It's a scene from Warrior on HBO. I didn't find the way the scene was cut distracting at all, personally.
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Marvel Studios' Shang-Chi: Official Teaser Trailer
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It's a scene from Warrior on HBO. I didn't find the way the scene was cut distracting at all, personally.
Hoping we see people like Joe Taslim, Andrew Koji and Iko Uwais pop up in this franchise if it gets sequels eventually.
And yeah Warrior is an incredible show and Taslim's movements are so fluid, glad he's Sub Zero.
I think people are overblowing the whole cloning thing tbh.. he had that power for a small bit in the comics but in the latest limited series he doesn't even do it anymore. It's really not an important part of his character.
I get that people want him to be a powerhouse but keep in mind one of the most popular superheroes in the world is just a rich dude who dresses like a bat. It's not power that makes a character interesting.
He can catch bullets too - did it in the latest run.
while it may not be important to his character, it does make him more powerful in a world where power levels are way beyond just close combat.
so I get why others would want that. and there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting that. to argue against it is more wierd.
this is lacking context tho. that dude is able to afford ways to not require crazy power....and can afford ways to give him crazy power ie batman v superman.
I have to say that I am more excited that Warrior got renewed for probably more than one season than for Shang Chi. The character and the teaser still feels a bit of orientalism to me. Of course it's about his foreign dad and ancestry in China and he spends most of the movie fighting other evil Asians. The new Kung Fu series have similar problems as well.
Warrior does it right and is more timely.
All the people directing these movies hate their fathers because they said they could never make kino
yea....Florian Muneanu screams "evil asian"
I disagree with your assessment. it looks like a westernized asian struggling with his asian ancestry. pretty dope
I'm sure if the story dictates it Shang Chi can equip himself with some high tech equipment made by the Wakadans that can let him take on those more powerful guys too. Giving himself superpowers fundamentally changes his character. Might as well make him an Asian Iron Fist instead.
Liked the trailer, but Marvel really needs to try something different besides making more movies set in San Francisco or New York City or just USA in general. There is a whole world out there, and given how many changes they are making to Shang-Chi as is, it wouldn't have hurt to set it elsewhere in the world. If they wanted to do West Coast NA, why not something different like Vancouver?
Hoping to see Shanghai, or other Asian cities in the movie as well. Really looking forward to this and absolutely love Simu Liu.
Hoping to see Shanghai, or other Asian cities in the movie as well. Really looking forward to this and absolutely love Simu Liu.
I want him to be powerhouse, because currently MCU is full of these stupidly powerful characters and we are getting more of them. We are also getting villains who are literally god killers etc.
And hey. Cloning is so freaking cool and special ability!
Marvel pretty consistently waits for their second trailer, or rather the "official trailer" to give us the story trailer that presents the plot.
The teaser may be the length of a full trailer, but the reason they seem to not have it be nothing more than a literal tease (which few studios seem to care to do anymore) is because it's mostly used to set a tone. It's less about being a tease for a bigger trailer, and more about giving people a taste of the movie's premise and themes before they do the hand-holding to walk people through what the plot and themes of the movie are going to be about.
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why would he use equipment and high tech power? that changes his character in the idea that he is a close combat character that relies on martial arts, not tech. i don't see how cloning himself effects any of that and wouldn't contradict his character at all? not wanting him to have powers is super corny and questionable when you have characters in a universe with powers. ain't nothing wrong with making him being an asian ironfist as well. Give him all the powers u can imo. shit, is it wrong for the one leading asian hero in the mcu to have some damn powers ? lmfao stop it
Seeing how Marvel's Black Panther movie was able to look at some serious social issues in the world of Black people in America, I became hopeful that Marvel's Shang-Chi movie could do the same for the Asian diaspora throughout the western world.
Given that the MCU Shang-Chi is the son of The Mandarin, the REAL Mandarin, I instantly became hopeful that this movie could include themes of the conflict between Asian parents and their westernized children, and how Asian parents THINK they know what's best for their children and therefore are entitled to control virtually all aspects of their children lives - even well into their adulthood. BUT, in reality, Asian parents are too unfamiliar with the western world, their knowledge is of the past and is often insufficient for the future or even the present, so they are actually inadvertently setting their children up for failure in successfully navigating life in the West.
I was hopeful that in the inevitable face off between The Mandarin and Shang-Chi, between father and son, they would air out this conflict, address the divide between good intentions and a world in which the actions derived from those good intentions lead to failure or worse...
