I don't doubt that we'll get another Marvel fighting game, but I really, really don't think Capcom is going to develop it.
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Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite - The most unfortunate timed release ever?
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Well they were only able to make SF5 because they partnered with Sony who helped with dev costs and MvCI seemed to also have a fairly low budget
Nobody's absolving Capcom of blame, or at least I hope not. But Marvel's hands weren't exactly clean, either.
I agree with everything in this thread and have nothing to add...
...except this. MVC4 please and with an announcement of MVC2 remaster with great online on all platforms.
...except this. MVC4 please and with an announcement of MVC2 remaster with great online on all platforms.
The entire capcom side was all about reuse. DMC3 Dante STILL being there was point enough of that.
Eh, I don't know.
If they released an Ultimate MvC:I that was prettier and had a better roster, I still wouldn't want it. I really dislike the gameplay.
I don't care how "creative" it is, I want 3v3 with assists, not a tag game.
Presentation helps, but Marvel 2 looks like shit. Roster helps, but I don't know half of the characters I play in Marvel games. I don't think Infinite fans are too far from the truth when they say that gameplay is all that matters, I just think they fail to realize that the gameplay didn't connect with a lot more people than they imagine.
There was a demo, people played it. If they thought the gameplay was that good, they'd get over the shitty graphics.
It hurts even more that DBFZ is trash, too. It was the chosen one to give us 3v3 with assists, but it sucks. :(
If they released an Ultimate MvC:I that was prettier and had a better roster, I still wouldn't want it. I really dislike the gameplay.
I don't care how "creative" it is, I want 3v3 with assists, not a tag game.
Presentation helps, but Marvel 2 looks like shit. Roster helps, but I don't know half of the characters I play in Marvel games. I don't think Infinite fans are too far from the truth when they say that gameplay is all that matters, I just think they fail to realize that the gameplay didn't connect with a lot more people than they imagine.
There was a demo, people played it. If they thought the gameplay was that good, they'd get over the shitty graphics.
It hurts even more that DBFZ is trash, too. It was the chosen one to give us 3v3 with assists, but it sucks. :(
The issue is that basically all fighting games are done at Division 2 these days, & I'm not sure of any instance where someone from one division jumped to help another. Likewise. as much as people hype up fighting games on the RE Engine, as interesting as it sounds, alternate costume revenue is one stream of cash that Capcom wouldn't want to close off.
not only that.. but do you guys remember this? this game was fucked from the start.
I have the MvC:I Chun statue proudly displayed in my MvC display cabinet.not only that.. but do you guys remember this? this game was fucked from the start.
When the casual or even core audiences see MVC3 as a 36 characters package that was developed from scratch, sold full price and was well worth it, it's really hard to sell them a remixed thing slapped with only 5 new characters and a bad UI. And Capcom should've seen that coming.
For me, as an X-Men fan, it was not the lack of X-Men or F4 that killed this game, it was the lack of new content. They could've introduced at least 20 new characters from the MCU alone, not even compared to the effort of base MVC3, and it would probably be successful. But they chose to include 5 and a bad Thanos and that's what they get.
If you want to sell numbers, you gotta sell artistic value, otherwise you're stuck being appreciated for you functions by a small competitive scene.
For me, as an X-Men fan, it was not the lack of X-Men or F4 that killed this game, it was the lack of new content. They could've introduced at least 20 new characters from the MCU alone, not even compared to the effort of base MVC3, and it would probably be successful. But they chose to include 5 and a bad Thanos and that's what they get.
If you want to sell numbers, you gotta sell artistic value, otherwise you're stuck being appreciated for you functions by a small competitive scene.
Things I liked about MVCI:
-Inclusion of X
-Base gameplay
Things I hated about MVCI:
-Dogshit graphics (this was and still is my #1 complaint with the game, ESPECIALLY when directly compared to DBFZ)
-Imbalanced stone system especially with the launch version of Reality stone
-Absolutely disappointing character roster on both the Capcom and Marvel side
-Complete lack of communication from Capcom about the game post-release
-Subpar voice acting on many characters
-Inclusion of X
-Base gameplay
Things I hated about MVCI:
-Dogshit graphics (this was and still is my #1 complaint with the game, ESPECIALLY when directly compared to DBFZ)
-Imbalanced stone system especially with the launch version of Reality stone
-Absolutely disappointing character roster on both the Capcom and Marvel side
-Complete lack of communication from Capcom about the game post-release
-Subpar voice acting on many characters
What's infuriating about Infinite is that I've wanted Monster Hunter to have a representative in a roster for the longest time and we get her and she's one of the most fun additions I've ever played. Then the game died. Maybe if it had gone free to play with the DLC to support it, it coulda maintained retention or something. Its just sad, cause I legit think its a fun game but I can't defend the graphics or that inexcusably bad soundtrack.
