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Mandatory.com delays paychecks for some employees, fires employee for asking why in company Slack
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You're cute. I've been here and done this so I'm not speaking in hypotheticals and you can check where I added even more clarification for you. I mean shit do you even know what the penalty is for the violation , You don't because do you think the company if they are even found guilty cares about posting a notice for 60 days admitting guilt and reminding employee's of their rights? So yeah, it's a smart move. He gets to fire the employee and maybe even absolve the company of the miniscule penalty.
He's the founder of some third-bit Playstation blog that weaseled his way into a VP position.
I don't feel like people that haven't been paid for an extended period and need that money to survive should be looked down on for demanding an explanation.
Remember, in this scenario, you also told those employees that paychecks didn't get cut due to holidays, and then changed your excuse the next week to say it's because the financial infrastructure hasn't been set up yet.
In this scenario you've also threatened the rest of the office with firings if they speak up as well.
As an aside, why would a company-wide g-chat be a good idea? If you don't want people discussing things relevant to all employees in front of everyone, seems like a pretty unfortunate door to leave swinging open.
She'd be on the bottom of a list of creditors during bankruptcy. A freelancer will never be paid if the company decides not to pay. There is pretty much zero recourse unless you didn't rely on the money anyway.
I was fired for handing out paychecks when I was told to hold them back for 10 day's. They gave me permission to cash mine but not my techs.
I handed them out and gave them a break to go deposit or cash their checks.
I handed them out and gave them a break to go deposit or cash their checks.
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Anyone defending this company in this situation is a bootlicker. Please, keep showing your asses in this thread as corporate lackeys.
Give the appearance of accountability and transparency, but retain the ability to make an example of someone.
States don't give unemployment to quitters, better to get fired, go through the hearing, and hope you get found as "not fired for cause" of a type which makes you ineligible.
I have been in this women's shoes before. I quit a job and my boss refused to pay because I wouldn't tell them who my new employer was. He threatened to sue me for signing an NDA and non compete clause. I no longer work in IT because of it and now fix medical equipment for a hospital. Long story short, tried to convince me that MD trade secret laws required me to tell him. Department of labor and threatening to seek further legal action got me paid.
You don't owe these people any professional courtesy, cause they are looking out for themselves. The only person looking out for you is you.
You don't owe these people any professional courtesy, cause they are looking out for themselves. The only person looking out for you is you.
I appreciate you didn't even address the bootlicker comment, since this comment just makes it significantly more clear that you're explicitly anti-labor. (Well, that, or you're pulling some bullshit devil's advocate stuff that isn't meaningfully different in terms of you being an awful person.)
Also, the stuff about the bulletin applies to violating the law merely by having the policy. When you fuck up like this and use an illegal prohibition as grounds for a firing, the recourse for that goes beyond just having to post the bulletin. If you were actually experienced in these issues, you'd know better than that. But, again, you're lacking a real understanding of the issue and are just parroting words you never understood in the first place, so I shouldn't have expected anything better from you.
You a real one. So many people will look away when it comes to making sure the employees that generate the profit in the first place get taken care of.
Of course we're assuming the company is near insolvent and will likely go belly up but yes she would get thrown on the creditors' list. So in the worst case, that's money lost no matter what the outcome. At which point I suppose you weigh any possible damage to your professional reputation giving the company the finger as you walk out the door.
Sounds like she's an independent contractor so I'm not sure how much protection she would get going that way as rules for firing/letting go of independent contractors is extremely loose. If she wanted to go that route, being aggressive publicly on the Slack was probably not the correct route to go as that could be constituted as cause.
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High tech open door policy that you know damn well you will get clapped if you used it
They are not getting paid MONEY the thing they are THERE TO DO. If that's not a reason to call regulators I don't know what is.
On a side note I learned that not being payed is a small problem to some people and that there is a landlord somewhere that allows their tenants to be perpetually behind on rent.
LOL the fucking corporate defense in this thread.
Company fails to pay employee.
ERA: But an employee said a mean thing though.
Company fails to pay employee.
ERA: But an employee said a mean thing though.