"I gave you 10 years to live your life. And where did that get you?"
"You walked in my shadow"
"Son, it's time for you to take your place by my side" / "That's not going to happen"
"You can't outrun who you really are"
HOLY SHIT! NO WAY! AM I GOING TO GET WHAT I DREAMED OF?!
DAY MOTHERFUCKING ONE!!!
I will be fully vaccinated by September - I am definitely watching this in theaters!
I know some people here referenced Crouching Tiger for some scenes. I actually got a much more Hero-vibe from the trailer (at least as far as the fight scenes are concerned).
Maybe it's the colors?
Or maybe because Tony Leung is in it, too.
Haha I'm happy for everything. Warrior is sometimes a bit hard for me to watch (the racism and gore make me a bit uncomfortable).
I imagine Shang Chi will be much easier to watch, even though I think the fight choreography will be vastly inferior to a show like Warrior.
Maybe it's the colors?
Or maybe because Tony Leung is in it, too.
Haha I'm happy for everything. Warrior is sometimes a bit hard for me to watch (the racism and gore make me a bit uncomfortable).
I imagine Shang Chi will be much easier to watch, even though I think the fight choreography will be vastly inferior to a show like Warrior.
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Whatever his powerset ends up being, I just hope he's very important/prominent in the grand scheme of things. Wanda for example is easily one of the most powerful Avengers, but she was underutilized until WandaVision came out, and as such is only now starting to get on the right track in terms of doing her character full justice. In comparison, Cap was just peak human, but of course he was a pillar of the MCU and got lots of screentime and highlights despite the threats above his pay grade.
So whatever powerset he does end up having, I'm mainly hoping they do right by him in terms of his importance relative to the other superheroes, given that he's our first Asian superhero lead in the MCU. Of course, he's off to a good start at least since he's getting his own movie.
Now that's just said but explains alot. No happy fathers day.
EXACTLY!
I dont want him to shoot laser beams. Cloning would just mean that instead of one Shang fighting hand to hand someone, there could be two or three of them.
It would still Be all about martial arts
Yeah I liked BP up until the the final battle but it made up for it with it's ending. I just wish it didn't have to end like most marvel movies with cgi spectacles. I would rather have a final battle of philosophies and ideas. But I get it's a superhero film and villains have to die by default.
I would have like the dialogue between T'chlla and Erik to be much longer as both in their own minds were right in some ways and wrong in others. However I will concede that would have made for a boring finale.
i will never forgive them for casting a british japanese guy to play a chinese character that barely gave a shit to practice his cantonese for that first episode of Warrior. inexcusable
Very dope trailer. It was a surprise for me in a couple ways because: I didn't know this was going to be a full theatrical pic, I did not know it was coming out this year, and Tony Leung is in this shit?
I'm onboard. And I'm loving the Wuxia. Hopefully they allow the stunt people to actually show off their fighting talents without too many cuts. Like I digged the knife play in The Winter Soldier, but they need to go beyond that and more here and let us see all that goes into even the "simple" stuff.
And the typical MCU pathos in the teaser made me yawn a bit, but overall the teaser did more than enough to at least get my watch when it comes out for home viewing.
I'm onboard. And I'm loving the Wuxia. Hopefully they allow the stunt people to actually show off their fighting talents without too many cuts. Like I digged the knife play in The Winter Soldier, but they need to go beyond that and more here and let us see all that goes into even the "simple" stuff.
And the typical MCU pathos in the teaser made me yawn a bit, but overall the teaser did more than enough to at least get my watch when it comes out for home viewing.
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This looks...fine?
The action, aside from that CGI horde mode scene looks promising at least.
I know this really doesn't impact their profit line at all, but damn these films just look so visually dull. I was shocked to see Bill Pope's name on this, because this looks as if it was directed by an AI like Captain Marvel and Black Widow.
It's only a teaser though.
The action, aside from that CGI horde mode scene looks promising at least.
I know this really doesn't impact their profit line at all, but damn these films just look so visually dull. I was shocked to see Bill Pope's name on this, because this looks as if it was directed by an AI like Captain Marvel and Black Widow.
It's only a teaser though.
Hype.
Was talking to some of my friends about the trailer and the casual dismissal of Simu and wanting a more 'handsome' actor to portray Shang Chi. LOL I can't even, kpop rotting brains out here.
