose their seat, guaranteed. The Republican Party is trying to keep everyone in line by threatening to fire them.
The tipping point will have to come when Republicans see that defending Trump will cost them their seats. If they're going to lose either way, they're going to turn against the ones they hold responsible for this mess (that being Trump, and the portion of the Republican Party that sides with him).
I don't think any of that is true. I mean if you're talking about Fox, then yeah, its mostly parroting Trump, though even they have exceptions.
I'm not sure where you're getting your news but I've been watching the media pushing back on all that.
Not that it really matters though, the crime was so blatant the it's nearly impossible to spin.
This is the only thing that will bust Mitch out of his shell, pure Russian heat.
They'll bring back some of the ones who testified behind closed doors to testify again but publicly.
This will draw more attention from the public, then I guess they'll subpoena him to confirm everything.
