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Marvel Studios' Loki |OT| See You Soon (All of Season 1 is on Disney+)
- Thread starter Neoxon
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- Entertainment Comics OT
the ones who's scene played out as described, I'd strongly suspect that yes.
Going by what the Kang we met could do, he basically mass produced his own Infinity Gem with the TemPad and that weapon that can forcibly send anyone to any point in time and space. Dude would lose in a straight fight against the weakest Avengers, but the technology and resources he'd have access to would make him far more dangerous than even Thanos.
That and if any other Kang gets the bright idea of weaponising Alioth like the Kang we met did, entire universes would disappear instantly.
But isn't the destiny of Loki to literally die? If they're all cheating death with Thanos it takes away from the character.
everyone is a variant.
thousands of years after IW, Classic Loki got pruned.
Same thing will happen to MCU Loki, who is currently floating in space as debri, or living in isolation on a deserted planet
one of the takeaways you should have gotten from Kang's speech and the from the show at large, is that the same events keep taking place over and over again. Which is why Kang could predict that the multiverse war will happen again, and that variants of himself will cause it.
One of the takeaways you should have gotten is that MCU Loki is dead
I felt like in episode 5 they tried to tell that Loki is about magic and not daggers. And then we switch over to episode 6 where they are using swords.
I like the idea of Kang and them showing a "mild" version of him first. I didnt care for the execution though, Im not a big fan of these kind of exposition dumps where one character tells everything. More showing, less telling.
And no, I dont know how to do it instead, Im just expressing how I feel about the episode.
I like the idea of Kang and them showing a "mild" version of him first. I didnt care for the execution though, Im not a big fan of these kind of exposition dumps where one character tells everything. More showing, less telling.
And no, I dont know how to do it instead, Im just expressing how I feel about the episode.
I cant wait for the episode breakdown. Hopefully he has MT on it too and they can both gloat haha.
Oh god that was so shit. Kang was so bad. I hope he's relegated to Ant Man/Loki only, or at least when he comes back has a totally different personality.
no, everyone is a variant. And events in time repeat themselves over and over. I'm not struggling at all. It's you failing to understand how loop theory and multiverse theory have converged to form the MCUs time theory, even though Kang's final lecture paints a vivid picture.
classic Loki's detailed illusion was of himself dying while attempting to kill Thanos. It's a variation of the same illusion he pulled on Thor in Dark World- and illusion that the show's Loki would have done if he had not veered off of the path. I'm not sure why you think he would have had to get "drastically better at sorcery" to fake his death , when he showed aptitude to fake his death immediately after the events of Avengers 2012.
the skill he would need to cast the illusion we saw Classic Loki use in the show, he acquired after thousands of years in isolation.
Loki died. There's no ambiguity over that. The Variant Loki we followed in the show is basically Marvel's way of getting around that and they're not going to turn around and say the Loki that seemingly died in Infinity War is still alive.
I don't doubt that the Variant Loki will return to the MCU proper, though. The mainline Loki said the sun would shine on them again one day and I think we'd all die of glee if Loki showed up in the future leading an entire army of Variant Lokis to save Thor from some terrible enemy.
I have come to eat my crow. I was wrong about Classic Loki.
BUT…I did also say this:
So I feel comfortable with my choices. Lol.
BUT…I did also say this:
So I feel comfortable with my choices. Lol.
It's super clear that whatever Kang shows up next is going to have a very different personality (given that most of the speech is emphasizing how much worse they are)
I am surprised (in a good way) Owen Wilson would sign on for something that was more than one season.
Right, that was insanely obvious. This is just one variant.
It's pretty apparent he's this phase's Thanos and will be in almost everything.
So my long-term guess is Doctor Doom is the main villain in phase 5. Gives them time to introduce F4.
Kang isn't Reed Richards, Kang is a very, very, very distant descendent of Reed. He doesn't necessarily have to be black or white, but whoever they choose they need to make sure they get his character right. He needs to be a bit pompous, a bit of an asshole but ultimately is an asshole because he's so obscenely smart and is doing everything he's doing for the good of everyone.
that's your takeaway. Classic Loki's story casts doubt on that. Loki dying to Thanos and Loki appearing to die to Thanos, but actually living in isolation on a deserted planet has the exact same impact on the timelien
Thanos didn't show up much across three phases to be fair, but we'll see.
Nice, got to put my Marvel Unlimited subscription to use, so I might read that.
Yeah that scene underground where all loki's start fighting really proves your point there.
It's Marvel, super popular and well known. Easy money for Owen, he's gotta eat too.
She wasn't causing timelines where evil Kang comes to be.
She probably will. If the theories are right and she heard her sons the moment the multiverse sprang into life at the end of this season of Loki, you can pretty much guarantee Wanda is going to tear her way through universes to find them and cause immense damage to the multiverse in the process.
Now as someone who doesn't care for "ITS THAT GUY FROM THE COMICS", that struck me as really mediocre.
Ending the last episode of a season in a big exposition dump because they didn't bother to actually introduce the main villain and had to spend the last episode attempting to tell us why we should care about him is unideal at the best of times.
It doesn't help either that apparently any development that Sylvie had as a character was transient and she hadn't learned anything. Oh well. At least it didn't have a single line that completely blew the episode like wandavision did, I suppose. Basically nothing resolved that the series had been building up to 🤷♂️
Ending the last episode of a season in a big exposition dump because they didn't bother to actually introduce the main villain and had to spend the last episode attempting to tell us why we should care about him is unideal at the best of times.
It doesn't help either that apparently any development that Sylvie had as a character was transient and she hadn't learned anything. Oh well. At least it didn't have a single line that completely blew the episode like wandavision did, I suppose. Basically nothing resolved that the series had been building up to 🤷♂️
"Almost everything". Thanos showed up two or three times in the near twenty movies leading up to infinity war and only the GOTG appearance could have been called anything more than a cameo, and even then he sat on his chair being threatening and that was essentially it.
The infinity stones were the driving force for most of phases 1-3, not Thanos.
So the way I interpreted the last scene with the TVA and the changing statue is now a new version of Kang has taken control of the TVA and instead of their mission being about preserving the sacred timeline, it's now about conquering any new timelines. Did anyone else interpret it as that?
Three times. And if you're wrong about that you're probably wrong about everything else.
they're not really wrong, though. He had a cameo in the first two Avengers films and had a supporting role in the first Guardians movie.
That's because there was only one Thanos. There's a practically unlimited number of Kangs that can show up with a practically unlimited variety of names, personalities and resources. Plus these versions of Kang can actually die, something Thanos obviously never could do.
He's essentially a Lich at this point, yeah. That's the vibe I got as well.
Same, except I think an alt-Kang came in and retrofitted the entire TVA because it doesn't really make sense since there's only supposed to be 1 TVA.
Yes and no. For the most part, He Who Remains has seen every single outcome, what we see here is the one outcome he was hoping for - a true successor. He knew that Loki and Sylvie were going to make into his citadel, however, he didn't know which one would take his spot because they waited until after the point of no return during the branching of the multiverse (as seen in episode 2 where Sylvie bombs the sacred timeline) to make a decision.
I wonder if the people complaining that Kang is someone from "the comics" (ironic because everything here is) complained when Sauron was very bascially explained in Lord of the rings movies? Wait what is this some guy from "the books"? This is the start of Kang's story. You'll learn about him from now on....
