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MafiEra Mafia |OT| The Day of the Blargonauts
- Thread starter The Bear
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Yeah, it was, I assume that he can't inherit the bomb if Faddy dies and gets to use the power. Being shot wouldn't have made him explode though so then I think that role can be passed on since it's still unused.
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==== DAY 6 VOTES ====
Day Start
malus (4 votes)
ezekelrage - #5,453
ceecee - #5,675
sorian - #5,693
fireblend - #5,695
sawneeks (3 votes)
natiko - #5,670
fantomas - #5,742
brazil - #5,802
fireblend (2 votes)
fantomas - #5,571 #5,742
sawneeks - #5,662 #5,800
dr. monkey - #5,760
blargonaut - #5,774 #5,894
fluxwavez - #5,778
brazil (1 votes)
sorian - #5,680 #5,693
sawneeks - #5,854
sorian (0 votes)
brazil - #5,410 #5,414
blargonaut - #5,567 #5,657
ceecee (0 votes)
fluxwavez - #5,507 #5,778
Post Counts:
blargonaut: 68 dr. monkey: 61 sorian: 54 fantomas: 51 ezekelrage: 50 brazil: 39 fireblend: 38 sawneeks: 38 natiko: 25 fluxwavez: 20 rac: 19 kyanrute: 15 grizzly: 8 ceecee: 5 malus: 4 lone_prodigy: 3
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Day Start
malus (4 votes)
ezekelrage - #5,453
ceecee - #5,675
sorian - #5,693
fireblend - #5,695
sawneeks (3 votes)
natiko - #5,670
fantomas - #5,742
brazil - #5,802
fireblend (2 votes)
dr. monkey - #5,760
fluxwavez - #5,778
brazil (1 votes)
sawneeks - #5,854
sorian (0 votes)
ceecee (0 votes)
Post Counts:
blargonaut: 68 dr. monkey: 61 sorian: 54 fantomas: 51 ezekelrage: 50 brazil: 39 fireblend: 38 sawneeks: 38 natiko: 25 fluxwavez: 20 rac: 19 kyanrute: 15 grizzly: 8 ceecee: 5 malus: 4 lone_prodigy: 3
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Oh, Rac.
Fine.
Vote: Malus
I'll say that I feel somewhat better about Saw here after seeing her defend herself from Brazil. Also, I think I'll finally just go ahead and commit to wanting that Malus flip today, the connections that I've seen and the others that have been pointed out now with Pirate Bae being Scum seem like the final straw to me following the other reasons I've had to be suspicious of him for so long now.
He's kind of right though, me just throwing my vote around all day even though I want the Malus flip isn't really helping Town out I don't think.
Also I'm seeing you, a Town read, CeeCee, who I still think is Town, plus the two seemingly helpful Neutrals on the vote. No reason for me to think Scum is trying to prop up Malus today so far.
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Okay, so Pineapple Pizza gets voted as the next modifier and if Fireblend is still around, we lynch him. Fine.
I'm still voting for McDonald's.
Vote: malus
We obviously can't move on without this lynch. It's been a sticking point since D3. So let's just get this over with. I don't believe either him or Brazil are scum at this point.
I'm still voting for McDonald's.
Vote: malus
We obviously can't move on without this lynch. It's been a sticking point since D3. So let's just get this over with. I don't believe either him or Brazil are scum at this point.
Well if you have a good case to make, I'd much rather not mislynch someone. Monkey obviously believes Malus to be Town as well, so you're not alone there. What are your thoughts on the various points that have been brought up that can connect him to Bae?
I highly doubt Pineapple Pizza will have a post restriction, so what do we do with Brazil's claim?
EzekelRAGE
RE: Modifier votes
I went and took a look through them as promised. I tried to look at people that A) voted Brazil B) suspected Brazil but did not vote him and C) people that voted for a game they had not previously voted for (I took into consideration whether all of their previous games had been selected already as well). This left me with the following as people that still qualified:
Time to catch up on the thread.
RE: Modifier votes
I went and took a look through them as promised. I tried to look at people that A) voted Brazil B) suspected Brazil but did not vote him and C) people that voted for a game they had not previously voted for (I took into consideration whether all of their previous games had been selected already as well). This left me with the following as people that still qualified:
- EzekelRAGE - Voted Star Wars without previously voting for it. Voted for Brazil.
- Dr. Monkey - Voted Star Wars without previously voting for it. Scumread Brazil but opted to vote Fand
- Sorian - Voted Bar 2 without previously voting for it. Voted for Brazil.
- FluxWaveZ - Voted Bar 2 without previously voting for it. Voted for Brazil.
- Sawneeks - Voted Bar 2 without previously voting for it. Voted for Brazil.
- kyanrute - Voted Heroes v Villains without previously voting for it. Scumread Brazil but opted to vote Fand
Time to catch up on the thread.
Pineapple Pizza had three roles that don't get used that often: innocent child, beloved princess, and a scum who was a sort of self-janitor. That one scares me a little, as it's the last thing we need, but it also seems like a stretch that would be the modifier, right? No flips?
I would like to hear from him today still for sure now that we have evidence of 2 roles that have to do with the modifiers being Neutral, and his being the odd man out of the bunch the way I see it.
Like, the two Neutral's had a very clear idea of which modifier they needed and, at least in Sorian's case, how it would affect the game. Brazil's? Vague wording about post restrictions, of which we have seen only one candidate and he did not prove or breadcrumb during it, of which people seem to be reaching when trying to think of things that could also count (haikus, etc.).
