The next time there's a topic on temperature and someone argues Fahrenheit is better because it's more granular I'm going to ask why in that case they don't use centimetres instead of inches.
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Mario Day proves the superiority of Month/Day
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The next time there's a topic on temperature and someone argues Fahrenheit is better because it's more granular I'm going to ask why in that case they don't use centimetres instead of inches.
YYYY-MM-DD for anything technical or for file file systems. MM/DD for everything else.
DD/MM has no advantage, the only reason to use it is familiarity. For single dates neither notation is more useful, however when dealing with multiple dates I'm far more likely to be interested in finding all the dates in a given month. Good luck scanning a list of dates for all those in for example July, with them written in DD/MM. MM/DD is also superior for date ranges. With 7/10 - 8/20 I can immediately see I'm looking at multiple months, 10.07 - 20.08 is far less obvious.
So really, either notation is only useful for conveying information to other people, and for that MM/DD is the only one that has actual advantages over DD/MM.
DD/MM has no advantage, the only reason to use it is familiarity. For single dates neither notation is more useful, however when dealing with multiple dates I'm far more likely to be interested in finding all the dates in a given month. Good luck scanning a list of dates for all those in for example July, with them written in DD/MM. MM/DD is also superior for date ranges. With 7/10 - 8/20 I can immediately see I'm looking at multiple months, 10.07 - 20.08 is far less obvious.
So really, either notation is only useful for conveying information to other people, and for that MM/DD is the only one that has actual advantages over DD/MM.
Month/Day makes sense, Month/Day/Year is embarrassing, another thread reminding normal people to laugh at us date format. Good job op.
Not our fault that it's so easy
22/02/2022 has a better ring because it's the same both ways despite having zeroes in it though
Smallest to largest, MDY. Also it flows more naturally out loud, "March 10th, 2022" written sure, it looks clunky but it doesn't sound as bizarre as "10th of march, 2022" out loud, why the need for the extra of?
Day is important, but It doesn't need a qualifier if it's the same month, if it's a different month, I'm going to preface it with the month to make the conversation flow more naturally. "It's on the 10th" or "It's on April 10th".
People don't like it because it "granular " they like it because it's more relative to how a human experiences variances in temperature. cm are too small to be useful for how a human would measure things without a measuring stick. meters make far more sense (and their pretty much the same a yards as around 3 feet is something people can visualize ) just decimalizing makes certain powers of ten weird to common human experiences which is why most metrication took place before many of these people who use it before they were born.
Smallest to largest is DD/MM/YYYY, not MM/DD/YYYY. That is medium-smallest-largest.
You can use decimeters though, you do not need to go down to centimeters..
Smallest to largest is MDY? Months go to 12, Days go to 31, Years are currently at 4 digits and holding strong.
You suggest ordering by the the magnitude of the range? You must be shitting me.
Honestly, MDY because smallest to largest range is the lowest on the list for why, but it's there. The key factor is vocalizing it.
I only use ISO when coding. Otherwise I used MM/DD/YYYY, mostly MM/DD bc it sounds like how I would normally speak, eg April 20th (rather than the 20th of April which is needlessly verbose).
What is with the internet's obsession with bashing the imperial system of measurements and other country-specific ways of doing things? So some people know & use the imperial system and also understand metric as well and (maybe) use it for work or something. Who truly cares about this? When I'm in the kitchen making a recipe, I'm not brought to my knees with despair when a recipe calls for a tablespoon of sugar.
The other way around in Japanese. Though Japanese addresses usually don't include streets (the overwhelming majority of streets in Japan don't have names or numbers), but that's a whole other discussion.
Raises hand. Not only is it the national standard in a ton of countries, it's also the international standard globally.
It depends which language you're thinking in. If I'm thinking in English, then 7/10 - 8/20 is more immediately understandable (July 10th to August 20th). But if I'm thinking in French, then 10.07 - 20.08 works better (10 juillet - 20 août). Which is why this debate will never be settled, since not everyone reads dates the same way (not even within the same language).
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MMDDYYYY seems counterintuitive to me. I'll just assume you are going from smaller (day) to largest (year), so it's weird to skip that scale. But with all this things I don't think there are inheret beneifts to one system or the other just what you are used too. The metric system might be a bit better because it's more unviersal but that's it.
Going back to the month thing, I think the best option having the month in a three letter symbol (JAN, FEB, MAR, etc.) becuase in that case it doesn't really matter if month comes first or second, and removes the ambiguity.
Going back to the month thing, I think the best option having the month in a three letter symbol (JAN, FEB, MAR, etc.) becuase in that case it doesn't really matter if month comes first or second, and removes the ambiguity.
No, that's YYYYMMDD.
It's not everyone's guess, it's purely context dependant. For short term planing, day is the most important. For a longer period planing, it's month. In absolute, it's year.
Because with your own argumentation, year is the most important and should come first. Which gives you the ISO standard that most people agree is the best.
Granularity definitely was used in previous conversation as a supposed advantage of Fahrenheit, because, apparently, it's impossible to speak in half degree.
And relative to your human experience, sure, but when I read books with Fahrenheit in it, I have no idea what that mean (except the one by Ray Bradbury because its title is of course explained as soon as someone speak about it but knowing burning paper temperature is not that useful in day to day life 😁).
Both the hyphenated and unhyphenated versions are valid per ISO 8601.
Edit: oh wow I completely missed that that post was saying YYYY-DD-MM. That's such a nonsensical thing that my brain refused to process it.
No, you see, it makes perfect sense if you are a Terminator travelling back in time to murder someone who is employed part time on even days: First you'd want to make sure you're in the right year, and then you'd only care about the day of the month. The month itself is irrelevant.
MAR10
10th of March. Nintnedo these past few years made that day mario day cuz it looks like mario when spelt out like that
I'm English yeah, for other languages it makes no sense.
I think both YYYYMMDD and MMDDYYYY recognize that the month is more important for placing your frame of reference and navigating the calendar. YYYY just goes at the end because it's less important in a practical sense. People understand generally what year things are happening. Like if I said I need that report done by April 1st, you wouldn't be like what year, 2027? And if I asked what is the date today how would you even say 2022/03/09? or 09/03/2022 for that matter. It's March 9th.
Yes, but when translated to the most similar letters you get... Oᴟio day. Celebrating the german travel website Omio.
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other americans getting mad because people make fun of them for using a date format no one else uses is my favorite part of this site tbh
i only use day month year tbh, so i'm immune (unless you start getting into customary vs metric shit but i don't understand either)
If I say I need something for the 15th, you'll know from context it'll be 15th of march, giving the month is irrelevant.
If you want to take a calendar, you have to know from which year.
Which is to say: which part of a date is the most important is context dependent ( all contexts which happen regularly), stop trying to use it to justify MMDDYYYY. Heck, the day is actually the only one that is always needed to communicate a specific point in time, regardless of context.
For the last point: you do know there are other languages than English right? American English is the only language where MMDD makes sense verbally. Heck, even in english English you'll say 15th of March.
I think it's quite obvious this debate is primarily between English speakers on which date format works best for their language. Obviously if your language is constructed differently then the arguments here would be completely moot. Notice that I am typing in English and you are responding in English and this entire thread has been conducted in English so I don't know why the existence of other languages who may construct their sentences in completely different ways would have any relevance as to which date format makes sense for english speakers. I feel like saying 15th of March would be almost pompously formal lol. It's just missing an anno domini 2022 in there
Last I checked, they speak English in England. You know, the country the language comes from.
They usually use 15th of March.
that's........... that's such a stretch, even may the fourth makes more sense
May the 4th is common nomenclature which is why it works it's just a sound alike pun