The action looks promising and that supporting cast. Kunai work too whew. Not worried at all about Shang's power level down the line tbh. He's casually swinging that huge ass sword no normal human could in a blink and you'll miss it fight with his father (1:23).
Was talking to some of my friends about the trailer and the casual dismissal of Simu and wanting a more 'handsome' actor to portray Shang Chi. LOL I can't even, kpop rotting brains out here.
The action looks promising and that supporting cast. Kunai work too whew. Not worried at all about Shang's power level down the line tbh. He's casually swinging that huge ass sword no normal human could in a blink and you'll miss it fight with his father (1:23).
Yeah a lot of these movies looking dull. It is what it is though, don't really expect anything different on that point from marvel anymore so I stopped whining about it. But it's just good to see this type of choreography and having the camera stay on frame with it too.
I agree. I wasn't really pumped about it. After 18 origins stories that follow the same beats rarely deviating from them, it just feels like most Marvel films are stagnant storytelling wise. I also dislike the fact they have to shoehorn in a shared universe which imo limits the creative freedom of directors and writers.
It's like Disney places limits on creativity when it comes to thier films.
I have absolutely no idea what Shang Chi is about, had never even heard the name before the movie was announced.
Just watched the trailer and I'm completely onboard, looks great.
Just watched the trailer and I'm completely onboard, looks great.
I think the focus on his powerset underscores not only the long and glaring lack of a mainsteam Asian superhero (emphasis on "super"), but the fact that every white superhero has not just fighting and martial arts training as their basic default ability as a hero, but there are multiple white protagonists over decades of films (not just in Marvel/superhero movies) that are trained in Asian martial arts, especially since you bring up Batman. It makes even an Asian protagonist that is supposed to be a master martial artist seem less special. Cloning techniques would certainly make him unique in the MCU.
It's bad enough that there is the stereotype that has often painted Asian characters in fiction as only being significant for their martial arts skills, but it's also something that has been whitewashed in film of it's history (often literally) to also strip any Asianess and culture from fighting techniques that are pretty explicitly derived from Asian cultures. I'd say even Marvel Studios has been guilty of this as well to some degree despite their attempt to sidestep potential problematic aspects of stereotyping Asian characters as martial artists or whatnot by casting diverse people to be parts of groups typically associated with ethnic groups, but there is also a degree of erasure there when you take cultural touchstones and sidestep it rather than attempting to tackle some of the baggage that comes with it (if you care about acknowledging and addressing the potential nature connected to some of that imagery and associations with the real world). That's why a hero who is supposed to be an amazing fighter can seem underwhelming when we have characters who already are supposed to be among the best fighters like Captain America, but he also has a special shield and the super soldier serum on top of that.
There already looks to be a lot of magical and fantastical stuff going on in the trailer, so I'm not worried. I think they'll probably do something like have Shang Chi's ability to focus his chi to be able to do some cool stuff. Maybe that may lead to other cool abilities as well, and I think that is all people want; a unique character with something unique and cool about him.
Chloe Zhao is the last hope for visual flair in this franchise. I'm holding out for Eternals lol.
I suppose Avengers taught them they could cheap out on that aspect and still hit a billion dollars.
Trailer looked fun. I'm excited for it.
I am a little more interested in how he and his cast integrate into the rest of the MCU than I am of the film itself. There looks like a wealth of cool things that could get brought into the fold through his film(s) in the same way Black Panther and Doctor Strange kinda restructured the toy box everyone gets to play in.
I am a little more interested in how he and his cast integrate into the rest of the MCU than I am of the film itself. There looks like a wealth of cool things that could get brought into the fold through his film(s) in the same way Black Panther and Doctor Strange kinda restructured the toy box everyone gets to play in.
He has an action movie with Tom Hardy and Forest Whitaker coming to Netflix, plus an exclusive deal for more projects, but I think he's done with Indonesian martial arts
The crazy thing is that he only had professional Judo training before The Raid. He learned how to do screen fighting and choreography and other styles (ie Silat) for/during The Raid. That was his debut too
MCU threads (clothing threads) for sure. Amazing how consistent they keep all their uniforms.
You say shoehorn like the shared universe isn't one of the biggest appeals of the MCU to begin with
Reading the comments, I almost feel like it's the opposite.
People poo poo this or dismiss it because it says "Marvel Studios" where if this was it's own thing, people wouldn't hyperfocus on the ways it looks like other actions films and instead judge it more on it's own merits.
