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Mazda Miata tops reliability list for 2020
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Calling KIAs ugly when Honda currently produces this fuckin monstrosity....
....with more fake vents than you can shake a stick at. The stock Civic is ugly already, then they went to the gawdy-boy-racer store and bought everything they could fit on it.
most KIAs arent much to write home about but the Honda line up is straight up gross these days.
Calling KIAs ugly when Honda currently produces this fuckin monstrosity....
....with more fake vents than you can shake a stick at. The stock Civic is ugly already, then they went to the gawdy-boy-racer store and bought everything they could fit on it.
most KIAs arent much to write home about but the Honda line up is straight up gross these days.
It looks like a goddamn Gundam and I fucking love it.
Honda already has enough compact FWD shit-boxes.
Now...the S2000 on the other hand.
the only image thats ever conjured in my mind when i hear mazda miata is a prize on the NES concentration game
it might as well be a pretend car to me
it might as well be a pretend car to me
If you look at consumer reports ratings per car, Honda keeps getting average predicted reliability but historically keeps getting great actual reliability. Reminds me I need to cancel my online subscription, they've been doing this a few years and it smells like bullshit.
IIRC, they've been having some serious issues with their 1.5L Turbos.
Yup, I just checked the Pilot. 2019 predicted reliability 3/5. Actual reliability per area 5/5 for all except 4/5 for AC and 3/5 for in car electronics. How the hell they rationalize total reliability 3/5 when engine major, engine minor, suspension, transmission etc is 5/5 and has been for years is beyond me.
Also looking at the review they give headlights 2/5 lol wtf everyone that I've had in my car at night is amazed at how the LED lights auto adjust and evenly blanket the road.
Also looking at the review they give headlights 2/5 lol wtf everyone that I've had in my car at night is amazed at how the LED lights auto adjust and evenly blanket the road.
Just bought my wife a 2019 4Runner. Hoping she can get a solid ~8 years out of it. That list makes me feel a little more confident...
See that's a great point. You can spin the data they have in many ways to get an outcome.
I'm already skeptical at 3 years of ownership since as others have pointed out that's within the warranty window. Subaru is top half but my BRZ (along with other models) had a recall for the engine valve spring early this year. That was one of the most nerve-wracking letters I've read in a while.
I concur, I have a 2014 Mazda 3 S Grand Touring and it's been perfect thus far (only at about 40k miles on mine though). It's an incredibly good car. The current crop of Mazda's seem fairly bulletproof and many of them way underrated in their respective segments. Definitely consider a Mazda for your next car if you're looking sometime soon; they are really, really good.
The current Miata is an amazing drive too.
The newer generations of Audi are perfect, since the whole tech and software got really utilised. My two Audi's have not had any problems and are the best cars I've ever had. My current Audi is a hybrid and has never failed me in any situation. Can't say the same for my Toyota or Nissan, but that's all anecdotal.
I own (a blue) one, and not only is it a beauty to look at, it never felt this good to drive a car. It makes me look forward to get up in the morning and drive to work.Calling KIAs ugly when Honda currently produces this fuckin monstrosity....
....with more fake vents than you can shake a stick at. The stock Civic is ugly already, then they went to the gawdy-boy-racer store and bought everything they could fit on it.
I love my Mazda MX-5 RF (Miata Hard-Top)
I have it for another year before my lease ends. It's been a great car and having a hard top convertible here in Southern California has been great. I wanted something that had great handling as I had a Lotus Evora prior.
Also LOL to the person who said Tesla Model 3 will appear in the top 10 next year. No. It. Wont.
EDIT: Also color me impressed at MINI. They used to always rank dead last or bottom 3 in every reliability report. Seems like they made a nice rebound.
EDIT 2: Where is Jaguar/Range Rover/Land Rover? LOL -- Didn't even make the list??
I have it for another year before my lease ends. It's been a great car and having a hard top convertible here in Southern California has been great. I wanted something that had great handling as I had a Lotus Evora prior.
Also LOL to the person who said Tesla Model 3 will appear in the top 10 next year. No. It. Wont.
EDIT: Also color me impressed at MINI. They used to always rank dead last or bottom 3 in every reliability report. Seems like they made a nice rebound.
EDIT 2: Where is Jaguar/Range Rover/Land Rover? LOL -- Didn't even make the list??
I just got this in Sonic Grey Pearl (objectively the best color), and every single person that sees it falls in love with the look immediately, myself included. Even strangers comment on it. I love the look so much and it's my favorite amongst current sedans, one of my fondest purchases in my life.Calling KIAs ugly when Honda currently produces this fuckin monstrosity....
....with more fake vents than you can shake a stick at. The stock Civic is ugly already, then they went to the gawdy-boy-racer store and bought everything they could fit on it.
most KIAs arent much to write home about but the Honda line up is straight up gross these days.
I refuse to believe Dodge has any place in the top ten.
As someone who just bought a Stinger a couple months ago, I appreciate this post.
Pretty sure your car doesn't look better than a Kia Stinger.
Anecdotal evidence from Honda owners around me are that they've been slipping in their game for recent years. They drive perfectly for maybe 2 years and then mechanical problems start showing up.
Honda's been having trouble with their 1.5T engine, namely that it's encountering some rather chronic oil dilution issues with gasoline finding its way into the oil circulation. Their newer CVT has also had some teething issues from what I've heard.
