people will simply purchase guns from surrounding states and bring them into Cali. then when shootings continue the right will say, "see? gun laws don't work!" we need federal laws.
almost sounds like you think it will have zero effect
people will simply purchase guns from surrounding states and bring them into Cali. then when shootings continue the right will say, "see? gun laws don't work!" we need federal laws.
i know it will have an effect and would probably reduce gun violence in the state of california. but it would not eliminate it and people in other states would use that fact to prevent any regulations in their own state.
I was at SDCC last week. That sounds extremely scary.The MLB ballpark here, Petco Park, is surrounded by windowed highrises. Someone could copycat the Las Vegas shooter here any time.
This will definitely happen but it will very likely also have some positive effect. Gun crime will decrease an that area, by a low percentage at first, but it's something you can point to as evidence (apart from the numerous international examples such as Australia). Some progressive state needs to make the first step at some point. Change obviously is not coming from the top because the NRA has half of America's politicians in their pockets.people will simply purchase guns from surrounding states and bring them into Cali. then when shootings continue the right will say, "see? gun laws don't work!" we need federal laws.
nope. unfortunately I'm pretty confident that the current supreme court would overturn any gun restriction that'd do a lick of good.
If Sandy Hook didn't wake them up nothing will. I think even if their children's schools were shot up they'd still offer thoughts and prayers, or worse deny it even happened in the first place.A six year old kid? Come on man.
And Congress still won't do a fucking thing. Makes my fucking blood boil.
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Do we know if the gunman was just spraying and caught the kid without deliberately aiming at him or did he take aim and kill a child on purpose?
Not that it makes much difference but for some reason I want to know.
If Sandy Hook didn't wake them up nothing will. I think even if their children's schools were shot up they'd still offer thoughts and prayers, or worse deny it even happened in the first place.
There was a comment earlier in the thread from a woman that said that she saw a guy walking and spraying left to right and right to left. The boys mom and grandmother getting hit in the hands and leg would suggest that the gunman was certainly aiming lower in order to hit them there and to hit a little kid.
I don't think the security circus is going prevent an attack like this. What's a couple beeps on a metal detector when you're already geared up with assault rifle, body armor etc.pretty much every single large event is going to need massive security. I was at quakecon and we had bag checks, police everywhere, and metal detectors. This is gonna be needed everywhere pretty soon.
It's always too late. Unless the shooter somehow misses there will always be a body count before it's stopped.This festival supposedly had a heavy police presence and still was able to inflict carnage. While I'm sure it helped in preventing it from being worse, it still doesn't hit the raw fact that you have a "good guy" with a gun at location and still can't stop multiple people being shot in seconds with modern firearms. Just horrible for all those involved, especially that boy's family. RIP.
They apparently stopped him within 30 seconds. That's great, but unfortunately you can do a lot of damage with a firearm in thirty seconds.This festival supposedly had a heavy police presence and still was able to inflict carnage. While I'm sure it helped in preventing it from being worse, it still doesn't hit the raw fact that you have a "good guy" with a gun at location and still can't stop multiple people being shot in seconds with modern firearms. Just horrible for all those involved, especially that boy's family. RIP.
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Is there any more info on the possible 2nd shooter? Are the local police still working on this assumption?
If Sandy Hook didn't wake them up nothing will. I think even if their children's schools were shot up they'd still offer thoughts and prayers, or worse deny it even happened in the first place.
A friend and I were talking about this not too long ago, about how America loves guns more than their own kids. We came to the conclusion that it would take a mass shooter to start shooting up dog kennels for the NRA to start caring about people's lives.
Meanwhile on Twitter, the right has convinced themselves that the shooter was a Democrat, like "all mass shooters".
This festival supposedly had a heavy police presence and still was able to inflict carnage. While I'm sure it helped in preventing it from being worse, it still doesn't hit the raw fact that you have a "good guy" with a gun at location and still can't stop multiple people being shot in seconds with modern firearms. Just horrible for all those involved, especially that boy's family. RIP.
Statistically its almost always about the power trip. If theres more means for that power trip to be cut short and a higher chance of bullets coming back at them almost all individuals tend to buckle, doesnt matter much what they have which is why they tent to pick areas with the least resistance or the highest concentration of individuals to maximize damage in the least amount of time. Especially when individuals arnt geared up with assault rifles or body armor (and unless you want to go full north holywood, a plate carrier isnt going to stop a 5.56 in your gut from hurting), but semi-auto weapons and a chest rig which aint stopping shit.I don't think the security circus is going prevent an attack like this. What's a couple beeps on a metal detector when you're already geared up with assault rifle, body armor etc.
nope. unfortunately I'm pretty confident that the current supreme court would overturn any gun restriction that'd do a lick of good.