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Manifold Garden will release on Xbox Series X|S as a next-gen upgrade at launch via Smart Delivery due to limited Dev Resources [Check Threadmarks]
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General question- has the Series S held back your vision for this game in any way? As a developer supporting the platform I would be interested in your view (even if its not too deep in detail)
Glad the air is cleared. I'm beginning to wonder too if the PS5 is a little trickier to make multiplat gamess on?
Get a Series Xbox and be done with it then. Even when the producer comes out and says it's because they are a small team you are still not convinced.
That's not true but whatever.
This is what I'd like to hear more about, from those who are actually working on the hardware
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What makes you think I'm still not convinced? This was literally my only response in this thread prior to her responding.
That's sounds so awesome!! Max draw distances in a game like this is blowing my mind just based on the trailers haha. I remember having a good (if frustrating) time with games like the Witness and Antechamber (I think that was the name?), will definitely have to check this out. If I have a Series X coming, should I wait to play until it comes? Or should I just get started now?
Or perhaps more like "How's your experience developing for the Series S been?"
Well you could always edit your post. It was the first response and it set the shitty tone for the thread
So, our game runs on low end to high end devices, from iPhone 6S all the way up to Xbox Series X. In terms of scalability we always knew that we would be able to hit Series S, but one of my favorite moments in development was realizing just how powerful it actually was (this was a bit before the public announcement.) Realizing that if you're playing on a 1080p or 1440p display, the game would look pretty much the same between Series S and Series X made me very, very happy, as I'm (and this is me personally, not representing the team or ANY studio I work with,) very much a fan of making sure people have lots of ways to experience games.
That said, I want to triple underscore that this isn't a news story saying "Xbox Series X|S launch title dev says games on Series S look the same as Series X outside of resolution," because every game is going to be different. I'm excitedly awaiting my Series X pre-order to arrive along with everyone else so I can see what cool stuff other devs have done on this hardware. For Manifold specifically, the devices are both really awesome.
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Edit so I don't double post (sorry not a super frequent poster so I'm not 100% on etiquette, apologies of this means it's harder to find)
You can play now and your save will carry over! There are actually two completely separate routes through the game, so if you have an Xbox One or One X, play the game normally, and then launch it on November 10th with your Series X, you can go for the 0% route where you don't complete any of the core objectives, explore the architecture in a new way, and still experience everything the Series X version brings to the table.
Scalability really is awesome and I promise it wasn't a gotcha. Thanks for clarifying and good luck with your launch
You tagged me and I said nor did anything you just said. I still think the situation is stupid, but until there's an actual explanation I'm not going to judge anyone about it. Maybe practice what you preach and don't assume things just because you felt the need to try to dunk on a bunch of users.
I wish I liked puzzle games, but unfortunately, they're not my thing. Game looks visually amazing and while I have no intention of playing this, I did the next best thing and told my friend about this, who does like puzzle games, and he's now interested in playing this. :)
Embarrassing start to the thread but fantastic to have a member of the dev team drop in. I hadn't heard of this game but it's on my radar now, looks neat. Looking forward to the Series X footage!
(Also interesting about Series S!)
(Also interesting about Series S!)
What do you mean by actual explanation? More than the one we already got?
It's because of this. I think even the most fanatic fanboy here has to begrudgingly agree that exclusivity deals to keep content off of competing platforms is kind of a dick move however you look at it due it not benefitting the consumer in any way. So the only way it can be rationalised is by pointing at anything Microsoft does that could be vaguely misinterpreted as the same kind of exclusivity deal no matter how ridiculous it is so as to say "Look, they do it too! See!" As if two wrongs make a right. Luckily Microsoft caught so much well deserved shit for their Rise of the Tomb Raider shenanigans that they don't seem to be all that keen to pull those stunts anymore, thank god.
I actually love threads like this though cause it's great ignore list fodder. I've realised that by coming into threads like this once a week or so and spamming ignore on all the people who are so blatantly console warring makes Resetera a far more tolerable place to read about and discuss things. I mean this first page alone is a goldmine.
The term actually originated in Penny Arcade. :) It predates Youtube by 5 years.