Will say I'm always somewhat impressed with how high Porsche lands on these reliability charts given their propensity for complete and total over-engineering.
My wife had a Del Sol, she loved that thing. Nice little car. Never liked Miatas.
newer Audi's with the 2.0 and 3.0 turbos are in fact quite reliable.
a bit odd vw being at near the end of the same list though given the 2.0t is a pretty common engine option and is pretty similar to the Audi variant and pretty bulletproof as well. Shrugs. Like a vw with the 2.0t and a manual is gonna be very reliable. Throw a dsg in there and yeah, bad news.
with most badges though honestly you need to analyze the engine and transmission pairings, as well as if the electronics are known for issues in a given model, over just the badge.
Toyota/Lexus and yeah Mazda are pretty much the only 2 brands where yeah pretty much everything they make is pretty solid. There may be some certain auto transmissions they make that are known dogs but im not up on them really.
I drive a 2012 Jeep wk2 grand Cherokee and honestly it's been pretty reliable. I had a radiator replacement under warranty other than that just oil changes brakes and tires. It's now at 90k miles.
it actually is on a Benz platform and has a Benz 5 speed in it, and the 3.6 pentastar is pretty rock solid. Like there's actually a lot of metric stuff and made in Germany stamps all over the underbody.
I'm going to need to do the diff fluids and spark plugs pretty soon here though. They diffs I've intentionally avoided as I don't do any towing or off road stuff, but it's starting to feel pretty damn stiff daily driving.
I'd honestly probably avoid anything else made by FCA other than a pentastar and a manual on a wrangler or a pentastar and that 5 speed (which is only available up to like 2014 models). I wouldn't trust any of their 4 bangers or 8 speeds honestly.
and lol at mini being #10 on that list. Other than like an 06 S with a manual those cars are nightmares.
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Ok b.... Nah ain't worth it. 😉
This is the new 2020 KIA optima
To be totally honest, i still really don't like their interiors, and i was stuck servicing their first NA cars 15 years ago, i'm kinda stuck in that mentality.
the stinger looks nice but also it feels too much like it's a rebadged jaguar XF with a merc interior.
optimas, and really anything they put that 2.0 turbo gdi in are fucking sick. Just saying.
like a Kia Sportage with that thing in it pulls hard.
major sleepers, especially with a tune. Like you can pull on gtis and and it's like what. Lol.
Mazdas seem to do fine for several years and then fall apart all at once like the Bluesmobile.
How recent is recent?
I know someone who has an S5 from the gen before the current one and it's been at the dealership for the last five or six MONTHS straight.
I know at least ten people who are die-hard Audi loyalists and every one of them experiences issues that would give me nightmares.
How recent is recent?
I know someone who has an S5 from the gen before the current one and it's been at the dealership for the last five or six MONTHS straight.
I know at least ten people who are die-hard Audi loyalists and every one of them experiences issues that would give me nightmares.
for the 2.0T 2013 or newer otherwise there are major oil consumption issues.
3.0t is pretty solid really from 2010 or so.
If that s5 has the v8 yeah makes sense. Audi v8 is a fine engine as long as it is maintained to the letter, but even then something might blow up on you.
outside the engine anything 2013 or older is gonna be problematic. Audi was following the bmw model of this car is gonna basically blow up by 100k miles pre 2013.
The del sol is just an EG civic hatchback but without the practical hatchback part.
I did always find the styling a bit odd since it looks like it should be a mid engine car, but it isn't.
4runners last forever and if its 4wd it barely goes down in value.
yep 4Runner is even better than a wrangler in resale value. Things are absolute tanks.
Jeep GC is a different story but has been holding at $15k or so and it's nearly 10 years old. Not bad. I expect it to plummet once I'm over 120k miles or so though which a wrangler or 4Runner wouldn't.
The interesting part about 4wd Toyota's is, whatever the odometer reads it really doesn't change the value at all.
Ooooof yeah that would be dope. After living with an 03 Miata for ~3 years and going to a BRZ, I won't ever go back to a soft top ever again. I've done a solo drive down to LA in that thing, the highway wind/road noise is torturous.I would love to buy an MX-5 if they made a shooting brake version. Just can't live with a convertible.
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We had a FJ Cruiser with 85k miles on it and it sold for 35 grand.
Another thing with Mazda is that they have pretty standard interiors but they feel slightly higher in class than others in the same category. I also think they have the sportiest of the "normal" priced cars in terms of looks.
Kudos for Mazda. Shocked they dont sell more.
Kudos for Mazda. Shocked they dont sell more.
ok so you like the boy racer civic shit they putting out now?
Wife has a 2013 Pilot with 65k miles on it. Bought it like the years ago because we thought Hondas were one of the top reliable brands. Currently been in the shop the whole last week trying to fix a transmission shudder that happens when the car hits 40 mph. Third time it's been in for various issues. She's starting to question if we got a lemon.
Just bought myself a 2017 CX-5 this summer. Really loving it so far as well. So fun to drive and the interior feels luxurious to me. But I was coming from a 2007 Camry I've been driving the past ten years lol.
yeah my dads pilot has had major issues as well. Transmission and transfer case. Like with any brand there are going to be some models with known issues.
Wow, these rankings blow my mind from a personal experience perspective. Have had very little issues with 2 different Mitsubishi (Magna and Lancer), nothing but problems with a Ford Focus and a mixed bag Hyundai Sonata.