Its a timed exclusive if the godfall website is anything to go by
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Matt Booty (Xbox): Our titles for the next year or two will not be next gen exclusive
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Its a timed exclusive if the godfall website is anything to go by
For everyone thinking it won't be that much of a difference, because "games are scaleable, they can just scale them up just like on PC", let's think about some of the best looking last gen games.
The Last of Us is commonly listed among these. And conveniently enough, it actually was upgraded for PS4 as well. So, is The Last of Us on PS4 comparable to a current-gen only game? I think that's a clear no. There's a huge difference between TLoU 1 and 2, because 2 was built for the PS4, not for a weaker system and then "upgraded".
Same with Uncharted 3. Is U3 on PS4 equivalent to Uncharted 4?
Battlefield 4 and Battlefield 1/V?
GTA4 and RDR2?
Resolutions and framerates are scalable, yes. Core game design and assets, not so much.
If it's true that MS's games are cross-gen while Sony's are next-gen only, there is going to be a pretty stark contrast in graphics, scale, and design only possible with new features like the SSD.
The Last of Us is commonly listed among these. And conveniently enough, it actually was upgraded for PS4 as well. So, is The Last of Us on PS4 comparable to a current-gen only game? I think that's a clear no. There's a huge difference between TLoU 1 and 2, because 2 was built for the PS4, not for a weaker system and then "upgraded".
Same with Uncharted 3. Is U3 on PS4 equivalent to Uncharted 4?
Battlefield 4 and Battlefield 1/V?
GTA4 and RDR2?
Resolutions and framerates are scalable, yes. Core game design and assets, not so much.
If it's true that MS's games are cross-gen while Sony's are next-gen only, there is going to be a pretty stark contrast in graphics, scale, and design only possible with new features like the SSD.
I get your point but we're talking about MS exclusives here. They spend much more time optimizing for xbox than a third party game.
I don't understand why are they telling this now? Why not wait for the E3, let the new Games wow people and talk about all of this short before the release of the new console?
If I'm not mistaken, Shadow or Mordor didn't have nemesis system on PS360.
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Dead lol? It will be done by Sony with the PS5 and they will be vastly more successful than Microsoft with their new no exclusives approach. That much I can guarantee you.
You comparing games that were later ported to the former system not scaled down to the former.
Better examples would be forza horizon 2, tomb raider, sea of thieves( minimum pc specs) etc.
I think Godfall has potentially become a lot more important given this new landscape.
It seems pretty obvious, does it not? If the focus is on selling hardware, then your first party software goes on the new system and that's it. If selling software is the focus, then you put it on as many platforms as you can. It's why they'll be supporting the One for a couple more years, it's why their exclusives are on PC, it's why they've embraced Steam, and it's why they've prepared Xcloud to run on multiple devices. People here will thump their chests because their favorite box will hit the market and sell like hot cakes, but the reality is that Microsoft doesn't have to sell as much hardware when they have software available everywhere.
To take this a step further, it's why they're pretty much out of the hardware game altogether, aside from Xbox and Surface products.
Which of those examples you cited came out in the first two years of their respective consoles? I don't think any of them did.
Makes the transition to the next generation easy for their customer base. When their azure blades have scarlett level hardware in them, that's a path that they will give users to start migrating to Scarlett only gaming on gamepass until they have a series s/x or they continue to just stream.
Also, not worried about developers not taking full advantage of next-gen hardware...cuz it takes years for them to do that anyways...always been the case and will continue to be the case. 2022 will be when we see them take advantage and also when the exclusives will start.
Also, not worried about developers not taking full advantage of next-gen hardware...cuz it takes years for them to do that anyways...always been the case and will continue to be the case. 2022 will be when we see them take advantage and also when the exclusives will start.
Counterplay Games is an independent video game studio based in California. Our next title is GODFALL, a modern fantasy action RPG.
Exclusive to PlayStation 5 & PC for Holiday 2020.
They make this point on the counterplay website which previously held the statement " Making Godfall for next Gen Systems"
This strategy shows what we already knows : Nintendo, Microsoft and SONY have all different objectives and noone is really against each others.
By doing that, MS is trying to kill "generation of consoles" and we will see a lot of Xbox Series in the next 10 years.
By doing that, MS is trying to kill "generation of consoles" and we will see a lot of Xbox Series in the next 10 years.
But that's exactly the discussion we're having right now.
Nobody has a problem with a scalable game to be scaled down for the old hardware.
But MS is saying all of their games in the first 2 years won't be allowed to go beyond what the old systems can take. The games vision doesn't seem to be the priority here.
The Last of Us was a PS3 game that never took PS4 into consideration, though. It's not the same case at all.
Pretty much. Also Sony is going to abandon the 106 million PS4s out there to develop games exclusively for the 5-10 million that buy an PS5 this holiday.
The funny thing is that the same levels of concern happened on the old forum when they announced that Forza Horizon 2 was going to be on Xbox 360 and Xbox One, and people were """"""concerned"""""" that the Xbox one wasn't going to be taken advantage of, and what happened? When the game came out no one mentioned the concern again. Funny how that happens, this feels like deja vu
That's what I want to know. I think they will since it's their games, not sure if third parties will do this though. I can't see it working any other way on gamepass? Maybe 2 versions of the same game show up?
I'm having a hard time naming a showpiece game for the PS4/XB1 launch. Like yeah there is Ryse and Killzone Shadowfall, but neither one was critically acclaimed nor sold all that well. Black Flag, probably my favorite game of any released in that launch window obviously was cross gen.
Hell the best PS4/XB1 launch exclusive was Killer Instinct and that was F2P!
I'm guessing your idea of a showpiece game is probably different from mine though.
To be fair FH2 on 360 is a completly seprate game made by another developer.
I understand your point about their approach. Exclusives everywhere, embrace Steam, xcloud on multiple devices etc etc but I still don't understand the introduction of new hardware when XBOX gamers themselves are convinced Microsoft are no longer invested in hardware. Surely as much as it's dimissed there must be some point to it.
"Why would I buy a 2080Ti if this games min spec is a GTX780?? IT'S HOLDING MY CARD BACK"
Wasn;t infamous a launch title for PS4? I don't remember when it was released but it was the first time I thought "wow this is next gen" at the time
Pretty sure that was in March. It still looks pretty good, you're right about that.
The only problem is that Sony will traditionally have PS5 only games to showcase, so direct comparison is inevitable. Per Jason.
Sure, but my point is Microsoft aren't idiots and aren't going to compromise their games. The concern here doesn't make much sense unless we see clear issues that having games runs on an OG Xbox One bring.
So much negativity in here, but did we forget about scaling techniques? I don't think we should worry at all.
That being said, does this rule out Fable coming out anytime soon after XSX releases?
That being said, does this rule out Fable coming out anytime soon after XSX releases?
It's not a fair comparison. You're comparing last gen games to games that came out deep into this console lifecycle.
A fairer comparison would be to compare last gen's final year games to games that came out in the first year or two of this console lifecycle. There, I think you'll find there isn't as much of a gameplay difference. Sure, you have a game like Ryse at launch, but in reality, that game wasn't too hot when it comes to gameplay and focused almost entirely on graphical presentation. The generation took a year or two to get off the ground and give us the types of games we have come to expect from current gen hardware. Nothing in the first year, especially, felt significantly unachievable on previous gen hardware from a gameplay perspective. Of course the games were prettier though.
Resogun, for example, was cool. But not "omg the power of PS4" cool.
