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Marvel's 'Black Panther' Sequel Shoot to Begin in July, Fate of Protagonist Unclear
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As long as they don't cg him, which I am 100 percent sure Feige would not do, then I am okay with whatever they decide to do and I expect them to handle this delicately
Personally I am hoping for a recast. The character is so important for so many people
Personally I am hoping for a recast. The character is so important for so many people
If they're going with a recast, I can't see anyone who would fit better than Yahya Abdul-Mateen
Right? How does it make sense to not go with Okoye, Shuri, or just straight recasting him, but somehow a multiverse version of Killmonger is what should be done?
Y'all act like she can't train or something
She has the best mind in the MCU. And she'll have, or will replicate, the abilities that the Black Panther posseses. The suit alone is amazing. Okoye is the best warrior in Wakanda as well, and could easily train her. Between all that, the implication that it'd be near impossible to make Shuri a believable formidable fighter makes no sense. It ain't that hard to figure out.
Because the T'Challa character played by Boseman should not be replaced. It's too iconic. No one would be able to measure up and would always be compared to Boseman. Besides, no other character in the story has been built up to replace him so far, so it would be far easier to replace him with another actor in the same role from another universe. Would it be cheap? Maybe, but it would be much easier to explain from a continuity standpoint.
I'm glad the suits at Disney don't gaf what Era thinks, all these calls to just recast him. Cold ass people in here. Let Shuri take the mantle up. The meaning and idea of Black Panther isn't tied to T'Challa, did y'all even watch the first movie??
Why not go the extra mile and cancel the second movie/character? Obviously no one can fill the role.
It is true though that a SECOND movie of "character grieving an important loss in their family has to become the new Black Panther and rule of Wakanda" in a row would feel pretty rote. Obviously Coogler is talented enough to be able to find a way to do it, but it would still feel repetitive at its core.
My thought too. The movie was always going to shoot next year, so the fact that that schedule is carrying on must mean they're recasting.
I'm just not a fan. It just seems weird. I'd rather a Dora Milaje take up the mantle or something
Shuri shouldn't be the new black panther, if for nothing else, she would get her teeth kicked in during the trial by combat.
Either recast Tchalla or have okoye or M'Baku be the new one.
Either recast Tchalla or have okoye or M'Baku be the new one.
If that's the extent of your creativity to work around his death and your POV then yeah 100% I'm really glad you have zero hand in making the movie
Just delay the movie. They need at least another year or two to figure out how they want to move forward while honoring Chadwick.
How are people being cold by suggesting/making peace with the possibility of recasting? Weird assumption to make.
And if anything, those "suits" are the most likely to be cold about all this
I don't agree at all because the circumstances are unique and extreme. No one is going to dare call it "rote" come on now
This. It's fucking nuts that people just want the character to disappear.
Boseman did a great job, but the character existed before him, and it should exist after him.
Reminds me of when Andy Whitfield got cancer and knew he couldn't continue with Spartacus. He gave his blessing before he died for someone else to play the character because he said the story was too important to not be told.
I'd be astonished if a recast was ever on the cards.
They really do have to steer into the skid on this one- this movie needs to, on some thematic level, be about the difficulty of continuing when the star of the show is no longer with us, or else it runs the risk of leaving the audience behind.
They really do have to steer into the skid on this one- this movie needs to, on some thematic level, be about the difficulty of continuing when the star of the show is no longer with us, or else it runs the risk of leaving the audience behind.
I'm not sure that's really true? I feel like between Killmonger usurping the throne, neither Shuri or Nakia taking the heart-shaped herb, and M'Baku passing on it in favor of T'Challa, I'd say the movie was more leaning in the "T'Challa is the one true king" direction than a Spider-Verse style "anyone can wear the mask."
Frankly it'd be weird to me to not have a family member end up as the Black Panther. Like even in the scenario where Okoye took over for a bit, I would still expect her to eventually hand it off to Shuri.
I mean, don't get me wrong, they certainly have the opportunity to do some bold shit and go all in on Okoye or something. I just don't see it happening is all. Feels like the long term plan was gonna find a way to hand it off to Shuri one way or another.
