Mass Effect Legendary Edition launches May 14 on PC (Origin/Steam), PS4 and Xbox One (with enhancements for PS5 and Xbox Series X|S)

Samiya · Feb 3, 2021

NottJim said:
ME1/ME2 femshep is the best. Receipts for proof.

This had better be an option.

It was so obvious that Bioware rushed the default femShepard for ME3 after the super embarassing fan poll thing they did. It is unfortunate, because the result is such a huge drop in quality compared to Sheploo.

Blade30 said:
I still don't understand how they went ahead with this face model in ME3 and now put her in the other two games as well, she looks too cartoony.

ME3 was a rush job and Bioware didn't allocate enough resources or time for making it properly in order to be part of the marketing campaign for default Femshep. The fan poll was part of this campaign and it was so embarrassing to witness.

Tortahegesztő · Feb 3, 2021

Sorry if this has been answeared already, but any news about FoV?
I remember having to use a mod for Mass Effect 3 because the tight fov and bouncing made me feel nauseous but you had to toggle it back during cutscenes, unless you wanted to see characters teleporting in and out and T posing at the edge of the scene.

N7Commander01 · Feb 3, 2021

Mass Effect 3 Femshep (and I don't know whether it was deliberate) looks way more like Jennifer Hale

EatChildren · Feb 3, 2021

I'm sure it's already been said, but the reasoning stated during the press call for excluding the multiplayer was due to prioritisation and their own expectations.

Single player was top priority, and they didn't want to port the multiplayer without being able to give it the same attention to detail in remastering, in addition to exploring things like cross play (which they consider an expectation) and progression transfer for players who sunk time into the ME3 build. They also would need to address if it would be ported as is, or if they'd explore continued updates.

They seemed genuinely positive about their thoughts towards the multiplayer, but ultimately decided to cut it as priorities for dev resources became clearer. Animation reworking was another factor; initially on the table, proved to be significantly more work than expected due to archaic tools that easily broke massive chunks of game from otherwise simple changes. Wasn't impossible, but proved to be too much work.

Stoney Mason · Feb 3, 2021

Tortahegesztő said:
Sorry if this has been answeared already, but any news about FoV?
I remember having to use a mod for Mass Effect 3 because the tight fov and bouncing made me feel nauseous but you had to toggle it back during cutscenes, unless you wanted to see characters teleporting in and out and T posing at the edge of the scene.

That's actually a good point. You should at least have that option for nex gen consoles.

Samiya · Feb 3, 2021

I hope we can still do the FlyCam and timestop commands to make our own photomode. It was pretty revolutionary back then to be able to have photomode in 2008 for ME1 PC and then with ME2 onwards.

tekomandor · Feb 3, 2021

Jarmel said:
Well Sovereign was a Capital class Reaper while most of the Reapers in their fleet were Destroyer class. Also he's the only Reaper that generally has that whole red lightning thing as I think it only reappears in the Destroy ending in ME3.

The red lightning is just a reaper mass effect field. Different tech bases have different colours (Protheans have green, for example).

Schlorgan · Feb 3, 2021

Lt-47 · Feb 3, 2021

Samiya said:
It was so obvious that Bioware rushed the default femShepard for ME3 after the super embarassing fan poll thing they did. I bet they just put their intern on the job, because the result is such a huge drop in quality compared to Sheploo.

ME3 was a rush job and Bioware probably put their intern on using the character generator to do something unique with it for the marketing campaign for default Femshep. The fan poll was part of this campaign and it was so embarrassing to witness.

It's a hand made model, just not a scanned actor like other major npc. And leave the interne alone for goodness sake even the best artist in world will do subpar job if they don't have enough time.

Deleted member 14568 · Feb 3, 2021

Thermal clip is superior so that's a shame

UglySofaGaming · Feb 3, 2021

I think it's a bad business decision leaving out the multiplayer. It's the sort of thing that is worth including for Mass Effect fans which won't have an alternative any time soon.

Much different to the Uncharted Collection where you don't want say Uncharted 2 MP holdout fans taking away from Uncharted 4

I think it could have done very well - and have set them up a bit better for a future multiplayer game / mode.

That all being said I'm not surprised and I'm still very happy to be getting this. I really wish Fallout 3 and New Vegas would get the same treatment but I don't see that ever happening.