It Is Also Called "Moolah" - Penny Arcade
Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
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Are we ever going to see games based on ID Tech 8 engine and forward on PlayStation Consoles again? Storied Franchises like Doom and Wolfenstein?
I'd rather lose out on timed exclusives than losing out on old storied IP and game engines.
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oh, way worseThe term actually originated in Penny Arcade. :) It predates Youtube by 5 years.
It Is Also Called "Moolah" - Penny Arcade
Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
Hey, we don't have any plans for Game Pass. Don't want to talk too much about this just so the news story doesn't get away from us or anything, but just to make sure expectations are set correctly. The game is cross-buy through Smart Delivery at $19.99 USD/equivalent
Can't wait to play! Syrenne if i toss an extra 20 onto the game price you mind letting me play a bit early? :P
We don't know why the situation is the way it is, because they're not allowed to say. We just know what it isn't: a paid exclusivity deal. Which wasn't even a thing I implied but somehow I got grouped with the people who did. It could be Sony's fault for all I know. The situation is stupid.
2 diff scenarios. what you rather lose out on is irrelevant. respectfully.
a studio being bought by MS does not equate to a Sony moneyhat
If you pay the base $20 you can play now on any platform you'd like including Xbox One and One X - and the availability of the Series X|S version is only limited by how soon you can get your hands on the box :)
Ahhh I probably should've done more than a cursory glance :P I'll snag it up now, thanks!
Its no one's fault. They are making a choice not to talk about it yet is all.
Already got it, not finished cos the puzzles hurt my tiny brain 🧠, but will jump back in when my Series X arrives. Appreciate all the work you put in during a pandemic!
I went ahead and bought the game to support you. Thanks Syrenne . I look forward to playing it on Series X. :)
Really? That's cool, seems like a great looking indie but most likely not for me
I'm gonna pick this up as well . Never heard of it. I guess angry xbox threads are actually good for something haha.
1. Bash MS based on unsubstantiated rumor.
2. When 1 turn out to be false, pull both sides argument and insist Era is not PS biased.
Lol. All of you are batting 0% right now.
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All of this sounds awesome!! I have purchased the game :D
0% huh...
"Xbox Series X|S launch title dev advocates breaking into MS HQ to steal prototypes of new consoles in order to play her games early"
:p
Before you guys all assume something, maybe wait to get the facts first? Syrenne was gracious enough to come into the forums and explain the issue. Developers like them that are small and limited in funds needs our support by buying their game that they poured their heart & sole on. These games make the platform they are on special.
Seriously, this console war crap is bordering on North Korea vs South Korea conflict in the 50's and getting childish and idiotic. Who cares what console it's coming to first. Life isn't fair and you can't get your way all the time. If it comes to a platform you don't own first, oh well. Be patient and pre-order or buy it when it is available.
Syrenne, thank you very much on coming into the forums and clarifying the issue concerning the next gen console status on your game. I'm embarrassed to say that I never heard about this game before today and now I'm planning to buy it in the future (now on my wishlist) I can use more puzzle games to get my rusty old gears in my head working again. This game deserves a special place in everyone's library as I don't think we get puzzle games like these very often.
Seriously, this console war crap is bordering on North Korea vs South Korea conflict in the 50's and getting childish and idiotic. Who cares what console it's coming to first. Life isn't fair and you can't get your way all the time. If it comes to a platform you don't own first, oh well. Be patient and pre-order or buy it when it is available.
Syrenne, thank you very much on coming into the forums and clarifying the issue concerning the next gen console status on your game. I'm embarrassed to say that I never heard about this game before today and now I'm planning to buy it in the future (now on my wishlist) I can use more puzzle games to get my rusty old gears in my head working again. This game deserves a special place in everyone's library as I don't think we get puzzle games like these very often.
Don't sweat it. There can be a lot of conspiracy theorists floating around.
If anything, Sony paid capcom to release the game as fast as possible. Do you remember how that game even launched? What did Sony pay if they had to launch the game in that barebones state?
Wasn't it more the case that Capcom were quite tight with money at the time, so regardless of how it launched Sony still helped fund it.