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Seems to be unfounded anyway, but an actor with more of Joel's "quiet sociopath" energy would probably be a better fit unless they plan to diverge a lot from the games.
Yeah, this where i'm at. He has been great in everything I've seen him in but this seems like a stretch. Need to know more how they are adapting the story.
With games you have frequent combat encounters that you have to account for, that's something that just isn't going to happen with a TV show. There's obviously still going to be action, but it's not going to be anything like the games. But those combat sections a huge part of the game. So, if those are being pulled out then it means something is going to have to replace them. In which case the obvious thing would be more down time with dialog and character development. The pacing and structure of a TV show is inherently going to be very different than a game.
It's funny because all the praise you ever see about someone like Gary Oldman is that he is a chameleon and blend into literally any kind of role. So why can't Ali also do that?
Man, I'd watch it in a heartbeat.
An issue I've had with translating Naughty Dog's narrative-heavy games to film/screen is how you'd see so few NEW things in that transition. You can easily map it all 1:1 from the way the games look to a movie/TV show... so doing something like casting Joel as someone who doesn't look just like the character but can still represent fatherhood and the "f**k you, got mine" ending is a cool way to keep it fresh.
An issue I've had with translating Naughty Dog's narrative-heavy games to film/screen is how you'd see so few NEW things in that transition. You can easily map it all 1:1 from the way the games look to a movie/TV show... so doing something like casting Joel as someone who doesn't look just like the character but can still represent fatherhood and the "f**k you, got mine" ending is a cool way to keep it fresh.
What's interesting is that Troy has said that he almost walked out of the audition for Joel because in the waiting room were a bunch of guys that were older and looked like they could play Joel, and he wasn't confident that he was right for the part. He just got up to leave when his name was called.
Look at how non-world-weary this person is—could never be Joel.
This is what I fear. I am afraid we are going to get attached to the possibility of a genuinely interesting choice, only to receive someone far less qualified down the line.
See. He is one of - truly - the best actors ever conceived. Like he's utterly incredible in everything he's ever been and Naughty Dog (and the fans) should be grateful his agent even took the call on this.
If they do, seems like a missed opportunity to just diverge from the Joel and Ellie story and craft a new cast. But I guess that's what everyone wanted to begin with...
This would be amazing. He's an incredible actor that would get a lot more people than just fans interested in the show. But oh boy the fucking racist gamers will be bitching and moaning. But fuck them.
This seems like too high profile of an actor for the job. Maybe HBO is going all in on the project. That could be cool.
Oh man, I can absolutely see the quiet sociopath id with him during True Detective season 3- did you catch that?
I mean they look nothing alike, I'd prefer someone with a close resemblance if its gonna be a character I didn't imagine.
People thinking a tv adaptation, even a game accurate one, is going to spend entire episodes making sure we understand how they use scissor blades and tape to craft shit are in for a rude awakening.
Like, most game movies are terrible because they try to come up with some random story they think is better than the game's and then wink at game mechanics throughout. Focus on a good adaptation of the existing story first and the rest is icing on the cake.
Like, most game movies are terrible because they try to come up with some random story they think is better than the game's and then wink at game mechanics throughout. Focus on a good adaptation of the existing story first and the rest is icing on the cake.
It's kind of why I don't believe this, because he seems too big to take a part like this to me...
Jackman is friends with the Trumps, so I'm good with it not being him.
I mean I figure if the show goes well once it starts then the likely adaptation of the second game would be coming.
I think someone can be optimistic for the role, and still be disappointed that a character in their favorite videogame isn't a visual match on-screen. I don't think that necessarily makes someone racist (even though plenty of racists will use that excuse). Honestly, something like this just means we need more diversity in videogames.
Nah, never seen the show. But actually thinking back to some other things I've seen him in he definitely could bring that energy lol.
Would definitely be interesting to see how the show plays out if he's cast.
He's an incredible actor but I don't see how he's above a prestige HBO series, even one about a video game. His star (sadly for reasons we can all guess) isn't quite that bright yet. He's done two major tv series roles in the last 2-3 years.
The only reason I hesitate on this casting is the absolute shit that will be spewed Ali's way. "Fans" couldn't handle it when one of the female characters had some muscle definition. Their reaction to a black man in the lead role will probably be worse.
On the other hand, why compromise the potential quality of a character's representation of their personality/tonal execution over appearance?
Hollywood does what Naughty Dog don't.😂 Better be true. Love Mahershala as an actor.
On a serious note, I am worried of the implications of this considering the fate of Joel in Part 2 and ND's approach/treatment of black/african-american/POC characters in their games in the past. Will the HBO show change some of the events that occured in the first TLOU to avoid it? 🤔
This would be monumentally bad casting if it turns out to be true. Mahershala is a great actor but is about as far away from Joel's energy and grit as I can imagine. Viggo Mortenson or Idris Elba or Nikolaj or someone of that ilk would be FAR better.
That reminds me to watch that movie he was in that won an oscar for best film. I only know he's a father in the movie and nothing else. (Moonlight something)
Prestige TV is a thing and Ali already did Season Three of True Detective for HBO.