Masashi Kishimoto new series, Samurai 8 is a dud (UP: Cancelled)

Mik317 · Mar 16, 2020

I enjoyed the first volume that just released in the us.

But yeah shit is cluttered and has too much lore so it bombing out is not a surprise.

I have always thought Kishi took the wrong message from Narutos success tho. It was at it best when Naruto was kinda shit and had to make due with that.... but then by midway he was ninja Jesus and everyone had giant ninja stands. The series was at its best when it was low key imo and while I enjoyed the first volume of this, it suffers from similar issues without the good will of knowing these characters at all. Hachimaru goes from broken scared brat to generic shonen lead like that.....

Curler · Mar 16, 2020

I don't get Twitter comments saying how this series blows their mind. Every new chapter is "OMG BEST CHAPTER YET!!!" I'm sorry, I just don't. I would say bots but... why?

I'm guessing that if WSJ doesn't go on a temp hiatus, in the next week or so we will see a "2 chapters left!!" announcement.

AoM · Mar 16, 2020

Curler said:
I don't get Twitter comments saying how this series blows their mind. Every new chapter is "OMG BEST CHAPTER YET!!!" I'm sorry, I just don't. I would say bots but... why?

I'm guessing that if WSJ doesn't go on a temp hiatus, in the next week or so we will see a "2 chapters left!!" announcement.

Big Kishimoto/Naruto fans and those who want it to be a hit so they can prove the "haters" wrong.

As for a break, we know Kishimoto is taking a vacation/break soon (mentioned it in an author comment), but we'll see whether it's just a one/two-week break or the series actually ending.

Curler · Mar 16, 2020

AoM said:
Big Kishimoto/Naruto fans and those who want it to be a hit so they can prove the "haters" wrong.

As for a break, we know Kishimoto is taking a vacation/break soon (mentioned it in an author comment), but we'll see whether it's just a one/two-week break or the series actually ending.

I kind of figured it might be some hardcore fans. Doesn't matter if westerners are all into it anyways, it had its chance.

That "break" may just be after it ends. Guess we will see shortly.

Pendragon_1095 · Mar 16, 2020

AoM said:
Big Kishimoto/Naruto fans and those who want it to be a hit so they can prove the "haters" wrong.

As for a break, we know Kishimoto is taking a vacation/break soon (mentioned it in an author comment), but we'll see whether it's just a one/two-week break or the series actually ending.

Or people actually enjoy it...

AoM · Mar 16, 2020

Pendragon_1095 said:
Or people actually enjoy it...

Never said there aren't people who actually enjoy it.

As Curler specified, talking about those who say every chapter is a 10/10, best chapter yet, and refuse to be critical of any aspect of the series.

TheLucasLite · Mar 16, 2020

Pendragon_1095 said:
Or people actually enjoy it...

Not enough people to keep it from cancellation, it seems.

Uzumaki Goku · Mar 16, 2020

Does this not bode well for Kubo?

Modest_Modsoul · Mar 16, 2020

I read the latest translated chapter (43?) and the art is...

OK?

At least it's not a 'mess' like early chapters...

StrangeRoboMemory · Mar 16, 2020

It's not as bad as some folks say, but it's definitely cluttered both in terms of art and story, and very generic. I like the character designs, though, and in theory I'd like to see more sci-fi stories in Jump.

Dale Copper · Mar 16, 2020

Curler said:
I don't get Twitter comments saying how this series blows their mind. Every new chapter is "OMG BEST CHAPTER YET!!!" I'm sorry, I just don't. I would say bots but... why?

I'm guessing that if WSJ doesn't go on a temp hiatus, in the next week or so we will see a "2 chapters left!!" announcement.

1. Twitter user being...well Twitter users.

2. Hardcore Kishi fans.

3. People just enjoy it.

flaxknuckles · Mar 16, 2020

Saifu said:
I wonder what Kishimoto is going to do after Samurai 8 gets cancelled?
Try making something else?
Aside from Boruto, Go back to expanding Naruto lore/universe somehow?
Rage quit on the manga industry completely?

He should make a Naruto prequel with a Mist ninja protagonist and this time keep the focus on tactics and not Gundam Ball Z shenanigans.

RochHoch · Mar 16, 2020

With a couple of the new series in Jump seemingly having made the cut (Undead Unluck is definitely safe, Mashle and Agravity Boys seem like they're hanging in there) it's no wonder why Samurai 8 is finally getting cut loose right now.

Pendragon_1095 · Mar 16, 2020

AoM said:
Never said there aren't people who actually enjoy it.

As Curler specified, talking about those who say every chapter is a 10/10, best chapter yet, and refuse to be critical of any aspect of the series.

This behavior isn't exclusive to Samurai 8 fans so I don't get why this had to be pointed out.

TheLucasLite said:
Not enough people to keep it from cancellation, it seems.

And? still has fans.

Deleted member 7051 · Mar 16, 2020

The latest chapter was pretty dope, even if it made literally no sense and confused the shit out of me several times.

🤔

KingM · Mar 16, 2020

Uzumaki Goku said:
Does this not bode well for Kubo?

If his series is popular he has no worries. Everyone has a flop at some point.

Pendragon_1095 · Mar 16, 2020

StrangeRoboMemory said:
It's not as bad as some folks say, but it's definitely cluttered both in terms of art and story, and very generic. I like the character designs, though, and in theory I'd like to see more sci-fi stories in Jump.

Too much exposition and the art seemed unfocused. I wish the art direction followed Kishi's grittiness from his own sketches.