Disney have nothing to do with it. Marvel Games and Marvel Entertainment are the ones responsible for this thing. Same for the entire video game strategy.
It's not because Disney is the parent company that the things Marvel does are because of them. lol They're much more independent than let's say, Lucasfilms.
2012 "Near Bankruptcy" Capcom is different from 2019 "Record profits for 3 years straight" Capcom tho.
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For sure. It really is a massive shame. You're absolutely right, UMvV3 had such an amazing energy to it that is just fucking...gone. It's crazy how lifeless it is. Even shit like the voice acting is just worse in a lot of wayss.
UMvC3 is such a spectacular presentation piece in-game. They went from that to like the most husk-like thing ever. How. If this game literally just had the UMvC3 skin, it would be better received than it was.
Or you know people just really liked the game. If it had a presentation that compared to UMvC3 and they kept adding characters, I could've definitely seen myself playing it as long as UMvC3. It just wasn't as fun without those things. As others in the thread has said, those things actually end up being extremely important in a fighting game.
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I downloaded this on Windows as part of game pass but haven't tried it out yet. That being said, I'm a super casual fighter game player so I hope I can appreciate all the good things it does.
Yeah, i mean, i don't think we need a fighting game done in the RE Engine, nor that people will care anyway. As long as it happens, i'm fine if the stick to Unreal Engine or whatever
It's a really excellent fighting game and the most played fighting game between me and my friends when we get together. Last Sat we were playing MKXI and someone suggested to change to MvCI and we end up playing that until it was morning.
As a casual player, I feel like the story mode was more or less the only thing worthwhile in the game. And that all comes down to the, frankly, amazing pick of a fusion of Ultron and Sigma for the main villain. Ultron-Sigma is just a delight if you're a fan of hammy, cheesy, over-the-top villainy, and that is so very much my thing.
I mean the scene where Ultron and Sigma meet is basically them complimenting each other's code and deciding that organic life must be purged. With violence!
How can you not love a villain that hammy?
I mean the scene where Ultron and Sigma meet is basically them complimenting each other's code and deciding that organic life must be purged. With violence!
How can you not love a villain that hammy?
Its quite easy at least the art and visuals side if all you want to do is to make a "safe product" for the masses. They took away the distinctive look of comic book visuals, stripped out all the iconic themes from the marvel half of the cast and gave them some generic movie OST replacements, and slapped some shitty cinematic filter all over everything that made everything that looked bad look even worse.
Also didn't help that for some reason they decided the other half of the Villian boss duo would be DLC. The game is kind of repulsive in many ways with surface level issues.
The roster being small and the choice to go back to a 2v2 fighter killed any chance it had to gain a big following. It's a shame since the game is fantastic on a mechanics level, but fighters sell fighting games not mechanics.
I think one of the most perfect games to ever exist would be a Nintendo vs Capcom. Similar fighting system as the old-school Marvel vs Capcom games, but with Nintendo characters.
I liked the story, but it would've been so much better with characters like Wesker, Vergil, Dr. Doom and the X-Men. Missed opportunity.
MvCI took our cash and ran away with it. My only solace is I didnt buy the extra costumes.
They never did add X-men. Just completely frakked us over sideways and back
I eagerly await Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Hopefully these devs will have passion
They never did add X-men. Just completely frakked us over sideways and back
I eagerly await Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Hopefully these devs will have passion
It's crazy how much better the game looks if you just put the comic-line shader back on it, like MvC3 had.
I honestly think something was stripped out of the game at the last minute. The game's 3D models generally take very well to stylized rendering and it feels like they were awkwardly converted to a more realistic art style later in development.It's crazy how much better the game looks if you just put the comic-line shader back on it, like MvC3 had.
I generally like the gameplay, but for me, I love MVC3's gameplay mechanics and 3vs3. It also doesn't help that the game looks like butt, and I wished they continued with the art direction they had established with MVC3/UMVC3.
You wouldn't happen to have footage of this mod in action? I'm very tempted to use it myself.
LOL, nice.
If given the choice, what would you like to see in a MVC4?
It's crazy how much better the game looks if you just put the comic-line shader back on it, like MvC3 had.
You wouldn't happen to have footage of this mod in action? I'm very tempted to use it myself.
LOL, nice.
If given the choice, what would you like to see in a MVC4?
I'd happily take MvC Origins + MvC2 for modern systems and PC.
See nded's stuff above. There's a LOT of videos showing off the shaders in action.
LET'S FUCKING GO
WE NEED TO MAKE DREAMS HAPPEN AGAIN
Please someone bring the dreams back š
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I have 0 doubts that they planned more DLC for it, but was scrapped. Some characters in the game look fantastic (Jedah, Venom), while others are...well...youg et the idea