I came looking for this thread and it wasn't even in the first page of the home page of Etcetera. I wonder if this could hurt Trump's splash he wanted to do with his fucking emergency. Idiot.
You do realize that the vast majority of murders, and other gun crimes, are done by handguns, right?Wasn't this shooting carried out with a handgun? I mean, even if a miracle did happen, and all guns, bar handguns, were outlawed, it is scary that you could still carry out a mass shooting with one.
This is the country we live in now and it's ridiculous.
My daughter (11) had an evacuation today at school due to a written threat found in the bathroom. She texted me "this is not a drill, there's a chance I might die. I love you" and I had a hard time breathing. Luckily I was able to call her right away, but it's very upsetting
You do realize that the vast majority of murders, and other gun crimes, are done by handguns, right?
Just yesterday I was seeing a report on TV about Parkland, which made me bring up the fact that we hadn't had a mass shooting in a while and we were probably gonna have one any day now then this happened today. The sad reality, though, is that 5 dead doesn't really count as a "mass shooting" anymore. There has to be a lot more deaths for American to even react to it and then it'll only be for an extra day or two unless there's something extra noteworthy about said shooting because just death isn't noteworthy anymore.
The Virginia Tech Shooting in 2007.Of course, but I honestly didn't realise you could carry out such a horrifying mass shooting with one. I'm English - I don't understand guns.
Sadly, Parkland is old news. Since then we lost 11 in Pittsburgh in October and 12 in Thousand Oaks, CA in November.Just yesterday I was seeing a report on TV about Parkland, which made me bring up the fact that we hadn't had a mass shooting in a while and we were probably gonna have one any day now then this happened today.
When they didn't feel the blood after nearly 30 kids were murdered in sandyhook, that proved they never will.An hour away, fucking hell. I can't stomach this shit anymore, it's hit so close to home this time but it's breaking my damn heart every time no matter where it is.
How much longer can we realistically live like this? Even the worst of the scum politicians have to feel the blood dripping from their hands now.
This country has a 3 letter disease that needs to be eradicated
....RIP to the victims. This may be insensitive as fuck, but I really hope the suspect was white.
This is harrowing. I would have gone down to the school myself.... ugh.This is the country we live in now and it's ridiculous.
My daughter (11) had an evacuation today at school due to a written threat found in the bathroom. She texted me "this is not a drill, there's a chance I might die. I love you" and I had a hard time breathing. Luckily I was able to call her right away, but it's very upsetting
RIP to the victims. This may be insensitive as fuck, but I really hope the suspect was white.
When the color of a perpetrator is used as ammo for the depreciation of minorities by racists, then I don't see why I should seek help for saying that I hope he's white. There's literally nothing wrong with what I said.It's insensitive as fuck and you should feel ashamed saying it. Also seek help if you have this kind of thought again.
Well... the police identified the shooter as 45 year old Gary Martin and he is not white.When the color of a perpetrator is used as ammo for the depreciation of minorities by racists, then I don't see why I should seek help for saying that I hope he's white. There's literally nothing wrong with what I said.
Of course, but I honestly didn't realise you could carry out such a horrifying mass shooting with one. I'm English - I don't understand guns.
RIP to the victims. This may be insensitive as fuck, but I really hope the suspect was white.
yikes...RIP to the victims. This may be insensitive as fuck, but I really hope the suspect was white.
Wtf is this? Congratulations on being the the first piece of garbage I ignore on here.RIP to the victims. This may be insensitive as fuck, but I really hope the suspect was white.
Wasn't this shooting carried out with a handgun? I mean, even if a miracle did happen, and all guns, bar handguns, were outlawed, it is scary that you could still carry out a mass shooting with one.
When the color of a perpetrator is used as ammo for the depreciation of minorities by racists, then I don't see why I should seek help for saying that I hope he's white. There's literally nothing wrong with what I said.
RIP to the victims. This may be insensitive as fuck, but I really hope the suspect was white.
He got the gun legally...The issue isn't just about the gun but also how someone like Martin had access to one. According to police he'd been cited for multiple crimes before, including assault and battery.
If this guy had a history of violence, how was he still able to possess a firearm?
At the end of the day, the gun control argument can't and shouldn't be solely about the guns themselves. Though there's certainly arguments for why certain guns should be banned, the conversation also needs to be about access.
That is indeed insensitive. You don't even care about the victims. May they rest in peace. This shit will keep happening. Fuck the NRA flatout.RIP to the victims. This may be insensitive as fuck, but I really hope the suspect was white.
I work for a Fortune 500 company and had what amounted to a 'how to survive a mass shooting' online course today. That was something....new. We have these generic, repetitive courses about various things each year but this was outside the norm.
RIP to the victims. This may be insensitive as fuck, but I really hope the suspect was white.
Dude killed because he was fired? It doesn't take much to triggered a person, does it? How safe do you feel knowing people around you might be armed and one bad news could start the killing?
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"He seemed perfectly fine," White said. "I've seen him out there ... with his drones."
People who spoke to CBS Chicago described Martin as a loner.
"He always kept to himself," she said.
Neighbors were only familiar with Martin because of the time he spent outside, flying drones or working on his car, according to CBS Chicago.
"He would wave at us or stare at us. ... Kinda creepy," said Jaclyn White, another neighbor.
Authorities in the Chicago suburb said Martin was let go from his job at a manufacturing warehouse in Aurora Friday when he opened fire on his co-workers. He was a 15-year employee of the Henry Pratt Company, Aurora Police Chief Kristen Ziman said Friday.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...otout-gary-martin-police-officers/2890406002/Yes he did. Which then comes the question of when did he purchase the firearm? Was it before or after these incidents which required police to be called?
Is this a failure of the background check system or perhaps with our laws that allow people who've engaged in violent crimes to keep their firearms? These are questions that need to be asked in order to ascertain why we're letting people with histories of violence to possess deadly weapons.
Ziman told reporters that Martin had six prior arrests, including one in 2008 for a domestic matter and one in 2017 for disorderly conduct and criminal damage to property.
She said he had been issued an Illinois firearms I.D. and then purchased the Smith & Wesson handgun from a local dealer in March 11, 2014. The weapon was believed to be used in the rampage.
Five days later, when he applied for a concealed carry permit, his fingerprints turned up a felony conviction in Mississippi in 1995. At that point, the firearms I.D. permitting him to carry the handgun was revoked.
It's a failure in the system, hence, the need for gun control reform discussions."During the fingerprinting and background process it was discovered that he had a felony conviction for aggravated assault out of Mississippi," Ziman said. "It should be noted that this conviction would not have shown up on a criminal background check conducted for an FOID card."
RIP to the victims. This may be insensitive as fuck, but I really hope the suspect was white.
I don't understand your position even.Then we know of multiple issues with his access to a firearm then that should be something looked into when we're talking about writing gun control legistlation. For instance, why his firearm was still in his possession when his permit was revoked? Or why that conviction in Mississippi wouldn't have shown up in the background check.
Fundamentally all this shows is that the system is broken in regards to how people can have access to firearms.