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Marvel to introduce a gay Captain America during Pride Month
- Thread starter HustleBun
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Because we have a surplus of the former and a deficit for the latter.
So much hate for this haircut! I've had this haircut a few times. XD
I'm pretty excited about this!
I'm pretty excited about this!
I don't flat out despise the look, but I'm not in love with it. I think it's mostly the flag tattoo rubbing me the wrong way.
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Nothin' beats the hobo life, stabbin' folks with my hobo knife.
I don't have any issues with the design. I wish I could pull off that haircut and overalls, but the baggy early TLC ones.
I don't have any issues with the design. I wish I could pull off that haircut and overalls, but the baggy early TLC ones.
You sure about that? Comics have a number of gay heroes now and all the ones I can think of off the top of my head are "straight-acting" enough to not make straight people uncomfortable. That's what creators tend to go with.
I think the most interesting thing for me here is the idea that certain groups in the modern day would want to be Captain America other than Rogers & then a few racists.
(Especially based on the reaction to the flag tattoo in this thread.)
I think this - and Falcon/Winter Soldier - will be super interesting in how it tackles what modern-day patriotism looks like from sexual/racial minorities.
I'll probably pick up this book solely out of interest there.
(Especially based on the reaction to the flag tattoo in this thread.)
I think this - and Falcon/Winter Soldier - will be super interesting in how it tackles what modern-day patriotism looks like from sexual/racial minorities.
I'll probably pick up this book solely out of interest there.
The thing that bothers me about his design is he dresses like a train runaway but has piercings like a Brooklyn hipster. Then again I don't interact with train homeless much so maybe this is just how they dress. The septum strikes me as a health hazard for the train life. Gets caught on things or gets dirty.
Isn't this similar to how America Chavez (aka Miss America) was created? She's a Latin-American lesbian raised by 2 mothers.
There's a difference between loud and proud and campy stereotype.
We've got a surplus of the latter, lot of LGBT folks I've seen want way more of the former. They'd like someone to be LGBT without having to covert suitcase it by.
Isn't this similar to how America Chavez (aka Miss America) was created? She's a Latin-American lesbian raised by 2 mothers.
Which reminds me; she needs more attention
But I'm with the other people expecting a Young Avengers show on D+
She's in a board game I have on the way from Kickstarter. I look forward to painting her miniature!
That's not what I mean. You don't understand, and that's fine.
Is Harley a superhero? I thought she was a supervillain, well I'm not the most up to date so sorry about it haha
And She-Ra is not what I'd call a superhero, not in the traditional sense at least, same way I dont really see he-man as a superhero.
She's showing up in Dr Strange 2 next year and had her new comic release last week. You're probably gonna gets lots of her moving forward.
Harley is certainly the protagonist in her show, but yeah not a clear hero. They cover the Harley/Ivy relationship with tact and grace in an otherwise untactful show.
She-Ra and He-man are just Shazam variants, certainly a superhero by some standards. The new She-Ra show isn't as explicit about the leads relationship for a while, but it makes for good storytelling.
I am heartened at the number of supernumerary LGBT characters in recent shows.
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Of course, and that group gets a lot more representation than the other group. I would like to be represented somewhat as well.
Again, where are you seeing this? How many overtly queer characters can you think of that aren't a stereotype? Corporations like Disney almost always make gay characters as "straight-acting" as possible to avoid offending the straights.
I wasn't talking about Disney but media in general. The only gay Disney character I can think of is Le Fou and that was done horribly. Disney is in it for virtue signaling.
There's a lot more between queer and "straight acting" (really hate this word BTW because there's no such thing) but we barely see that in media.
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Figie is now completely in charge of Marvel not just Marvel Studios.
Editor: "Make sure his name doesn't have three syllables"
Writer: "Why"
Editor: "Trust me..."
Since Marvel tends to be bad about pushing multiple teen characters at the same time, I guess that's it for the Patriot character Nick Spencer created.
I hope the character succeeds and is embraced but I also can't help but feel like it seems like every creator is trying to get their "young new hero" out the door.
