I don't see CM2, BP2, and GOTG3 all releasing in one year. Marvel seems to like to mix origin/first films in the MCU with sequels. Putting three (highly anticipated) sequels in the same calendar year doesn't seem start when they have so many stories and possibilities. I think we get two sequels in 2022, and the other in 2023
They've always been there, just like Hydra was always there and Skrulls/Kree were always there, and Spider-man had been active in the MCU for months before Civil War, etc.I wonder how Disney is going to hand wave mutants existing in the MCU all these years after all. I know some folks have speculated they will say the second snap caused some of the returned snapped to become mutants. The thing is if they go with that charade Magneto and Professor X will have no history with each other. The School of Mutants wouldn't exist. Wolverine couldn't be over 100 years old. The entire lore of the characters will be butchered.
They've always been there, just like Hydra was always there and Skrulls/Kree were always there, and Spider-man had been active in the MCU for months before Civil War, etc.
If they really need to give a reason, they could have Fury allied with Xavier; SHIELD had been keeping track of mutants and helping keeping them hidden until the world was ready to learn about them. Old Cap could tell a story about the Canadian operative he meet once on a joint covert mission during WW2
First Class kind of provided a template for that. The fear and concern was among the governments, the public didn't know about mutants yet, and Xavier is optimistic. Once the secret gets out (in the MCU), things would take a turn.But the major theme of X-Men is that people are aware of mutants and treat them poorly. If they were a top secret how could they face discrimination from the wider public? What would be the whole point of Charles Xavier and his School if the mutants right movement doesn't exist?
And why would the people of the MCU fear mutants when people worship the likes of Hulk and ask him for photographs? No matter how you slice it forcing the mutants into the MCU is going to break the lore.
SS is Aug 2021 which implies Guardians 3 can't start shooting until Sept 2021. Not enough time for any of those dates. Guardians 3 is likely a 2023 release. I feel kind of confident in that based on Gunn's tweet. They aren't starting on Guardians 3 until SS is done. There's not enough time for pre production, shooting, and post prod for any of the announced 2022 dates unless Marvel announces a November one, but even then that would be cutting it close. I also think CM2 will get 4 years between releases like Panther 2 and Thor 4. Strange 2 got 5 years between releases.
Feb 2022 is Panther 2. The other 2 are up in the air, but I'm guessing we do get an Ant Man 3 in July 2022 and for the May slot I'm guessing Deadpool or Blade.
I'd love if they introduced Wolverine in a Wolverine/Hulk movie (maybe introducing a new Hulk?) like they did in his first appearance in the comics. And then following that, do X-men, X-force, etc.I guess he said "Mutants" because they could do crossovers (like Black Panther and Spider-Man in Civil War) individual movies/shows to build up to an actual Xmen series.
I'd love if they introduced Wolverine in a Wolverine/Hulk movie (maybe introducing a new Hulk?) like they did in his first appearance in the comics. And then following that, do X-men, X-force, etc.
First Class kind of provided a template for that. The fear and concern was among the governments, the public didn't know about mutants yet, and Xavier is optimistic. Once the secret gets out (in the MCU), things would take a turn.
People would fear them for the same reason they fear them in the comics. The Avengers and other superheroes are heroes; mutants are ticking timebombs that could be anyone, anywhere. Plus after the entire planet just suffered from the Snap, in addition to the Accords, the notion that people with potentially dangerous powers could be hiding in plan sight would not be well received
But a solo Wolverine movie featuring the Hulk...Unfortunately all Hulk characters are contained within the deal with Universal, so a solo Hulk movie introducing Wolverine isn't in the cards.
No Jen Walters in the MCU, sadly.
I keep hearing about but everyone is still coy about this.It's a shame this Hulk deal also extends to other related characters, which is why Jen doesn't seem to exist in the MCU.
Yeah I kinda don't think we're getting another Ant-Man tbh. Shame because I love the characters. What I expect to happen is for Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lilly to pop up in other hero's stuff. And what about War Machine? I love Don and hope he isn't done with Mahvel.
Nah, they never even explored the Quantum Realm really. That alone is reason enough to have a 3rd movie.Yeah I kinda don't think we're getting another Ant-Man tbh. Shame because I love the characters. What I expect to happen is for Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lilly to pop up in other hero's stuff. And what about War Machine? I love Don and hope he isn't done with Mahvel.
Edit: and considering how much Renner and Rudd love each other I kind of expect Rudd to appear in Hawkeye.
You can say this about them in the comics too. There's almost always been a bit of dissonance there. I think if they lean on the angle that teenage mutants are randomly and more often now having their X-gene triggered in the middle of school where they often hurt other kids in the process, you can make a bit of a distinction for prejudice against them as opposed to other superheroes ("It's about safety in our schools!"). Make it so the X-Men have to stop a kid whose accidentally destroying a school and it becomes the event that breaks the camel's back.The hulk was a mutant ticking time bomb and yet in Endgame little kids were asking him for selfies and autographs. Their is even a Tom and Jerry's flavour of ice cream named after him. Why would someone like Storm or Cyclops be feared more than Hulk or Wanda?
CM was just this year and likely for 2022, I mean we didn't get GOTG2 after 3 years from 1.
Is this inception 2?Robert Downey Jr as Reed Richards, Chris Evans returns as Johnny Storm, Scarlet Johansson is Sue Storm.
I'm more interested in how they are going to change the origin of both Xavier and Mags.
Especially the latter, because he's a holocaust survivor. The Fox movies weren't always up to snuff, but they nailed Mag's origin and his motivations. Ian McKellen did a great job as old Mags and Fassbender was great as a young Erik. I still love the scene from First Class in which he found two Nazi's living their lives in Argentina and straight up killing them.
Maybe they'll pull a "my parents were holocaust survivors and even after all that they were brutally murdered by a group of anti-semitics which awakened my mutant powers"
The multiverse. They'll merge that stuff into the MCU from the Doctor Strange movie will be my best guess.I'm more interested in how they are going to change the origin of both Xavier and Mags.
Especially the latter, because he's a holocaust survivor. The Fox movies weren't always up to snuff, but they nailed Mag's origin and his motivations. Ian McKellen did a great job as old Mags and Fassbender was great as a young Erik. I still love the scene from First Class in which he found two Nazi's living their lives in Argentina and straight up killing them.
Maybe they'll pull a "my parents were holocaust survivors and even after all that they were brutally murdered by a group of anti-semitics which awakened my mutant powers"
I wonder how Disney is going to hand wave mutants existing in the MCU all these years after all. I know some folks have speculated they will say the second snap caused some of the returned snapped to become mutants. The thing is if they go with that charade Magneto and Professor X will have no history with each other. The School of Mutants wouldn't exist. Wolverine couldn't be over 100 years old. The entire lore of the characters will be butchered.
Where (if anywhere) do you think T'Challa and Carol will show up in the announced films for Phase 4? Will they get a decent role in one of them (e.g. Tony in Spider-Man, or everyone in Civil War), or are they going to try to avoid any sort of real interaction for the moment, let everything breathe?
I suppose the question can be extended to Scott, Hope, Bruce etc...
In case that this wasn't posted already the revealed movies/series for phase 4 is complete, everything after that (such as the movies in the OP) is phase 5.
Yeah.