As soon as they said I could cash mine, I was like Nope, fuck that. These people have spouse's and children. Fuck you if I'm holding them back.
I hope her writing skills can help her land on her feet. Regardless, she should take heart that her reputation, conviction and morals are seen by the majority as good.
You mean, she could win a claim. Won't help her get actual MONEY since she'd have to collect it and they clearly don't pay debts. But getting in line quickly before bankruptcy proceedings is still a good plan.
There's a few contrarians that like to stir the poo is what I gained from it.
It was a general statement and not in defense of this shit company. Nonetheless, both parties were wrong in this instance. I really don't give a shit about Mandatory.com.
I don't know if it was one day or a week. The response would be contingent on the delay.
yeah, i'm now realizing that i should have asked for a rental application instead of laughing at him for saying her boss would have given her a bonus if she was nice about it
This is like cc'ing your boss' boss' boss every time your printer is misaligned. I would never use this to resolve an issue.
That does not make sense. So, behaving professionally is analogous to being a bootlicker now?
I would be code switching like a mofo, and if can't use a default avatr make sure i am business casual in my pic
Why would I respond to name calling?
And all of those significant penalties you think are due would come only after a civil suit. NLRB doesn't have true power to assign monetary damages. That only happens after being found in content for billing an existing NLRB order.
You would know this if you had been through the process.
Fucking wild that people need to even have this explained to them, but this is where we are now.
"don't get what they want" - Just to be clear, what they 'want' is the fucking money that is owed to them.
Lick lick lick, how's that boot taste?
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I don't know any company that isn't run by total incompetents that doesn't pay their employees without so much as an explanation. It's rotten and illegal.
It was a general statement. And like I said, I don't know how long they haven't paid her for. Too many childish insults from you, Kemal86.
Yes, covering payroll is the FIRST thing that should be done.
There are two kinds of people:
1. People who know what it's like to call your bank and beg them to waive overdraft fees on a regular basis
2. People who think Anthony Severino was in any way in the right
When a creditor or a utility blows up your phone and you finally pick up and promise them you'll make a payment Friday because that's payday... then Friday comes and your company doesn't pay and by the following Wednesday they STILL haven't paid, and now they're telling you it'll be "mid next week"?
Fuck that guy. You wanna blame someone for not being polite enough when calling him out for this? And say she deserved to be fired on the spot for it?? When she's a creative freelancer and he's posing in tailored suits in all his avatar pics? If so... I dunno. I'll just say you're on the wrong side of this if you're on the company's side.
1. People who know what it's like to call your bank and beg them to waive overdraft fees on a regular basis
2. People who think Anthony Severino was in any way in the right
When a creditor or a utility blows up your phone and you finally pick up and promise them you'll make a payment Friday because that's payday... then Friday comes and your company doesn't pay and by the following Wednesday they STILL haven't paid, and now they're telling you it'll be "mid next week"?
Fuck that guy. You wanna blame someone for not being polite enough when calling him out for this? And say she deserved to be fired on the spot for it?? When she's a creative freelancer and he's posing in tailored suits in all his avatar pics? If so... I dunno. I'll just say you're on the wrong side of this if you're on the company's side.
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She was pretty unprofessional there...
Then again, I would be unprofessional as well if I didn't get paid on time so I can't blame her.
Then again, I would be unprofessional as well if I didn't get paid on time so I can't blame her.
It wouldn't feel right if we didn't generalize.
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In an effort to be more professional, we shall henceforth use the term "corporate apologist".
1000 times this. It's frustrating to see people equate anything that's not "fuck mandatory.com!!" as "corporate bootlicking"
She was absolutely correct in asking in the company slack because it was a company issue, a labor issue that affected most(?) of the workers, and she now has witnesses and evidence to the behavior.
The company should have been more transparent with the circumstances around payment, it's not as if a missed or delayed paycheck couldn't entirely fuck up someone's living situation. No sympathy for management just because she decided to hold them accountable
The company should have been more transparent with the circumstances around payment, it's not as if a missed or delayed paycheck couldn't entirely fuck up someone's living situation. No sympathy for management just because she decided to hold them accountable
When you call for civility in the face of workers' rights violations, abso-fucking-lutely.