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Marvel Studios' Loki |OT| See You Soon (All of Season 1 is on Disney+)
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LMAO
I think it's all but confirmed, yeah. The audience understands now what a "variant" is, and that they could either look and act exactly like a character we recognize, or they could be a god damn alligator version, or anything in between!
Amazingly, Marvel even succeeded in making us care about this variant Loki... maybe even more than the original Loki that was killed by Thanos? I'm assuming Strange can show anyone a recap video of their greatest hits, like Loki got to watch in the TVA prison, and then badabing they're all caught up and basically the same character!
Exactly. Everytime I think we've hit a new rock bottom in comprehension someone comes along to disprove that theory.
I'm not as down on it now then.
Yep. All of the Kangs are different, which means Majors will have a chance to stretch his acting chops here. Rama Tut, Victor Timely, Kang The Conqueror, etc should all have different mannerisms.
Sooo in the beginning Loki says "We have a hulk."
We gonna get Loki leading the avengers vs Kang in a redux of battle of NYC?
We gonna get Loki leading the avengers vs Kang in a redux of battle of NYC?
maybe something like the mind horror from season 2 of Penny Dreadful. Dimension horror where reality is always changing is pretty terrifying.
Yeah it's like the ending of Cabin in the Woods. You did the wrong thing but most would be pushed to do it in that situation.
I bet they were the same people saying Classic Loki would be the big bad. I'd just bet.
I wonder if he saw this coming when meditating on all the timelines to find the one where they would beat Thanos.
At this point he's the sole writer of the version that is being made. When Raimi came on board, Waldron worked with him to rewrite the script from scratch using only the previous scripts as a base foundation. Waldron is also working with Feige on his Star Wars project.
So like, does the circular visual image represent all universes or just their respective one.
Trying to understand if it depicts one timeline or one universe or all universes in seamless harmony- guessing the latter. Which means his role has been to prune any variation that may reach out to other universes? Is his goal to stunt that sorta technological development? Or did he have the monster thing consume all other timelines and wishes to prevent the birth of new ones?
Trying to understand if it depicts one timeline or one universe or all universes in seamless harmony- guessing the latter. Which means his role has been to prune any variation that may reach out to other universes? Is his goal to stunt that sorta technological development? Or did he have the monster thing consume all other timelines and wishes to prevent the birth of new ones?
Speaking of setting up things.
Do you think we'll have to wait for gotg3 for this
Don't expect Adam Warlock too hard. From what I've heard James Gunn may have pivoted away from using him.
One possibility is there can be a ton of fake-outs. Various Kangs can show up, each one potentially framed as the one who will go the distance and become the last man standing. The biggest bad. Or the true threat to the next Avengers. But anything can happen to them including death.
Nothing stops the all-singing, all-dancing Kang Express.
And don't forget... Doom is coming. He has a history with Kang, and often holds him in contempt for putting himself on Doom's level.
I am imagining a Burly Brawl scenario with Doom getting mobbed by a hundred different Kangs.
HOLY SHIT! what an episode!
to think the pulled off a Kang Varient as the He Who Remains was quite the surprise and I'm sure it took an insane amount of effort to keep it under wraps. I knew we would get him on the show but I just assumed he would be played by another Varient who looked like Richard E Grant. Loki is going headfirst in to Kang shit so yeah wouldn't be surprised if casting announcements for Quantumania just straight up confirms Loki's appearance too.
FINALLY! THE MULTIVERSE IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS
RELEASE THE NO WAY HOME TRAILER!
this fucking scene...... god! it got me good and I was wearing headphones in a dark room!
to think the pulled off a Kang Varient as the He Who Remains was quite the surprise and I'm sure it took an insane amount of effort to keep it under wraps. I knew we would get him on the show but I just assumed he would be played by another Varient who looked like Richard E Grant. Loki is going headfirst in to Kang shit so yeah wouldn't be surprised if casting announcements for Quantumania just straight up confirms Loki's appearance too.
FINALLY! THE MULTIVERSE IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS
RELEASE THE NO WAY HOME TRAILER!
this fucking scene...... god! it got me good and I was wearing headphones in a dark room!
I mean, where?
I assume you're reading into the following line: "Take no offense, my friends, but blades are worthless in the face of a Loki sorcery. They stunt our magical potential."
There's no reason to assume he DIDN'T use daggers as a general rule - he even agrees that they look awesome, wryly - we just have confirmation that he didn't use daggers to try and kill Thanos. Whether his statement about "stunting magical potential" is something he was aware of BEFORE Thanos killed him, and thus the motivation for not using them, or can say now, with the benefit of time and having met countless other Lokis, is pure speculation.
I would bet good money Jonathon Majors has a voice role somewhere...
God is it August yet
I mean I believe he's arguing that mainline Loki DIDN'T die when Thanos choked him and ALSO cast an illusion and hid on a planet for years. That's just demonstrably not true.
So that Rick and Morty episode from a few weeks ago?
There will definitely be a lot of different versions of Kang, but the one Ravonna is with is likely to be the primary threat.
This is all cribbing from storylines in the comics written 20 or 30 years ago. Where do you think Rick and Morty got the idea?
Loki was a fun series. It was my favorite original Disney+ series, and better than most Marvel movies. I thought the visuals, acting, music, and mysterious storytelling was really fun. I didn't hate any of the exposition in the finale because exposition is necessary for comic-book films--especially for someone like me who didn't even know who Kang was until after I watched the episode.