Smoolio · Feb 3, 2021

Samiya said:
It was so obvious that Bioware rushed the default femShepard for ME3 after the super embarassing fan poll thing they did. I bet they just put their intern on the job, because the result is such a huge drop in quality compared to Sheploo.

ME3 was a rush job and Bioware probably put their intern on using the character generator to do something unique with it for the marketing campaign for default Femshep. The fan poll was part of this campaign and it was so embarrassing to witness.

What do you mean! Totally looks like the fan poll winner /s

The greater travesty for me was that ME2 femshep imports came out way worse then how they looked in ME2.

NottJim · Feb 3, 2021

I was playing around in the ME3 face editor and I think this is my favourite FemShep. As long as something like this is available I will be cool with the Legendary Edition.

Post your Shepards!

EatChildren · Feb 3, 2021

Smoolio said:
The greater travesty for me was that ME2 femshep imports came out way worse then how they looked in ME2.

From memory both male/female imports were broken, especially at launch. ME3's character launcher was busted and the first indicator the game was rushed.

Samiya · Feb 3, 2021

Lt-47 said:
It's a hand made model, just not a scanned actor like other major npc. And leave the interne alone for goodness sake even the best artist in world will do subpar job if they don't have enough time.

You are right my apologies for the hyperbole.

Staf · Feb 3, 2021

Thermal clip sucks!

Slaythe · Feb 3, 2021

EatChildren said:
From memory both male/female imports were broken, especially at launch. ME3's character launcher was busted and the first indicator the game was rushed.

Custom males can not look good in any mass effect.

They are fundamentally broken on a skull level. It's insane

EatChildren · Feb 3, 2021

Slaythe said:
Custom males can not look good in any mass effect.

They are fundamentally broken on a skull level. It's insane

While this is true, I remember with ME3 in particular the character import was broken on launch. From memory fans managed to build a tool or something that'd give you the right face code before BioWare fixed it themselves.

Blade30 · Feb 3, 2021

Slaythe said:
Custom males can not look good in any mass effect.

They are fundamentally broken on a skull level. It's insane

Any human characters/npc that weren't hand modeled or scanned after real life people look bad (mostly). Custom Shepards look like NPC's, i.e. Traynor from ME3 didn't look that much different from one of my Femsheps.

Deleted member 17184 · Feb 3, 2021

EatChildren said:
From memory both male/female imports were broken, especially at launch. ME3's character launcher was busted and the first indicator the game was rushed.

I remember a dev saying somewhere that imports didn't work as well in ME3 because they had to make some changes to the whole thing to include FemShep, so some values weren't the same.

The new unified chargen fixes that problem.

thepenguin55 · Feb 3, 2021

Lt-47 said:
It's a hand made model, just not a scanned actor like other major npc. And leave the interne alone for goodness sake even the best artist in world will do subpar job if they don't have enough time.

Smoolio said:
What do you mean! Totally looks like the fan poll winner /s

The greater travesty for me was that ME2 femshep imports came out way worse then how they looked in ME2.

So on PC at least it probably won't be long until you can play the remastered version with an improved version of the default ME3 femshep face. I say that because there's a mod on PC for the existing games that makes the ME3 default femshep face look a little less wild than it normally does:

The lighting in that image maybe isn't the best but compare it to how default ME3 femshep normally looks and it's a night and day difference.

In this image the top one is the remade ME3 femshep face and the bottom one is the original. (In case you were wondering the person who made this mod also made a mod that let you use ME3 femshep in the first two games)

Slaythe · Feb 3, 2021

EatChildren said:
While this is true, I remember with ME3 in particular the character import was broken on launch. From memory fans managed to build a tool or something that'd give you the right face code before BioWare fixed it themselves.

They had swapped / removed some options yeah.
The male CC looked like ass before and after so you were kinda forced to play Sheploo anyway.

But the female characters just looked completely different which was funny.
And a problem because that was your only option.

Blade30 said:
Any human characters/npc that weren't hand modeled or scanned after real life people look bad (mostly). Custom Shepards look like NPC's, i.e. Traynor from ME3 didn't look that much different from one of my Femsheps.

Do you remember when Miranda's twin sister ended up having a CC face ?

Lmao

JLP101 · Feb 3, 2021

I've always played as a male shepard, I will try female shepard with this version.