I'm not ready yet. However, if they do decide to do it, they should go ahead and recast. You can do that and still move the plot forward with a new BP if they want to use
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I wonder if the sequel will address the Infinity War -> Endgame gap, because presumably either Okoye or M'Baku were ruling Wakanda during that time? Both T'Challa and Shuri were dead those five years.
Even if you argue it can't be okoye because she only serves the throne and wouldn't want to be the panther, Nakia is still better suited for the direct combat role that was expected of the Black panther.
In BP when the Queen mother and Shuri are there discussing what they should do with the herb, they literally say to Nakia she should be the one to take the herb rather than give it to M'Baku and the thought that Shuri would do so doesn't even enter in to the equation.
That might've been a interesting plotline if not for the fact that both Okoye and M'Baku would gladly let him rule again lol
I legit never thought about what was going on during this period till you brought it up
I find the notion of "just get it over with and recast him" kind of callous tbh, even if I know that's not people's intention.
If it were a simple a/b choice of recast or end the film series, recasting would be the better option, but there are plenty of more interesting choices that can in my opinion honour Chadwick's legacy more. To see someone else take up the mantel, inspired by T'Chala, would be much more respectful than just hiring another actor that kinda looks like him and pretending nothing happened.
If it were a simple a/b choice of recast or end the film series, recasting would be the better option, but there are plenty of more interesting choices that can in my opinion honour Chadwick's legacy more. To see someone else take up the mantel, inspired by T'Chala, would be much more respectful than just hiring another actor that kinda looks like him and pretending nothing happened.
They have to recast T'Challa eventually. They may not be interested in doing it for Black Panther 2 given the circumstances, but it has to happen. T'Challa is just too integral to BP/Marvel lore for it not to happen. The comic book material doesn't allow for him to be just written out. Even with the Shuri being Black Panther part wouldn't make sense given the way that story is told in the comics.
Personally as much as I love Chadwick and each of his performances I think the character needs to be recast.
He's too important to be disappeared so early in his run when there is a lot of room for the character to progress.
He's too important to be disappeared so early in his run when there is a lot of room for the character to progress.
I don't want Nakia. To be frank, it makes no sense to me to have her be BP over the two more prominent Wakandans in the MCU. Maybe if she wasn't absent for both Infinity War and Endgame I'd feel differently.
Also in-universe, Okoye is the superior warrior, and I doubt she'd want to get in the way of tradition where Shuri would be next in line. Even then, we already have M'Baku as a character that's already shown a desire for the throne. Nakia on the other hand isn't interested in all that.
So yea, I'd pick one of those 3 characters before picking her if I had to choose.
Yeah, the other route would have him dying off screen or going off to get married or something. Both wouldn't make much sense. I know recast isn't what folx want, but it might be the most seamless option.
I feel the best option would basically be a reflection of this very thread. Who should be the next Black Panther? What does being the Black Panther mean, not just to the person wearing the suit but also to the world/audience?
So you'd have a story where Shuri, Okoye, M'Baku, and Nakia are all trying to honor the man and the mantle.
BLACK PANTHER 2...and then the "2" flips to an "S".
So you'd have a story where Shuri, Okoye, M'Baku, and Nakia are all trying to honor the man and the mantle.
BLACK PANTHER 2...and then the "2" flips to an "S".
I did say before the best way to show the impact of Chadwick, T'Challa and BP would be to have a pre-Marvel ident documentary montage covering the death of the King of Wakanda after a sudden illness. Use that time to cover his accomplishments and have some real life reactions about what Chadwick meant to people. Let black people tell what Boseman meant to them before cutting to an empty throne.
The next movie will be about multiple Black Panthers and which of them can be the successor Wakanda needs for the future. With no Heart Shaped Herb they will need to show their own bravery.
Nah I think that'd be too weird, having the villian's face, even if they explain it in the story.
As much as killing him off screen would suck, I think recasting him would be worse. Maybe do something where you see him in his suit doing something heroic for his people and passing away, but I feel like recasting him would be rougher.
Also why would they let him be ruler, why is he going to a different universe to become king, etc.
Having multiple people running around as Black Panther would destroy the mystique of what it means to be Black Panther. Imagine a movie where you had three or four people all being Captain America. Gross.