I hope the character succeeds and is embraced but I also can't help but feel like it seems like every creator is trying to get their "young new hero" out the door.
I mean, hasn't that always been the case? Maybe not young but someone is always trying to make a new character a thing.
Everything makes me optimistic except the flag tattoo.
I understand the point of it, but no street kid I ever knew would've had just a regular old patriotic flag.
A minor quibble.
I understand the point of it, but no street kid I ever knew would've had just a regular old patriotic flag.
A minor quibble.
I legit didn't notice the start shaped tattoo at first, and was hoping someone else did
His design makes sense since it seems like he's a street kid, so of course he's not gonna have some special suit like Sam or Steve. I'm sure eventually he'll get his own special outfit.
yeah, the flag doesn't make sense to me, seems a little corny and on the nose.
Could be either show or movie. America will debut in DS2 and Stature as a hero proper in Ant-Man 3, while Kate, Eli, Billy and Tommy are all introed in shows. There's also Kamala and Riri, but who knows about them since they're not really part of the roster in the comics.
Steven Universe kinda sorta. Pearl, Ruby and Sapphire are major supporting characters, but they're basically leads. But yeah, title lead? Only Shera, I guess.
I know plenty of marginalized people who celebrate the ideals of the US even as the country fails to uphold them. I personally have a lot to criticize but I also enjoy amd recognize that even in the rural South, it wasn't illegal for me to exist like it can be in other places.
Well said
I'm fairly sure she was mentioned during Hickman's new run... Which is somethinf I guess
Just as they were back in the mid-to-late 90s when I was in high school.
I like the idea, and the character looks pretty neat. I'll be really intrigued to see how his storyline goes!
I also agree with the sentiment that I don't think a queer character being a bit more flamboyantly dressed and styled is a bad thing. I like his look here. I get the anxiety about campy stereotypes, and there's validity to queer characters not needing to be more flashy. But honestly I feel like the thing I've seen more of than anything in mainstream media lately is queer rep that amounts to an off-hand comment about a guy dating another man, or a woman talking about her girlfriend. There's a *lot* to the queer community that is about embracing and loving that unique style and panache (it's a part of that culture that I came to really appreciate and found a lot of comfort in as a queer guy), and also delving more into queer relationships besides just "it's just straight relationship but gay" because gay relationships can also carry their own unique idiosyncrasies and culturally-imbued baggage. Queer culture -in much of its flashiness- is a real thing, and a source of solidarity, belonging, and comfort to tons of people including myself. I'd like to see more stories have the boldness and courage to tell those stories in addition to the cases that that just swap the gender of an off-screen spouse or put a pride pin on someone's shirt.
And now that I write that all out I do suspect that superhero comics may not be the place to pin those hopes and dreams. But hey I hope this is a cool story and character.
I also agree with the sentiment that I don't think a queer character being a bit more flamboyantly dressed and styled is a bad thing. I like his look here. I get the anxiety about campy stereotypes, and there's validity to queer characters not needing to be more flashy. But honestly I feel like the thing I've seen more of than anything in mainstream media lately is queer rep that amounts to an off-hand comment about a guy dating another man, or a woman talking about her girlfriend. There's a *lot* to the queer community that is about embracing and loving that unique style and panache (it's a part of that culture that I came to really appreciate and found a lot of comfort in as a queer guy), and also delving more into queer relationships besides just "it's just straight relationship but gay" because gay relationships can also carry their own unique idiosyncrasies and culturally-imbued baggage. Queer culture -in much of its flashiness- is a real thing, and a source of solidarity, belonging, and comfort to tons of people including myself. I'd like to see more stories have the boldness and courage to tell those stories in addition to the cases that that just swap the gender of an off-screen spouse or put a pride pin on someone's shirt.
And now that I write that all out I do suspect that superhero comics may not be the place to pin those hopes and dreams. But hey I hope this is a cool story and character.
Huh. If they actually make that dynamic a part of his character then I'll change my mind about this character a bit. But for a one shot issue it'll be hard for it to have more than a panel or two dedicated to it.