That's what I had expected this game to have. If they're planning to have a lot of missions it's hardly going to work if each has its own queue
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Marvel's Avengers - Beta impressions
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Yeah really this would mainly be an issue for the areas that don't let you bring in the AI guys for the most part. Hope they info they gather from the beta will help them address the issues before more people experience it.
I don't see how the loop is any different from Destiny honestly. It seems like Destiny with 3rd person action gameplay instead of fps. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Destiny has elite fps mechanics, this has barely competent 3rd person brawling.
holy fuck this is literally there most "capitalism" game I have ever heard of in my life
Marvel loot GasS title for $60 retail
it's like a fucking AAA console mobile game
Marvel loot GasS title for $60 retail
it's like a fucking AAA console mobile game
Dang, I was hoping for some solid mechanics and encounters, over the years Destiny has evolved the genre quite a bit...
I think a lot factors into that. I think AAA development is hard. GaaS is hard. Dealing with a Marvel/Disney IP is hard. Trying to make an ambitious game is hard. Also I think Bungie is just good at it because they're two games and a bunch of expansions in. Plus this game and Destiny just aren't going for the same thing (even if they share that GaaS label).
Many of the previews thought the action felt weighty and pretty good. Some said it felt button mashy on Hulk but then others disagreed. We really have to try it ourselves tbh.
I really wish this game had some big open-world hubs I could fly around in as Iron-Man. It'd be a day-one purchase just for that. Hopefully they add some later like Warframe's devs did.
also at least 15 bucks for a freaking skin in a FULL PRICED GAME .. wtf
Pay 90 bucks to play three days earlier on september 1... this game has checked all the boxes for maximum profit
Thank you so much for clarifying. I have no real hardcore experience with GaaS games, so hopefully this will be addressed if it becomes an issue. I hope Imran realizes that he is welcome here and that the hostility of some doesn't represent Era as a whole.Let me explain it you, since you've not played the game in question.
There's two ways to run a multiplayer mission in Marvel's Avengers. Either you have a group of friends already, or you queue up for a specific mission. In the latter case, what you're hoping for are teammates at your Power Level who are doing the same mission you are. In beta, this is somewhat trivial, as there's only 6-8 missions available, but even trying to queue up for the HARM rooms was a struggle.
Now as you scale up in beta, that's great, but in live, when you're talking maybe 80-100 missions, problems start to arise. You end up prizing content where the community as a whole currently is. For example, trying to run a friend through FF14 and do the Lakshmi trial was a nightmare because it was deprecated content that not many players ran. We waited in queue for quite a while, so a Trial that was required for story progression.
Now in most MMOs and online games, there's an option to queue up randomly. WoW has the Dungeon Finder. FF14 has the Duty Roulette (and gives incentives to players to queue for it every day), Destiny 2 has playlists. Call it Quick Play, call it whatever, it forces your entire community in a direction. Like so:
Destiny 2 also has open sections with world events. If you queue map for Mercury, eventually, you'll run into 2-3 other players tackling the same content. Organic groups can form.
Imran is pointing out that Marvel's Avengers lacks either option. You cannot just say, "I want to do a random mission tonight with some folks" and queue up for that. You have to pick a specific mission on your own and hope others are doing the same. The Division 2 has this problem as well—if a mission you need to run is not a weekly challenge, you'll find yourself waiting a long time in queue because the community is focused in a different direction.
There should be an option to go in a random queue pool, that will match you other players who have queued up to complete a specific mission. If you're queueing up to "Stark Realities" and I drop into the random queue, it'll match me up with you, instead of hoping someone else is also doing the same mission.
He sprints slow because the expectation with Hulk is that you'll be jumping. He's relatively slow, but his jump moves a great distance.
Forbes Paul Tassi held an AMA on the Marvel's Avengers reddit earlier:
Destiny is all about fashion and looking good. That's not in this game at all so I'll say it's much much worse off then destiny. Unless you got deep pockets for them $15 skins.
It's $70 on PS4 to play 3 days early, plus you get 1000 credits of the premium currency. We don't yet know what the skins will actually cost in the full game so this take may be premature.
I mean combat reviews are not surprising to me, nailing one superhero is hard (Arkham series, latest Spidey) nailing bunch of them at the same time in the same gameplay environment must be absurdly difficult.
Skins cost 1500 credits which is 15 bucks
And wrong. You need the deluxe edition which costs 90 euros = 107 dollar to play 3 days early
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They touched on it a bit, but they do. Some of those hub worlds are meant for traversal and exploration.
That's what makes him good, he doesn't you know....fan boy things, dude is a good critic. I can say that full well knowing he has disliked things I have liked.
i think that MHWilliams post sums it up great.
There is a lot missing. Things we probably won't see until the first big expansion if Destiny and it's clones are anything to go by.
But I'm pretty sure this will have something more akin to a big campaign with setpieces and full plot. After the success of Spider-Man, I doubt Marvel wouldn't require this of any game with one of their biggest licenses.
