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Martin Freeman (The Hobbit, Fargo) openly discusses hitting his two children and referring to them as "little f**kers" [see staff post]
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Wow. What a plot twist. I thought he wanted to say that he regretted it. And next he said "ill do it again"??????? In my country you can get lifetime jail without parole or pardon
If your children make you upset, give them the middle finger when their back is turned. It let's off steam and they don't know they got dissed.
I don't know how many generations it's going to take for spanking being wrong gets widespread acceptance. It's proven to be detrimental no matter how anyone feels.
I don't know how many generations it's going to take for spanking being wrong gets widespread acceptance. It's proven to be detrimental no matter how anyone feels.
"I was beaten as a child and It did me no harm" Say people who think it's fine to beat children. News flash, If you think striking children is okay, then being struck as a child did actually harm you.
I can appreciate how frustrating bringing up children can be but if your only solution is to beat them into obedience then you've failed as a parent.
I can appreciate how frustrating bringing up children can be but if your only solution is to beat them into obedience then you've failed as a parent.
Also, isn't Martin freeman a known cunt? I seem to recall hearing he made some pretty vile remarks about Lucy Liu and expressed racist views before.
This is one of those threads that's good to look at whenever some calls Era a "progressive hivemend." Meanwhile we need a staff post telling people it's not OK to advocate for beating the smallest, weakest, most powerless people on the planet just to show them who's boss.
it doesn't take "perfection" to not smack or hit people in your every day life. I would gather you or most people here don't smack your co workers if they've done something wrong, don't smack your pets if they aren't listening to you, don't smack the guy on the bus playing his music too loud, so why does applying that same level of logic or restraint to children require perfection to you? That's warped.
this is fine because the kid always has the opportunity to reverse the pressure back on you.
I don't hit my kids.
I feel like you can get the same results by just yelling at them or taking something away.
But these pile on threads on celebrities saying or admitting to dumb things is annoying.
There are a lot of things I don't like to see parents do that is just not limited to hitting kids, but its gets personal and uncomfortable if you start to criticize parents who just leave their kids in front of an iPad all day or don't do a good job teaching them basic skills.
I feel like you can get the same results by just yelling at them or taking something away.
But these pile on threads on celebrities saying or admitting to dumb things is annoying.
There are a lot of things I don't like to see parents do that is just not limited to hitting kids, but its gets personal and uncomfortable if you start to criticize parents who just leave their kids in front of an iPad all day or don't do a good job teaching them basic skills.
Exactly right. We are human. Parents get frustrated and make mistakes. No one is perfect. The important thing is to realize it was a mistake.
Honestly the important thing is to not hit your child if you're going to have one, something most parents manage.
if i lost my patience with a client at work and hit them i would lose my job. if i lost my patience with a coworker and hit them i would get charged with assault. if i lost patience with my cat and hit it i would get charged with animal cruelty.
if you lose patience with your child and hit them, you have assaulted them and deserve to be punished under the law.
"I'll do it again"
publically announcing that you will physically abuse your children without any legal repercussion... another perk or being a rich male white I guess?
publically announcing that you will physically abuse your children without any legal repercussion... another perk or being a rich male white I guess?
i'll never understand hitting kids, it's just not right
That's just you failing as a parent and taking your anger out on your kids because you're stressed. Kids really are little fuckers, but they didn't ask to be born and to deal with this shit ass world, it's your job to be strong for them.
Yes, this is natural though. Just on Saturday my 2 year old was standing on my bed and fell backwards and was gonna smash her head on the title so i kicked her in the ass (I was laying down) hard enough to shoot her back on the bed so she didn't get too hurt and even that made her cry and I can't imagine purposely doing that to her just because I was mad at her and not trying to prevent her from smashing her soft lil skull in.
That's just you failing as a parent and taking your anger out on your kids because you're stressed. Kids really are little fuckers, but they didn't ask to be born and to deal with this shit ass world, it's your job to be strong for them.
Yes, this is natural though. Just on Saturday my 2 year old was standing on my bed and fell backwards and was gonna smash her head on the title so i kicked her in the ass (I was laying down) hard enough to shoot her back on the bed so she didn't get too hurt and even that made her cry and I can't imagine purposely doing that to her just because I was mad at her and not trying to prevent her from smashing her soft lil skull in.
I did this to my oldest daughter when she was 2. I felt awful, but somehow she had gotten a plug cover off of a wall outlet and I walked into the room just as she went to try and stick a hairpin into it.
I lunged at her and swung hard enough to knock her 3-4 feet to my left.
I felt so bad, but I was attempting to save her and it was all instinctive/no thinking reaction.
I know you're banned but, Jesus, how much force do you think is needed to stop a toddler from walking forward?
And if your kid is in a situation that has escalated to mortal danger, where the hell are you that whole time?
I feel like every time I hear something new about Martin Freeman, it's just some new level of his shittiness.
In this day and age, I can see no reason for beating your children. Even if they piss you off and you think they are a little monsters, don't hit your kids.
Someone mentioned that yes, it is more work to use other forms of discipline, but that is your job as a parent.
Someone mentioned that yes, it is more work to use other forms of discipline, but that is your job as a parent.
There are so many ways to discipline a child, but they all require patience. Except smacking. Its shameful. Parents that do this are thinking more about themselves then what is best for the child.
