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Man, Shredder was a complete wimp in the 80s TMNT cartoon.
- Thread starter Uzumaki Goku
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Yeah, that episode was called Cowabunga Shred-Head, if I'm remembering right. Mikey and shredder switched bodies
It's not limited to Shredder, most cartoon villains were written as ineffectual jokes. You can see this with Skeletor in the original He-Man cartoons, there were others written and portrayed the same way. Why?
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
Or the violence in the cartoons is the reason. Violence? Can't have them using their weapons. Nope, only indirect use that hits something else to maybe trap the bad guys. Cartoons were neutered hard due to advocate groups going on a crusade. Threatening evil characters became a pale imitation of what they were to help be less threatening and violent.
For a country that loves guns and says everyone should have one they really did kinda go nuts about cartoons showing such things.
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
Or the violence in the cartoons is the reason. Violence? Can't have them using their weapons. Nope, only indirect use that hits something else to maybe trap the bad guys. Cartoons were neutered hard due to advocate groups going on a crusade. Threatening evil characters became a pale imitation of what they were to help be less threatening and violent.
For a country that loves guns and says everyone should have one they really did kinda go nuts about cartoons showing such things.
I can't believe Hun didn't realize that his master was an alien walking around in a robotic exo-suit.
I don't think they switched bodies. Shredder somehow became brainwashed into thinking he was Michaelangelo.
It's crazy how much this happened to shows from the 80s. Ghostbusters went through what felt like a dozen art style changes.
The 2K series was always closer to the comics, so I'm okay with some of the wackier elements.
2003 had coolest shredder. Best character design and felt really threatning.
Leo in that gif haha
Leo in that gif haha
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Yeah and those were kind of bad, they're usually referred as the "red sky seasons" or something like that because the sky almost always was a shade of red. The 2003 series was better for a more "serious and closer to the comic" TMNT series, note I haven't seen the 2012 one nor the more recent one. For another comedic approach there's the live action series but that one is better forgotten and never talked about.
Yes, although the turtles used Krang's suit thing near the end of the series if I recall correctly.
Remember when Shredder's mom came to visit and kept embarrassing him in front of the other villains?
Good times.
I was about to mention that episode, it was great.
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Why that's not a skin in MK11 I have no idea.
Anybody remember the time Sub Zero looked like Shredder?
Still the coolest look.
Definitely Cobra Commander, he fits it to a T. Megatron was genuinely more of a threat but he was a huge robot so likely the normal rules didn't apply to him as much as a living being would. Even if all Transformers were actually alive and felt things.
Meanwhile, let's see the villains for CareBears and My Little Pony....
Shredder could learn something from the villains of 80s girl cartoons.
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Uh.... wow.Meanwhile, let's see the villains for CareBears and My Little Pony....
Shredder could learn something from the villains of 80s girl cartoons.
GI Joe Resolute, Renegades, and even Sigma 6 had competent incarnations of Cobra Commander.
I had the same reaction to that as I did to the Rob Lowe inspired updated Wayne's World theme in the movie..... ewww
Meanwhile, let's see the villains for CareBears and My Little Pony....
Shredder could learn something from the villains of 80s girl cartoons.
Later he was portrayed as less evil/threatening. Can't be allowed to scare kids as he originally did.
Resolute was a special thing entirely and it kicked much ass.
Renegade and Sigma 6 came much later after the original cartoon when rules/laws/mindsets had changed.
Always felt that the crossover ended up being a waste in how they treated them being stupid as a brick(which they weren't even with their goofyness), it felt like it was written by some edgy teenager who grew up with the 80s series and now hated it for no reason.
Well I guess Mon*Star remains as the best 80s cartoon villian.
I guess I never got tired of seeing that sequence every other episode of Silverhawks.
It's crazy how much this happened to shows from the 80s. Ghostbusters went through what felt like a dozen art style changes.
I remember hearing something that in the particular case of Janine that executives wanted her looks changed to look less evil and threatening or something like that which is why her hairdo changed and she got round glasses.
Same reason why Saban made a fucking fool out of Lord Zedd and Ted Turner lobbied to get Swat Kats cancelled.
Some shows always got hit harder than others. Why? It's honestly hard to say but probably has to deal with how human a character may or may not be.
As for Janine her mandated change was such an issue J. Michael Straczynski took issue with the whole thing and actually quit. Later he did return a season or two later and wrote an episode that dealt with the matter directly.
Yup that's exactly what happened to Zedd. Swat Kats were killing it in the ratings, it was a huge hit. But ol Teddy didn't like the violence so yeah it had to go. Thankfully Ted said he had a lot of Hanna-Barbera shows that weren't violent which depending on matters wasn't always exactly true due to age and the mindsets of various episode creation dates.
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Meanwhile, let's see the villains for CareBears and My Little Pony....
Shredder could learn something from the villains of 80s girl cartoons.
Not sure if girl cartoon, but dreamstone also had a pretty baddass villain for a cartoon with cute themes of dreams
I mean this is the main cast
The Mandarin and MODOK had a similar dynamic from the Iron Man cartoon.
At least we got a proper send off afterwards with the release of the Lost Episodes, or the Ninja Tribunal arc. Shame, there is no way to watch it nowadays without pirating it.
Shredder in the kids show was a baddie for... well a kid show. If you want the real Shredder, read the comics.
1) Why the fuck would you consider this theme tune compared to the old one?
2) When did Leonardo become a Jedi capable of deflecting laser blasts with a sword?
When I finally got my hands on Volume 1, it rocked my world to find out that the entire reason Splinter trains the TMNT isn't because he's a good guy who wants to pass on his knowledge of the martial arts to a new generation, but because he wants bloody revenge for his fallen master. Ralph's first mission is to throw a brick through the window of a Foot clan lair, mobster style.
Man, reading the OG TMNT comics would leave some folks shook.
This is not entirely true. The Shredder does come back and beat the turtles badly.
Yeah, animated Shredder never scared me as a kid and was usually just goofy. The movie version on the other hand (especially roided up in Shredder in Secret of the Ooze) definitely creeped me out.
I vaguely remember this but I was pretty much done with cartoons at this point when I was younger.
I've heard the original comics were very dark on many occasions. I really wanted to check them out when I was younger but never got around to it.
The Dreamstone was a British show, mind, and we weren't shy about scaring the shit out of kids.Not sure if girl cartoon, but dreamstone also had a pretty baddass villain for a cartoon with cute themes of dreams
The comics often and inexplicably shift from dark to whimsical. In one issue you're reading about Casey and Apri's dysfunctional relationship and in another issue, the turtles are traveling through time and space with an absurdly buxom airhead.
Also, the Kraang are a benevolent race. They just LOOK evil.
Cartoons in the 80s had a lot of rules. Like no real violence against humans.
Ever notice the only things to get actually shot and stabbed in those old shows are robots? Even GI Joe introduces robot Cobra soldiers.
Ever notice the only things to get actually shot and stabbed in those old shows are robots? Even GI Joe introduces robot Cobra soldiers.
I agree. Shredder was more menacing in the 2003 version & in the 2012 version of TMNT.
Plus in the 2012 version, Bebop & Rocksteady were more smarter & actually gave the turtles a run for their money, unlike in the 1987 version.
lmao I specifically remember original Jeanine weirding me out as a little kidIt's crazy how much this happened to shows from the 80s. Ghostbusters went through what felt like a dozen art style changes.
then she turned into a bug person in Extreme Ghostbusters.
...i wasn't scared then...