Hmm that makes sense...
Almost as if it was a massive plot point of the last episode
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Almost as if it was a massive plot point of the last episode
The bombs only erases the Variance area
I was confused by that too i originally thought it erased the entire timeline but it only erases the area
You see when they took Sylvie that her toys were erased but the floor was still intact
The reason why Sylvie was a variant doesn't seem to be gender it's possible but doesn't seem like it and Owen did say they captured different versions of Loki who have different powers with the only overlap being some forms of illusion powers
we might see that revealed next episode why Sylvie was captured
I've seen this take elsewhere and I'm a fan of it. It lines up really well with what she's been doing as well. She isn't vying for the power of the TVA, she's trying to take down the "fascists" (her words) controlling everyone's lives and give everyone their freedom back. Her mission isn't ambitious, it's noble.
If you're working off earlier speculation of "Old Man Loki" you're gonna have to drop it, most of that was hinged on Richard Grant as the Big Bad. And he's probably still meant to be an older and more sinister version of Hiddleston's Loki, but him being the central villain seems out of the question. And as for Ravonna, it's really a question of whether she's staging everything with herself on top or if she's serving the actual person behind the TVA, and the latter seems more likely given her role so far.
At this point it seems like a toss-up between a different Loki and Kang, and both can work thematically if written in the right way. And unlike Mephisto Kang is an actual possibility because unlike Wandavision there is very clearly someone else we haven't seen before behind the curtain.
Is it just supposed to look like Mjolnir? Like a prop or something? You didn't give me enough to answer my question and just gave me more questions lol
Plus we know Kang is 100% coming to the point of actually being cast. I do see the Mephisto comparisons but it's just not quite the same.
You know as much as everyone else knows. Boastful Loki isn't like a comic character or anything, so we have no idea what the hammer is. It definitely seems like it's meant to evoke Mjolnir
Could be a version raised by Dwarves who built his own hammer to challenge Thor
We don't know lol my guess is that it's thor loki or a worthy loki but the hammer looks different
That's not my issue / point.
Obviously the TVA is not doing what it says it is, and something extremely dodgy is going on.
But the actual, factual things they do don't make sense and leave more questions than answers. I'm not perplexed because their actions don't make sense with what their mission is. I'm perplexed because the universe as has been presented makes no sense at all.
If Mobius and other pruned variants are not in fact dead, I'm laying heavy odds the TVA survives but is put under the leadership of Mobius. Who reimagines their purpose as preventing hostile time travelers (like Kang) from changing history to benefit themselves.
I could see Mobius realizing that even after his memories are restored he can't go back to an old life. The prime version of himself would still be there, living it out.
I could see Mobius realizing that even after his memories are restored he can't go back to an old life. The prime version of himself would still be there, living it out.
Fanboys going at the IGN reviewer in his mentions and DMing him bullshit. Really having a normal one over criticism of a TV show.
It's likely the real deal but, of course, it won't have Thor's power inside it (unless something happened to Thor in that universe and Loki inherited Mjolnir).
I am kinda curious what Mjolnir would be capable of in Loki's hands though. He isn't actually a god, after all, he's a jötunn raised by gods so he doesn't actually have any divine power of his own to channel through Mjolnir.
I'll never understand why people care that much about what other people think. I mean, yeah, I would personally rate the episode at least an 8/10, but someone else rating the episode a 5 or even a 1 wouldn't really change anything for me. In this case, the most I would do is ask the reviewer to explain themselves further, since I don't feel that any episodes have "jogged in place" so far.
Now that we know that "pruning" someone doesn't actually kill them , I wonder what the TVA's battons and reset charges actually do to whatever they touch.
Reset charges don't seem to rewind anything, destroyed objects don't get fixed and return to their original place (like an infinity stone would do). They just disappear.
On the other hand, looking at the post-credits scene, it is easy to assume that we're in some kind of post-apocalyptic New York (notice the Avengers Tower in the background). But on second thought... maybe that's not the case. What if everything that gets "pruned" is actually being teleported to somewhere outside time? A completely different realm where pruned people and objects can't affect the Sacred Timeline in any way? Like... a Battleworld?
I bet this isn't actually New York, and all these buildings and people were actually brought here, to this multiversal purgatory, when they got pruned. That would be fun xD.
Reset charges don't seem to rewind anything, destroyed objects don't get fixed and return to their original place (like an infinity stone would do). They just disappear.
On the other hand, looking at the post-credits scene, it is easy to assume that we're in some kind of post-apocalyptic New York (notice the Avengers Tower in the background). But on second thought... maybe that's not the case. What if everything that gets "pruned" is actually being teleported to somewhere outside time? A completely different realm where pruned people and objects can't affect the Sacred Timeline in any way? Like... a Battleworld?
I bet this isn't actually New York, and all these buildings and people were actually brought here, to this multiversal purgatory, when they got pruned. That would be fun xD.
