I mean if you're traveling around the area and have some money to spare I can see someone ponying up for a transit there
Immigration is a dick to me because I'm Nigerian stop me and basically interrogate me I once had someone from the embassy that my family knew and were friends with so I wouldn't waste time
There's a difference between a domestic terminal from an international terminal.
People who fly business class definitely do.
This does not provide good reasoning for that law.I'm sure many of you didn't click on the link but there's a good reason for this rule at this airport. This is what it looks like inside:
Why can't you fault them? It's bullshit authoritarianism and they still employ torture like caning.
People are buying tickets and not flying and even getting refunds on their tickets just to hang out there. One person stayed for 18 days.
Seems a bit snobby and elitist. I'd never not go to a country or city with the airport as a chief or even minor consideration. Maybe location from town I would pick one airport over another, but that's about it. It's a transportation building. Don't really need primping and lounge access to get somewhere.
I travel pretty frequently. For work and pleasure, locally and internationally.
When an airport looks more cozy than any living room you will ever live in.I'm sure many of you didn't click on the link but there's a good reason for this rule at this airport. This is what it looks like inside:
They run a prosperous city with good social safety nets. The police generally don't go around killing people like they do here. The prison conditions are pretty awful IIRC but there's nothing like the private prison industry in the US. I'm vaguely aware of some racism issues with regards to Chinese/Indigenous but I haven't looked too closely there. Wealth gap is pretty bad but every major city at that level has massive wealth gaps. Death penalty sucks for sure, and their attitude about drugs isn't great either.
That's still not a good reason to send someone to prison for two years or fine them 15k. Kick them out, hell blacklist them from that airport if you want. Don't send them to prison or fine the hell out of them for something that harms no one.
Like, I'm not arguing that extra amenities aren't great. I get that they are! I'm just saying I would not skip a city just because the airport is maybe crappy. And if a layover is that long and no visa is required for entry in the country, I'd do my best to try to see the city anyway rather than stay in any airport - even this one which I was in last year.
I'd advise people to just go to a damn botanical garden.I'm sure many of you didn't click on the link but there's a good reason for this rule at this airport. This is what it looks like inside:
Yeah, Singapore should be condemned for executing (murdering) a large number of people, in the 90s sometimes 50+ people executed per year just for drug users and traffickers, note that this is a city with smaller population that Greater Toronto. Singapore should be condemned for the practice of caning, as always.
I didn't claim they were the worst state in existence, just that there is plenty to criticize them for. This would be one of those times where it is appropriate.They run a prosperous city with good social safety nets. The police generally don't go around killing people like they do here. The prison conditions are pretty awful IIRC but there's nothing like the private prison industry in the US. I'm vaguely aware of some racism issues with regards to Chinese/Indigenous but I haven't looked too closely there. Wealth gap is pretty bad but every major city at that level has massive wealth gaps. Death penalty sucks for sure, and their attitude about drugs isn't great either.
It's not my ideal vision of a state but it does a lot of things better than the US despite being "authoritarian". Philosophically, I don't truck with authoritarianism, but I'd be lying if I said it always leads to the worst macro conditions for human living. Sometimes they succeed where democracies fail.
Fair enough. I feel the same way in I would prefer to visit the city itself but I don't fly frequently to the point I don't have a good grasp on why some people prefer to stay close to the airport for hours on end.
I did say I don't think it's appropriate, but they run a better country than we do despite our liberal norms and morals, so what leg do I have to stand on except ideological exceptionalism?
Yeah that rate of executions is disgusting, especially for drug offenses. Having any executions at all is disgusting, frankly, but this is especially worthy of condemnation.
Maybe if the US was the size of a single large city you'd have a point, otherwise I don't think an 'ends justifies the means' approach is particularly valid here. Like canning people as punishment is unacceptable, capital punishment is unacceptable. It's just as unacceptable when the US does it. You of all people should know that given your normal posts on here. Seeing you cape for Singapore's draconian justice system is weird.
On these specific issues (social safety net, police brutality, and mass incarceration), Singapore is far less problematic than the US, this is true.
If our liberal cities produced better results, I'd be more inclined to criticize Singapore, but on average, to my knowledge, they don't. I'm an obstinate consequentialist. Authoritarian police state vs liberal corporate corruption seems to tip in favor of the police state in terms of general human welfare. I wish it didn't work out like this but it does.
They may run a better country than US in most aspects, though a city state which has all the transportation and trade hub advantages in the world is hardly comparable to a massive diverse country like the US; Singapore is not a better run country than Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Finland or Netherlands, which happen to be countries with some of the best human right records in the world. Liberal morals and norms do tend to lead to great societies, Singapore is more the exception.
Right but Singapore can be a better place to live for the average person than a lot of places and still be engaging in human rights abuses and thus deserving of criticism for that. They aren't mutually exclusive.
And at the time we didn't even realize that they were all terrorists!
