I'd forgotten about, that's an easy route to bring her back if they want
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(Massive Endgame Spoilers) How the hell does Tony
- Thread starter Digital-Kill3r-7
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What?
Half his body got crispy
Likely suffered brain damage because he couldn't speak in his final moments
Oh, and HE DIED
Half his body got crispy
Likely suffered brain damage because he couldn't speak in his final moments
Oh, and HE DIED
Why the hell do you have to snap your fingers to make the infinity stones work? I thought it was just an affectation by Thanos but then in endgame his plan literally fails because he can't snap his fingers. They could have saved the entire universe by just dumping a bunch of oil on the gauntlet.
It seems to me both the infinity gauntlet and stark gauntlet let you harness the power of the stones. With those anyone can do the snap, but only extremely powerful beings can survive it.
Tony clearly paid the price for using the power
Yeah, this is more egregious to me than Tony surviving long enough to use the Stones a single time.
That was just the power stone. People have been shown holding the other stones.
He should have said "We are the Avengers" instead of "I am Ironman".
That would have been a better closure to his arc, that it's not all about him, that it's the team.
That would have been a better closure to his arc, that it's not all about him, that it's the team.
In fairness, this is simply not true. The Aether was literally killing Jane in Thor 2, and GotG suggests this is the case with all of the Infinity Stones.
Did the team snap? No.
Where Marvel to snap?
Where was Strange to undo his damage?
Well, it's a good thing that you aren't the one writing these movies.
Well, he was aided by Rocket and Bruce, wasn't he? Throw enough tech geniuses at something and you can accomplish anything.
I was under the impression it was killing her because it was inside of her. Haven't they touched the space stone and time stone several times?
She told Tony from IM1 that he could kill himself doing things in the suit one day. She didn't want it to happen, but I think she knew the risks of what he did as a hero.
she was being strong for tony in his last moments, she loses it when he passes
She was just thinking about all those cheeseburgers that Happy was going to stuff down her daughter's gullet.
In the comics you don't, but the Russos and Feige talked about how they made the conscious decision to add the requirement of snapping to use all the stones in order to create tension in scenes such as the fight scene on Titan, when Thanos was in Wakanda, and the end of Endgame.
Energy required to revive trillions of beings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>energy required to dust a couple thousand Chitauri, Outriders, and Grimace
Yeah, but the Time Stone only appeared well after Guardians 1, and the Tesseract was revealed to be a Space Stone later. Basically retcons.
I mean in comics the gauntlet was just the glove Thanos happen to be wearing when he got the gems. Nothing special about it.
She accepted it in the conversation they had st the house, when Tony first cracked time travel. She knew he was going to do everything he could to help reverse Thanos' victory, at whatever cost to himself. She knew he couldnt really rest if he could still help people and chose not to.
No one ever actually physically touches the Time Stone, it seems to float near their hand but no closer, likewise we only see Thanos hold the Space Stone outside of its Tessaract housing (at first it seemed deadly to touch in CA: TFA as Red Skull disappeared from holding it in his hand but now it seems it was specifically attacking him rather than inherently deadly to touch). Hawkeye holds the Soul Stone in his bare hand to zero effect so clearly some are fine to touch.
this is the answer for most discussions about plotholes or bad writing. It's just a movie.
also why the fuck do you have to snap your fingers to activate the stones? What if you had no fingers?
It was for dramatic effect.
But if we're going to argue it out, you could see the stones power coursing through Tony's whole suit - it took a few moments for the energy to begin to bleed out of the suit and crawl across his skin, and that is where he began to have trouble breathing. And struggled to say his final words.
Plus there's the whole point, related to dramatic effect of "I am Iron Man". It was a demonstration of Tony's pure will to not be defeated. He literally had an iron will - more will than Banner as the Hulk.
But if we're going to argue it out, you could see the stones power coursing through Tony's whole suit - it took a few moments for the energy to begin to bleed out of the suit and crawl across his skin, and that is where he began to have trouble breathing. And struggled to say his final words.
Plus there's the whole point, related to dramatic effect of "I am Iron Man". It was a demonstration of Tony's pure will to not be defeated. He literally had an iron will - more will than Banner as the Hulk.
They really shouldn't have relied on it so much though. Having him need to focus for a second or two while the stones start to light up and activate would have allowed for the same tension. A game of thumb wars to decide the fate of the universe just looks goofy.
I assume the suit shielded him from some of the energy the stones were kickin' out. Then the snap fried him.
I also think that in that moment, he just had the will to wield them.
I also think that in that moment, he just had the will to wield them.
Also, he originally didn't say anything. The movie very well could have ended with Tony screaming as he snaps his fingers. The "I am Iron Man" line was a suggestion from the editor, the Russos and Feige lost their shit and they immediately went to go reshoot that moment. But that line doesn't have the same power if it's cushioned in a bunch of pained screaming.
Not only did it eventually kill him but it immediately put him into a real state of shock. His eyes were glazed over and he couldn't speak.
I think this makes the most sense when he doesn't even use the Tech Gauntlet, he just puts the stones into his suit.
As others have pointed out, Tony was able to sustain all that for dramatic effect and to have him utter a cool one liner. Not a bad decision at all since it paid off so well.
If you want an in-universe explanation, his suit protecting him/absorbing part of the stone's power and him only trying to kill Thanos and his army was considerably less complicated than trying to bring back half of all life in the universe and Black Widow. Not to mention Tony died.
If you want an in-universe explanation, his suit protecting him/absorbing part of the stone's power and him only trying to kill Thanos and his army was considerably less complicated than trying to bring back half of all life in the universe and Black Widow. Not to mention Tony died.
The OPs point is that if this was consistent with what happened to Hulk, he would've died before he had to the chance to do anything.
What is with people and nitpicking movies lol
Pretty much. There's a bunch of completely valid explanations in this thread mind you, but this is what it comes to down to. And the movie is absolutely all the better for it.
Pretty much. There's a bunch of completely valid explanations in this thread mind you, but this is what it comes to down to. And the movie is absolutely all the better for it.