Deleted member 4783 · Mar 16, 2020

RochHoch said:
With a couple of the new series in Jump seemingly having made the cut (Undead Unluck is definitely safe, Mashle and Agravity Boys seem like they're hanging in there) it's no wonder why Samurai 8 is finally getting cut loose right now.

How the FUCK did Undead Unluck made the cut???? Fucking hell.

AoM · Mar 16, 2020

Pendragon_1095 said:
This behavior isn't exclusive to Samurai 8 fans so I don't get why this had to be pointed out.

Not to this degree, it seems like.

The argument is that it would have far fewer die hard followers if Kishimoto's name weren't on it. That's all many are saying.

Rushersauce said:
How the FUCK did Undead Unluck made the cut???? Fucking hell.

The skeevy moments aside (which are lessening in frequency), it's a pretty good series, and the author is one of the few newbies recently who actually seems like he has a plan and knows what he's doing.

Mandos · Mar 16, 2020

Rushersauce said:
How the FUCK did Undead Unluck made the cut???? Fucking hell.

Last issue just established the laws of the world and it's an interesting setup, I get the feeling that series is in for some interesting world building

StrangeRoboMemory · Mar 16, 2020

Pendragon_1095 said:
Too much exposition and the art seemed unfocused. I wish the art direction followed Kishi's grittiness from his own sketches.

Yeah, ultimately can't disagree.

Lotus · Mar 18, 2020

Rouk' · Mar 18, 2020

It's over

Tace · Mar 18, 2020

Big oof

Brazil · Mar 18, 2020

Feels kinda bad tbh.

What an awful series.

fontguy · Mar 18, 2020

Oh wow.

Fat4all · Mar 18, 2020

Lotus said:

well that lasted

WrenchNinja · Mar 18, 2020

Lotus said:

F

Bard · Mar 18, 2020

Damn lmao.

Alanood · Mar 18, 2020

Why do I find this funny...

Steven · Mar 18, 2020

Where Kishi dies, Kubo will rise.

Semajer · Mar 18, 2020

Saifu said:
I wonder what Kishimoto is going to do after Samurai 8 gets cancelled?
Try making something else?
Aside from Boruto, Go back to expanding Naruto lore/universe somehow?
Rage quit on the manga industry completely?

Didn't he have a mafia manga/one shot that people were speculating would be his next work before S8 was announced?

BassForever · Mar 18, 2020

Series was garbage glad it's dead

Now to see how bad Kubo's new series is

so1337 · Mar 18, 2020

Whoa. Shueisha is ruthless.

Ricelord · Mar 18, 2020

BassForever · Mar 18, 2020

so1337 said:
Whoa. Shueisha is ruthless.

Samurai 8 had been a charity case for months now, were it not written by Kishimoto it would have been canceled around chapter 20 like most bombs are.

Kain · Mar 18, 2020

He'll become J K Rowling

Hamchan · Mar 18, 2020

so1337 said:
Whoa. Shueisha is ruthless.

They were too generous with this series.

PRrambo_ · Mar 18, 2020

Kishi has always been shit, his editors salvaged Naruto but even that got awful after the Pein arc IMO

Fat4all · Mar 18, 2020

so1337 said:
Whoa. Shueisha is ruthless.

sometimes you beg for the ref to call it

Daysean · Mar 18, 2020

PR_rambo said:
Kubo has always been shit, his editors salvaged Naruto but even that got awful after the Pein arc IMO

Since when were you under the impression that you were discussing Kishimoto?

so1337 · Mar 18, 2020

BassForever said:
Samurai 8 had been a charity case for months now, were it not written by Kishimoto it would have been canceled around chapter 20 like most bombs are.

I mean, yeah, but the man gave them one of their worldwide bestsellers and they still pull the plug this unceremoniously. It's pretty crazy to me.

I suppose it's only fair to lesser known authors for that slot to open up though.

Fat4all said:
sometimes you beg for the ref to call it

Yeah, maybe you're right.

PRrambo_ · Mar 18, 2020

Daysean said:
Since when were you under the impression that you were discussing Kishimoto?

My b, I mixed them up its 5 in the AM here

Mifec · Mar 18, 2020

so1337 said:
Whoa. Shueisha is ruthless.

I mean a hack like Kubo is getting to write stuff again so idk.

pochi · Mar 18, 2020

Back to Naruto Shippuden Part 3!

Alanood · Mar 18, 2020

pochi said:
Back to Naruto Shippuden Part 3!

Grandpa Naruto!

BassForever · Mar 18, 2020

Alanood said:
Grandpa Naruto!

Boruto's Son's Grandfather

Raxus · Mar 18, 2020

so1337 said:
I mean, yeah, but the man gave them one of their worldwide bestsellers and they still pull the plug this unceremoniously. It's pretty crazy to me.

I suppose it's only fair to lesser known authors for that slot to open up though.

Yeah, maybe you're right.

I mean. The volume sales were DREADFUL and SJ is at a point where they have several smash hits and some promising up starts. Clearly name recognition only gets you so far and fresh faces seem to be putting in work.

so1337 · Mar 18, 2020

Mifec said:
I mean a hack like Kubo is getting to write stuff again so idk.

I bet this cancellation has Kubo shook. Oh, you made Naruto? FUCK YOU. CANCELLED.

Raxus said:
I mean. The volume sales were DREADFUL and SJ is at a point where they have several smash hits and some promising up starts. Clearly name recognition only gets you so far and fresh faces seem to be putting in work.

That's fair.

Mifec · Mar 18, 2020

so1337 said:
I bet this cancellation has Kubo shook. Oh, you made Naruto? FUCK YOU. CANCELLED.

Well he's certainly gonna have to up his game and not release the dross he had been for years prior to Bleach "ending".

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