I will say that Kang was a little over-the-top cheesy. Like, the writing and acting combined felt a little over-cooked. But, I don't watch Marvel movies for the acting or great acting or story-telling; I watch them for the visuals and the reveals.
I will say that Kang was a little over-the-top cheesy. Like, the writing and acting combined felt a little over-cooked. But, I don't watch Marvel movies for the acting or great acting or story-telling; I watch them for the visuals and the reveals.
I full on disagree. Loki was Never someone who didn't care, but he was always someone who's care for others was came second to his thirst for power and love for self. Even at the culmination of Ragnorak/ beginning of IW, Loki betrays Thor.
This is the first time in any MCU of Loki where Loki became truly selfless. The final words between Sylvie and Loki, cemented Loki's growth. "I'm not you". He finally loved someone other than himself and managed to not
back stab them.
As far as Sylvie, this chapter in her story was about her lust for revenge as well as learning to allow herself to be vulnerable with someone else. And ultimately her success in one area meant a failure in the other. It's a tragic ending to her arc. But the arc did exist.
Loki being revealed as bi wasn't really a character development it was a lore drop.
I wonder if it will end with an "avengers" episode with all the variant heroes coming together to face cartoon Kang.
Ah, well, that's a Schrodinger's cat sort of situation - we can't know until they confirm otherwise. We know that Loki's "correct" path ends with his being killed by Thanos, but we also know it's possible for Loki to slip away at the last minute and hide forever, even from the TVA, up until the point he causes a nexus event.
Classic Loki isn't implied to be Mainline Loki, but there's no reason he couldn't pull the same stunt, y'know? It's just speculation. (But it'd ruin the sacrifice so I doubt they'll ever pull that thread.)
Well yeah I think they've resurrected Loki in a much more satisfying way, don't know why they'd do any different.
There will be some sort of culmination event as hinted at in the trailer... exciting times.
to be fair, this was arguably the hardest MCU act to follow...
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No ???
They don't create the variants they pick up the ones that already exist.
Nah, I'd take the show at face value here. Variants are people who go off script at some point from the sacred timeline, and get kidnapped by the TVA.
I don't think he would be less threatening if there are multiple Kang running around because, like, stopping him only stops one of him and they all ultimately want the same thing. These are guys capable of existing at any point in space and time that can destroy entire universes and fully intend to destroy all the universes except their own. The only reason the MCU is still standing is because their Kang is the one that won last time, but they no longer have a Kang to "defend" them (if you can call it that).
Even one Kang is far worse than Thanos ever was (his most evil plan was to reduce one universe to its atomic components and rebuild it into a utopia that worshipped him, which isn't as bad as destroying all but one universes). and there's a practically infinite number of them. The best part is they're not a physical threat. They seem entirely human, so the heroes that can punch hard enough to blow up planets won't help.
You're going to need to be a lot smarter to beat Kang, I think, so it's probably a good thing Reed Richards is showing up soon.
I'm not wrong. The TVA was not "fooled" by an illusion- I never suggested as much. Classic Loki's life between his encounter with Thanos and his pruning was not important to the TVA because he was living in solitude. He only came back on their radar when he tried to rejoin society.
The Loki in the show isn't MCU Loki. He didn't think of this because he hasn't lived any of the experiences that would have lead him to think of this. he was pruned before IW, before Ragnorak, before Dark World, before all of the events that would have lead him to beef up on his magic.
Yes, classic loki is thousands of years older, wiser , and more experienced than the shows Loki- which is which is why he was able to tell the shows Loki about the things he didn't get to experience... including the fact that reliance of dangers stunts progression with sorcery.
No it didn't. It classic Loki literally recaps the scene in IW, and tells us it was an illusion. My God.
I get the impression Kang is basically Batman, but with time travel. He'll be prepared for any scenario. Not sure how they make that interesting.
So you're saying every single Loki that was killed by Thanos...wasn't?
So you're saying every single Loki that was killed by Thanos...wasn't?
You pretty much said everything I wanted to say LOL
I was so ready for Marvel to chicken out again like they did with WandaVision but nope, they gave us the real deal and set up the rest of Phase 4. The hype for MoM is going to be insane but I'm guessing that Spider-Man will ease us into the multiverse war before we get a full blown taste later.
Yeah, for Classic Loki. Who's a variant. That was rather an important plot point...
I thought Renslayer was going to open the portal and then walk into that room where Kang, Loki, & Sylvie were. Since she didn't, it makes me wonder which version of Kang is her lover (if that is still a thing).
But other than stating that this is the best MCU Disney+ show, I agree with everything here. I think Loki as a tv show at all is the worst out of the three on Disney+ set in the MCU, however, this finale definitely triumphs the WandaVision finale which was one of the weakest points of that show, and Falcon which to me aimed higher but didn't achieve what it set out for - as a whole, including its finale even though its finale wasn't bad.
And I think watching these shows are just as essential as watching the movies. They are MCU installments all the same, so skipping one of these series in my opinion is the equivalent of skipping any of the movies in between the major crossover films. If you decide to skip any installment, you're always going to miss essential parts of the story. For example, Captain Marvel and Antman 2, two films that both came between Avengers 3 & 4, both which grossed significantly less than both. That's indicative that the full target audience hadn't seen all of the pieces of the story, even though the two pieces in between were legitimate interims between Avengers films