I would say his claim seems less believable to me now than it did before, and it already wasn't very believable.
Going to try to not do as huge of post blocks before I respond (especially since I don't want to lose shit to the multiquote bug):
Yes, that is part of it though I never personally went back and quoted her exchanges from that day.
Malus voted for Bae prior to Fran claiming he was not going to use the override. I don't know that I would put much stock into votes prior to that because people likely thought they wouldn't matter.
If you want to scumread me for the words "if true" when I was just finding out that I was off base on 2/3 of my top scumreads then be my guest.
Or it could be that my read on her was predicated on my read on ket - if you look at my posts directed towards Bae that should be evident? I never even went back and grabbed any of this shit, everyone else did.
That would seem a bit out there, yeah. It will probably just be something we have no way of guessing.
The crux of this comes to speculation regarding malus' D2 chart and then immediate vote on Pirate Bae which he then openly regrets putting down, right?
It's hard to make anything of it. There are possibilities where it was an actual plan to silently support Pirate Bae before her claim was made (while also creating a separation with the vote itself for the future), during a day where the vote apparently didn't matter.
There are also possibilities where the graph was earnest, malus' reason for the vote was earnest (and also placed semi-randomly because the implications of a vote during that day phase are most acknowledged in retrospect, plus the fact that we generally thought votes "didn't really matter"). Then there's the part where we can say that scum wouldn't place a locked vote on another that day phase when there had been no particular attention placed on them until there, aside from the KetKat defense.
I'd like to point this out:
At a critical time where votes were tied between turmoil and I, where people tried to decide who to believe, I had thought I reached my post limit. malus actually pointed out that I still had 1 more post to make, where I could say more for my position before my possible death. Why would scum help me like this instead of staying silent about the fact that I could make another post? It'd be pretty weird, in any case.
Hm. Well, here's how I see things right now:
Town
Fantomas
Leaning Town
Brazil
malus
Dr. Monkey
Sawneeks
CeeCee (very reluctantly)
Neutral (non-threat?)
Sorian
Fireblend
The rest I don't know about. I'm not particularly leaning scum on many, but right now just from a gut feeling, I'd want to focus on:
1. EsekelRAGE
2. rac
3. Natiko
I still don't believe Brazil's role at all. I don't necessarily think it makes him scum, and it could be town having come up with a quick lie, but I want him to fess up to it sooner than later.
Indeed I'll admit, it does come down to the fact that we are playing a bit of WIFOM about how Scum interacts with their teammates. I'm sure the ghost of Fran would post the Princess Bride gif for us if he could.
The other point is how he was moved out of Pirate Bae's scum list after being there at the end of D2 alongside Turmoil and on D3 ahead of Faddy and Fandorin. I can see the point that she would do the "Scum Sandwich" as Monkey called it I believe, leaving Town on either side of her teammate. But the fact that she backed down from that read altogether the next day simply because he had voted after the hammer, which is something I think a lot of us have concluded is NAI really. I don't know, to me there are connections from him to Bae, and from Bae to him, that make him look at least somewhat suspect in addition to the fact that he has been being widely scum read for a while now by a lot of players.
As for your reads list, I would say Natiko is the one I'm most concerned about on a gut level at this stage, but that could just be me refusing to think there isn't Scum between him and Sawneeks, so it's not a firm read on him yet, I still need to ISO him properly I think. I can try to get that done before EoD here since I am probably not going to be alive for much longer.
VOTE: Sawneeks
hi Sawneeks I've been meaning to say to you for a long time now, I deserve to be punished for being a terrible player and I don't want you to feel bad for doing this: from now on if I don't contribute every 7 days in the D&D game please continue the scene(s) without me, feel free to puppeteer or have someone puppeteer my character for that round as you narratively see fit even if it means me coming back to a dead or damaged char I don't mind I need hardcore discipline please do this for me starting today no regrets all sorries
hi Sawneeks I've been meaning to say to you for a long time now, I deserve to be punished for being a terrible player and I don't want you to feel bad for doing this: from now on if I don't contribute every 7 days in the D&D game please continue the scene(s) without me, feel free to puppeteer or have someone puppeteer my character for that round as you narratively see fit even if it means me coming back to a dead or damaged char I don't mind I need hardcore discipline please do this for me starting today no regrets all sorries
My read on malus hasn't changed, I still just think Saw is also scum and will yell about it until I die or her alignment is revealed.
Seems like a trap on the surface, but if so I don't see why you wouldn't have just made this play earlier so sure.
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Well the difference could be that two of them belong to neutrals and exist to give them a unique wincon versus a weak town PR that simply exists to counter some currently unknown amount of modifiers.
Fair yeah. It just felt off to me in comparison because of how vague it seems to be compared to their's, but since they do have win-cons involved that does make sense. 6 days and only one modifier that has something to do with a post restriction is starting to get kind of suspect too though in terms of how much value that role would even give to someone in the first place, but of course we could just be getting lucky too.
Why to all of this post? Why still vote Mcdonald's for no reason? Why lynch someone you don't think is scum.
Welcome to the party, I left refreshments on the table.
Yeah, I will agree that it's a bit odd. Maybe there's post restrictions in NX and one of the unknown games. That would seem like a more reasonable amount at least to justify such a PR.