Samiya · Feb 3, 2021

I hope the hair meshes and their textures are much improved too.

Schlorgan · Feb 3, 2021

Smoolio · Feb 3, 2021

thepenguin55 said:
So on PC at least it probably won't be long until you can play the remastered version with an improved version of the default ME3 femshep face. I say that because there's a mod on PC for the existing games that makes the ME3 default femshep face look a little less wild than it normally does:

The lighting in that image maybe isn't the best but compare it to how default ME3 femshep normally looks and it's a night and day difference.

In this image the top one is the remade ME3 femshep face and the bottom one is the original. (In case you were wondering the person who made this mod also made a mod that let you use ME3 femshep in the first two games)

That is very nice, a lot more natural. Hoping for mods now for this plus the happy ending mod.

TheElderKing · Feb 3, 2021

Samiya said:
I hope the hair meshes and their textures are much improved too.

Yeah. I'd be interested in finally be able to create a decent looking Shepard, if they truly improved on those and the various options in the CC. Hopefully they'll showcase it before release.

Barnak · Feb 3, 2021

Samiya said:
I hope the hair meshes and their textures are much improved too.

Yeah, was never a fan of them, especially on women. Felt like they wore a wig made out of wood.

Probably why I always thought Jack looked better than other human in the games.

EatChildren · Feb 3, 2021

Blade30 · Feb 3, 2021

Slaythe said:
Do you remember when Miranda's twin sister ended up having a CC face ?

Lmao

Oh yeah I remember that. I was like, "Uhh what, that's her twin sister?"

Maximus Odinson · Feb 3, 2021

I hope they fixed Saren's appearance early game where he's got all the Reaper enhancements in the Council meeting and is like ''Geth? Why, I have no idea what you're talking about?''

TheElderKing · Feb 3, 2021

Blade30 said:
Oh yeah I remember that. I was like, "Uhh what, that's her twin sister?"

I wouldn't bet on that being fixed, but it's something I'd personally work to fix, if possible.

Galava · Feb 3, 2021

I just realized that many people that game nowadays were just around 8yo when ME3 came out, that are now 17.

So many people will play this trilogy for the first time with this release...

Garlador · Feb 3, 2021

dgrdsv said:
As I've said, the reasoning for the different styling can be sound as anything, it's an artistic preference, there are no "worse" or "better".
But this is a remaster, not a new game. It's not a product where you go and just change the style to your liking. It has to be close to the original.

They're changing a lot of style - including a significant amount of changes to ME1's gameplay, combat, UI, and inventory system. A selling point is that these elements will NOT be as close to the original as possible.

And it's a single skybox element, which is cracking me up. We're not talking about Tidus's face here.

Rover_ · Feb 3, 2021

Schlorgan said:

i just can't wait to see the full HUD and menus, inventory, codex and everything else :)

EatChildren · Feb 3, 2021

Galava said:
I just realized that many people that game nowadays were just around 8yo when ME3 came out, that are now 17.

So many people will play this trilogy for the first time with this release...

If we assume Dragon Age 4 won't launch until 2021/2022, and so Mass Effect Next won't launch until 2024/2025, there will be people turning 17 and 18 driving to pick it up who were only just born the year the first Mass Effect came out.

MarcelloF · Feb 3, 2021

Garlador said:
They're changing a lot of style - including a significant amount of changes to ME1's gameplay, combat, UI, and inventory system. A selling point is that these elements will NOT be as close to the original as possible.

And it's a single skybox element, which is cracking me up. We're not talking about Tidus's face here.

So you're gonna laugh at people unhappy with the changed Eden Prime and then instantly act like Tidus' face change was all that big? 😂

RR30 · Feb 3, 2021

Smoolio said:
That is very nice, a lot more natural. Hoping for mods now for this plus the happy ending mod.

What was the happy ending mod?

Yabberwocky · Feb 3, 2021

NottJim said:
On EA choosing the ME3 femshep model as the default model for ME1/ME2.

No, no, noooooo, nope.

ME1/ME2 femshep is the best. Receipts for proof.

This had better be an option.

The ME1 FemShep is still my favorite, she looks the most naturalistic. It's crazy how stylized her ME3 model is in comparison to the rest of the cast across the trilogy, even ME3 Ashley.

I don't mind how FemShep looks in the promo art (thought a little make-up heavy), it just didn't translate well to an in-game model.