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I'm not going to defend anyone going after him in DMs and what not, but twitter replies, IGN comment section, etc are fair game. His review seemed to misunderstand or misinterpret the episode and people are rightfully dunking on him for that. Anything beyond that is uncalled for.
Now that we know that "pruning" someone doesn't actually kill them , I wonder what the TVA's battons and reset charges actually do to whatever they touch.
Rest charges don't seem to rewind anything, destroyed objects don't get fixed and return to their original place (like an infinity stone would do). They just disappear.
On the other hand, looking at the post-credits scene, it is easy to assume that we're in some kind of post-apocalyptic New York (notice the Avengers Tower in the background). But on second thought... maybe that's not the case. What if everything that gets "pruned" is actually being teleported to somewhere outside time? A completely different realm where pruned people and objects can't affect the Sacred Timeline in any way? Like... a Battleworld?
I bet this isn't actually New York, and all these buildings and people were actually brought here, to this multiversal purgatory, when they were pruned. That would be fun xD.
You know, that makes sense to me - we've already established with the Sif scene that the TVA can create pocket dimensions, transport people to them, and set the rules there. The background looks pretty slapdash, with buildings just sort of randomly dumped at odd angles. Could be post-apocalyptic, but I buy this as a possibility - the multiversal dumping ground.
Wow thank you for your very thoughtful post!
Now I need to also keep Ant-Man 3 on my "to watch" list! Everything sounds excellent!
They're not doing that though. "You just didn't get it" is one of the most tired ass responses toward reviews. It's not a deep show. They're just doing game review bullshit, "score too low", "why didn't they hire someone who likes genre", "your writing is garbage", etc.
I didn't think of battleworld, but it certainly seems like the TVA has been lying and actually trying to prune alternate realities instead of timelines. Anyone they prune gets sent to that pocket reality to just live it out.
The fight scenes have been mostly bad. It's my one major complaint about the show. They also seen to have forgotten that Asgardians have super strength.
His major critique was that the story isn't advancing in any meaningful way. In this episode we learn:
Sylvie's reason for being a variant; that the timekeepers are puppets for someone bigger; that there are other variant Lokis in presumably a Battleworld; that the TVA is in fact housing variants and two major characters learn that; we learn more about Renslayer's background (and probably villain status?)
I sure felt the third one did.
On the other hand, I thought this episode was fantastic, and in hindsight needed the last one to establish a relationship between Sylvie and Loki. (I just didn't think they did that good a job of it.)
Wasn't her plan to cause confusion and then infiltrate the TVA? She did that. It went sideways. Maybe not a satisfying conclusion to her plan, but so it goes.
People get so worked up over a number especially for nerd properties
Seemed like it got handled by emptying the TVA, which gave the opening for Sylvie to come in and not be seriously challenged. If not for Loki slowing her down, she's able to get past the door.
Was the first one. But ever since Wandavision had them in some episodes I've been checking to be careful.
I thought it was a distraction so she could infiltrate the TVA.
I haven't been as high on the last couple of episodes as they lose a lot of the mystery that made the first couple so alluring. But I'm still in love with the visuals. Lamentis so far seems like a throw away setting, and yet it is one of the coolest concepts in the MCU. The opening scenes of episode 4 gave me a big ol grin. Great sci-fi imagery if nothing else.
Tell me everything about Alligator Loki.
I love him.
I love him.
That's a pretty solid theory, I like this a lot.
This is a thing my nerd brain can't over both Lokis are asgardians (frost giants whatever) and Loki survive getting his shit rock by people like the hulk with only his ego hurt and can give Thor and Valkyrie (i remember Valkyrie in ragnarok show of some super strength) a fight
FATW seems to at least sell super strength better with super soldiers tearing through everyone but other super soldiers and falcon who has wings
You want all of that in just 6 episodes, huh? Are you forgetting the part where these shows and movies are all supposed to connect and build to another large cross over event? You might not "give a fucking shit", but those story beats are important to flesh out and build the new phase. Again, you're viewing Marvel content as one offs instead of a series of interconnected episodes.
So not even dare to hope something like this, after all the Reed hype in WV.
I'm sorry I view these shows as stories that should focus on their characters as opposed to "building the next plot phase." And 6 episodes is the equivalent to 5-6 hours. I'm sorry that the show seems to be unable to do what plenty films have done in less time. Moon is 95 minutes.
I liked the episode a lot and advancing the plot is valid. But it's 100% a worthy criticism to judge the show for itself and not just its larger place in the MCU plotline.
It doesn't need to be a character study but it does need to be satisfying unto itself.
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Also, FWIW, I think this TVA stuff is not going to be foundational to the next MCU phase, really. It's its own story, and that's fine.
It doesn't need to be a character study but it does need to be satisfying unto itself.
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Also, FWIW, I think this TVA stuff is not going to be foundational to the next MCU phase, really. It's its own story, and that's fine.
Kang is still my bet. I think they're going to save Doom for Phase 5