Not sure if they revealed how long it is, but I remember their interviews implying there'd be a full story, so I really think the whole SF thing and the introduction of Ms. Marvel is just the beginning hours of something that should include an arc of the team coming back together and discovering the secret behind Captain America's apparent death.
The deluxe edition is $79.99 USD. And I'd happily take paid cosmetics for all future DLC to be free
It costs 90 euros, tax included. Still doesn't make it fair for regular pre orders to only be able to play 3 days after release ;)
I wasn't disputing the Euro price, you said it was $107 which is false. The PS4 exclusive digital edition is $69.99 USD as well which was also correct.
Destiny works by having several discrete open-world-style sections to play around in. When you jump into a planet, you're dropped randomly into an existing server with players. You can work on your own objectives, or organically work together with players to finish off world events. You can also run Strikes and PVP from the menu or hub area, which is shared between players as a social space.
Avengers is wholly discrete levels. You drop into a mission in a group of four, whether that's four players, or a combination of players and AI. There are War Zone missions that are longer, an operate somewhat like Destiny's larger maps, but you won't be meeting any other players, and completing the main mission objective closes out the mission, even if you haven't engaged with the other points of interest. Other missions are smaller, more linear experiences, around 10-15 minutes in length. When you finish a mission, you jump back to the War Table, or the Helicarrier, which is currently a wholly solo experience. Crystal Dyanmics has said there might be a social hub for players, but that's not in beta.
Avengers is closer to Phantasy Star Online 2, rather than Destiny. Levels are meant to be a thing you jump into and complete, not a more open region to complete many, many objectives in.
I watched a couple of previews and still looks like a mess. Happy for those who like it, but nah. I think I'll play ultimate alliance on my switch since I've been putting it off since forever
I hope that just like Destiny, the game keeps getting not just heroes, but "events" like the comics. If the game manages to be an hybrid of coop and single player campaign this could become the Diablo of the next gen. The more I watch and read about this, the more excite I'm getting.
I'm about to read his AMA, need to get around his impressions on the article first.
Here's ours. 3000 words of deep diving.
Marvel’s Avengers Hands-On Preview – Avengers Assemble - PowerUp!
Going hands-on with Marvel's Avengers' beta marks the third time I've been able to play the game and the first that I've gotten a real sense of what it's all about. While previous hands-ons had focused on one character's combat abilities or the opening minutes of the game, this Marvel's...powerup-gaming.com
Just got around reading both these impressions after listening to podcast impressions the whole afternoon in the background and wow thanks for taking the time to share this with us. What impressing me is that even the problems that you both pointed seem to be stuff easily fixable. The more I read about this thing, the impression I'm getting is that this will become insanely huge, despite all the Spider-Man exclusivity controversy.
YoU caN EaRN CrEdITS bY PLAyiNg tHE gAMe!
Yeah, probably at a rate of 1500 a month if you no life it :(
C'mon now. I have this already paid for but are we really gonna get at people for being critical of a game? I want this game to be good. But we don't need to be hostile to those with a different opinion.
I spent the equivalent of a full retail game after quarantine started playing GTA Online with my friends. Spending a shitload of money on this game is not beneath me.
That's obviously because it's old and it creates goodwill. Once they have their "new shit" they will try to sell it as hard as they can because they literally thrive on that money right now.
I believe that for sure, they need that eververse monies lol. I hope they don't go back but really can't see it.
Tassi seemed to like it. He said he is a hardcore Destiny player so he hopes he won't have to invest as much time in this to unlock stuff but he said he could see 100-200 in this game. It's so interesting seeing the different opinions on each hero. I had just seen a preview and the dude said how he didn't like Iron Man as much as others and here Tassi likes Iron Man most. I think you really need to level these guys a bit before they start to click fully. It just sounds like a fun romp tbh
The Marvel’s Avengers beta teases the superhero RPG I’ve always wanted
After 10 hours in the Marvel’s Avengers beta, I’m officially excited for the Avengers to assemble
www.polygon.com
Polygon's impressions are basically a rave. Less than 48 hours to the PS4 beta now!
As someone who love the genre (MonHunWorld and Destiny 2 are my most played game this gen), regardless on the game quality, the fact that you played as "fixed" characters is what prevent me from being excited for the game. I prefer having my own custom protagonist for these kind of games.
Funnily enough I would be excited for the game more if you play as custom superhero or custom Shield Agent lol.
Funnily enough I would be excited for the game more if you play as custom superhero or custom Shield Agent lol.
I thought it just shows up tomorrow? I pre-ordered digitally on PS4 and didn't get a code.
Depending on the rate of additional characters and story content, I'm not sure why I should be upset by this.
Yeah 40 levels. Im not too sure if the speed to unlocking the pass was sped up but it's actually quite easy and painless for the most part.
I went ahead and preordered. I just wanna smash stuff with Hulk. Definitely gonna try all the characters but Hulk in a suit is too good not to main.