I loved how both FemShep and Ashley looked in the CGI trailer, though, even with the heavy eye make-up. Ashley looks great in general, even without her trademark hair bun.

Poor Bioware. "We give you this gorgeous remaster, and you're going on about FemShep's ME3 face?" It's an old wound that has never healed, Bioware!

Slaythe said:
Custom males can not look good in any mass effect.

They are fundamentally broken on a skull level. It's insane

Always went with Sheploo* because of this. It was impossible to make a MaleShepard that looked good.

*There's a word that sound weird out of context, lol.

nihilence · Feb 3, 2021

How about a f2p ME3 mp? Crash or take off?

BossAttack · Feb 3, 2021

NottJim said:
Post your Shepards!

See avatar.

OzPrime · Feb 3, 2021

thepenguin55 said:
So on PC at least it probably won't be long until you can play the remastered version with an improved version of the default ME3 femshep face. I say that because there's a mod on PC for the existing games that makes the ME3 default femshep face look a little less wild than it normally does:

The lighting in that image maybe isn't the best but compare it to how default ME3 femshep normally looks and it's a night and day difference.

In this image the top one is the remade ME3 femshep face and the bottom one is the original. (In case you were wondering the person who made this mod also made a mod that let you use ME3 femshep in the first two games)

She looks like one part Elle (Last of Us) and one part Elizabeth (Bioshock Infinite).

dgrdsv · Feb 3, 2021

Garlador said:
They're changing a lot of style - including a significant amount of changes to ME1's gameplay, combat, UI, and inventory system. A selling point is that these elements will NOT be as close to the original as possible.

And it's a single skybox element, which is cracking me up. We're not talking about Tidus's face here.

Gameplay, combat and inventory system are not "style". UI to a degree maybe but this is mostly a functional design which changes with times as UI/UX have a tendency to progress with technology.
And yes, Tidus's face being changed would be a similar issue to the change of styling on Eden Prime. I don't see why these would be any different.

SofNascimento · Feb 3, 2021

Schlorgan said:

"Core mechanics mentained" was everything I didn't want to read, since that makes it impossible to truly fix what's wrong with ME1's gameplay. That said, all the other changes can definitely make ME1's more pleasant to play, and that's a very good thing.

Garlador · Feb 3, 2021

dgrdsv said:
Gameplay, combat and inventory system are not "style". UI to a degree maybe but this is mostly a functional design which changes with times as UI/UX have a tendency to progress with technology.
And yes, Tidus's face being changed would be a similar issue to the change of styling on Eden Prime. I don't see why these would be any different.

As a developer, I'll disagree. Gameplay, combat, and inventory absolutely contribute to a style. I've had so many long discussions on stuff like this.

And, yes, it's different, because Tidus is the MAIN CHARACTER and you see his face for the majority of your 100+ adventure. Not a single skybox seen for as shortly as 15 minutes that you leave behind.

gdt · Feb 3, 2021

Mr_Zombie said:
Doing *everything* in ME1 (every mission, every collectable etc.) takes ~30 hours. ME2 and ME3 (without DLCs) are about the same length.

Took me a lot longer than that.

Anjoys · Feb 3, 2021

EatChildren said:

To be honest, this looks like a still from Source Filmmaker

Slaythe · Feb 3, 2021

Garlador said:
As a developer, I'll disagree. Gameplay, combat, and inventory absolutely contribute to a style. I've had so many long discussions on stuff like this.

And, yes, it's different, because Tidus is the MAIN CHARACTER and you see his face for the majority of your 100+ adventure. Not a single skybox seen for as shortly as 15 minutes that you leave behind.

He is wrong anyway. Tidus isnt just hideous, they destroyed the facial animations entirely as well so none of the characters emote properly. Insanity of a botched job.

Smoolio · Feb 3, 2021

RR30 said:
What was the happy ending mod?

MEHEM The Mass Effect 3 Happy Ending Mod

MEHEM is a reinterpretation of the endings of Mass Effect 3, which introduces quite a few changes to the game's finale and - as the title suggests - will result in a brighter outcome for Commander

www.nexusmods.com

Credit to texhnolyze for making me aware of it top of the last page.

Bee.Cups · Feb 3, 2021

I'm really looking forward to this, it's a shame the Pinnacle station dlc isn't in, but there's still so much content.

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