Maybe its a cultural thing with him, that's why he does not thin its a big deal? I honestly don't know. it does seem weird he thinks its so commom.
Maybe its a cultural thing with him, that's why he does not thin its a big deal? I honestly don't know. it does seem weird he thinks its so commom.
American. I was spanked a few times as a kid (by either a wooden spoon, or an old paintbrush lol.) Can't say it had any kind of lasting impact on me. I don't think it was abuse, it didn't make me a violent person, it didn't make me suspicious of authority, scared of my parents, any of that stuff. Also don't think it was a particularly effective form of discipline since obviously I continued to act up, hence it happening more than once.
Now I am a parent and my wife and I agree we do not physically punish our children. Kids can be incredibly frustrating. That's why it's important to decide ahead of time to completely eliminate corporal punishment. If it's treated as a break glass in case of emergency last resort, guess what, you're gonna lose your temper and slap your kid without thinking it through.
Now I am a parent and my wife and I agree we do not physically punish our children. Kids can be incredibly frustrating. That's why it's important to decide ahead of time to completely eliminate corporal punishment. If it's treated as a break glass in case of emergency last resort, guess what, you're gonna lose your temper and slap your kid without thinking it through.
This is hardly the only topic where this gets revealed. It is always a little surprising (and very disturbing) how eager some people are to endorse hitting children, and the relish with which they describe doing so.
Until more countries outright make it illegal and enforce the law, I doubt the attitude will change soon on hitting kids being too personal of a culture and personal thing for others to comment on
i also feel it's one of those things others are afraid to call out because of cultural differences. I know in classes ive had, it becomes a race thing
white kids are too hesitant to call out POCs who think its okay to hit kids, while "time outs" are openly mocked as a sign of bad liberal parenting or "white parenting"
russel peters has an entire bit on this and i know it shaped and reinforced the perception a lot here in toronto.
i also feel it's one of those things others are afraid to call out because of cultural differences. I know in classes ive had, it becomes a race thing
white kids are too hesitant to call out POCs who think its okay to hit kids, while "time outs" are openly mocked as a sign of bad liberal parenting or "white parenting"
russel peters has an entire bit on this and i know it shaped and reinforced the perception a lot here in toronto.
Every time in these threads. At least it is bannable these days to advocate child abuse, as someone who suffered a great deal of "corporal punishment" and did not "turn out okay," I appreciate that.
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A reminder that corporal punishment has been studied extensively and has repeatedly be shown to be both ineffective and incapable of actually bringing about good outcomes while also having a whole host of negative outcomes
Martin always came off like an asshole, but a child abuser? That's a new low.
And HOLY FUCKING SHIT at the people here excusing this shit...
And HOLY FUCKING SHIT at the people here excusing this shit...
Yeah it's honestly fucking disgusting how some people bend over backwards to excuse this stuff
I'll never get over my dad beating me.
Striking your children (any children) under any circumstances is wrong.
Striking your children (any children) under any circumstances is wrong.
The problem with physical discipline is that once you start there eventually the child will push those limits. What is the next step after spanking? Some children are worse behaved then others, but I have yet to come across a child that cannot at some level be reasoned with. It just takes time, effort, and a lot of patience which situationally many parents find themselves lacking when discipline is delivered.
Same. I guess I'd never read up on him before or anything but this is such a bummer since I've always really enjoyed him in practically everything I've seen him in.
Hitting kids is archaic and should be left in the past but this kind of generalization is ridiculous, what does bigotry have anything to do with this
This is not always true. Many people just believe that spanking is an acceptable punishment for bad behaviour in children. It has nothing to do with anger or self control.
It's an issue where "turned out fine" is usually only using incredibly surface level observations to define it, people not wanting to accept their parents who they love were pretty shitty at what raising them (or worse, that they themselves are shitty parents), and ignoring that even if not every kid who is spanked ends up poorly, the fact that many do end up worse and all studies have shown that it's ineffective at improving outcomes. It's like people saying it's fine to give your kids cigarettes because not all of them die young of lung cancer, ignoring the host of other issues that might crop up because of the smoking habits they're likely to have, and that even for the kids that miraculously manage to avoid becoming lifelong smokers nobody is actually better off for the decision
Misworded. I should have added that I was referring to people who say that to defend hitting kids. That's usually not the only shitty belief these people hold
Yeah, many of them are just straight up ignorant (it doesn't help that the idea that the bible straight up advocates for physical punishment and people unfortunately tend to put more weight on religion than actual facts and evidence)
Don't hit your kids. Take a minute, leave the room and take a quick breath if you can. I have a two year old. I have a "scream-towel" I use every once in a while in the bathroom. For me...not my kid.
Hitting your kid really isn't teaching them anything positive. It's teaching them to be afraid of their parent. Then that might turn into them intentional hiding stuff from you at a later age because they are afraid the the repercussions.
Hitting your kid really isn't teaching them anything positive. It's teaching them to be afraid of their parent. Then that might turn into them intentional hiding stuff from you at a later age because they are afraid the the repercussions.
There are all sorts of motivations for abusers. None of which are reasonable.
It's also teaching them the idea that enforcing violence on others is a smart way to get them to do what you want
I knew that's what you meant and that's still quite a stretch that may be exclusive to your personal experience without any larger evidence