I get it. I just think that there is an appeal to a guy who worked so hard to get good at martial arts he can go toe-to-toe with powered superheroes with his bare hands and even come out on top (like he did multiple times with Spider-Man). There's an element of being an underdog with no preexisting advantage and still coming out on top that is inherently Asian-American that I personally connect with.
Recent quote from Simu Liu BTW about Shang Chi beating Iron Man or Hulk in a fight
Simu Liu Is Confident Shang-Chi Could Beat Iron Man Or Hulk In A Fight
He decides who would win in a pretend MCU fight.
screenrant.com
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Mediocre AF.
I watch my share of Chinese action/kung fu movies and dramas, this looks average..
I watch my share of Chinese action/kung fu movies and dramas, this looks average..
Very excited for this although I thought the trailer was a bit underwhelming. I appreciate not wanting to give too much away when the film is four months out but at the same time I was hoping for one really wow martial arts moment and hoped they had enough of them in the film to give one away in the ad. Still, very hyped.
IAs a side note, it is great to see Tony Leung in a Marvel movie. I know he probably doesnt give a fuck about being in Hollywood movies and it is 30 years too late at any rate but still, nice to see Little Tony getting that cash!
IAs a side note, it is great to see Tony Leung in a Marvel movie. I know he probably doesnt give a fuck about being in Hollywood movies and it is 30 years too late at any rate but still, nice to see Little Tony getting that cash!
Chances of him wielding the Ten Rings at the end of the movie?
I do hope it doesn't take a long time before we get a team-up movie... it doesn't even have to Avengers-size... it can be Civil War style with just a couple of them.
I do hope it doesn't take a long time before we get a team-up movie... it doesn't even have to Avengers-size... it can be Civil War style with just a couple of them.
I hear you, I know about silk and Luna Snow and the White Fox, but they have not yet made that transition. My hope is since this takes place partly in California, it's a set up for agents of atlas. Just a little worried about Shang chi
This feels like an underappreciated aspect of this movie. It's not hard to imagine a new corner of the MCU, along with dozens of story options to draw from, being unlocked through the introduction of Shang-Chi, the real Mandarin, and the ten rings. I'm also liking the prediction by another poster that the rings are arm-sized as a way to better tie them back to their alien creators.
My dude...It's a little disingenuous to say Marvel is running out of "good characters" based partly on your personal preference of not liking F4 and most popular mutants. Those two groups alone can easily give the MCU at least a decade of good characters, storylines, crossovers, and villains.
But let's step back from that for a moment. What defines "good characters" in the world of Marvel comics when you look at them through the lens of the general, movie-going public (because comic fans alone don't drive billion-dollar box office grosses)? I'd argue there aren't many characters that are truly popular or well known with the general public outside of Spider-Man, F4, X-Men, and a couple of the Avengers (Captain America and Hulk). And we've already seen that "good" and "popular" characters alone don't automatically result in "good" or "successful" movies...
The MCU is going to create good characters.
Ten years ago do you think the general public would ever have an interest in watching a serialized TV show starring the Scarlet Witch and Vision or the Falcon and the Winter Soldier? Or a movie about Black Widow? We even have an entire series starring LOKI that looks freaking nuts and could generate a ton of positive word of mouth if it meets its potential. Loki could have easily been a joke of a character in the MCU, but Marvel nailed the casting and his characterization. Generally speaking, I'm a fan of Marvel and I would have laughed in your face if you told me 15 years ago that: 1) Loki was getting his own TV show, and 2) that I would actually be very excited to watch it.
Shang Chi can't clone himself. The only reason why he did that one time was because he went into an alien plant pod created by alien architects that artificially grow lifeforms to seed life on barren or destitute planets. He cloned himself because the plant pod spit out what were essentially humans anyway and used it to replicate himself for one specific task.
Shang Chi isn't going to have alien plant pods in the movie and the dude doesn't know how to perform Shadow Clone Jutsu, so he's not going to clone himself.
He'll use Pym Particles to fight a giant dragon that uses Madripoor as a hat in a movie before he does the Shadow Clone Jutsu.
Shang Chi isn't going to have alien plant pods in the movie and the dude doesn't know how to perform Shadow Clone Jutsu, so he's not going to clone himself.
He'll use Pym Particles to fight a giant dragon that uses Madripoor as a hat in a movie before he does the Shadow Clone Jutsu.