Shame for him he's propositioned the most unbribeable, stubborn, by-the-book players in the game
Currently leaning scum for Blarg.
The start was interesting but he has been only noise for a while.
Vote: Pirate Bae
I mentioned this before I went to bed, but I see this as a good choice for me. I haven't played with her yet, but I am friends with her outside the game, so I think I would get valuable info in seeing how she ultimately makes this decision and it would help me to get a read on her. Also, she agrees with the idea that the vote leader should not just follow the will of the majority automatically, and that's the kind of person I want to see as the leader.
For me personally, I think I'd be able to get a read on the other leaders in more normal ways, whereas having a personal connection to Pirate Bae means I could use an extra bit to get a read on her to leave my biases behind. I think it's a similar reasoning to why Brazil wants to vote for Fandorin. Also, I've been caught handing easy Town Reads to players I know in the past and then having them turn out to be Scum, and I'd rather not continue to do that.The "I shan't bow to the majority but they have my ear" -party has many members at this point. Why is Yarr Bae the leader the party needs over her competitors?
Currently leaning scum for Blarg.
The start was interesting but he has been only noise for a while.
Also, I wanted to get your thoughts on this a bit more, because I have been feeling weird thoughts about Chuggernaut too. That's why I just put him in my "Keeping An Eye On Them" list.
Don't tell me you're agreeing with laziness
Also, I wanted to get your thoughts on this a bit more, because I have been feeling weird thoughts about Chuggernaut too. That's why I just put him in my "Keeping An Eye On Them" list.
Personally, I can't quite put my finger on it, but you are reading a bit scummy to me in a tone way I guess? I'll have to go back and grab some quotes, but I remember there was an alarm that went off in my head when we were chatting a bit last night when I subbed in.Am I supposed to just not agree with reads that are similar to mine? I said earlier that I thought Fran was suspicious to me and I think that Brazil post kind of nails what I'm feeling. Fanto made some solid points about Ketkat too, and I'm still pretty nervous about her especially because she's playing similar to a game I played with her where she was scum.
Personally, I can't quite put my finger on it, but you are reading a bit scummy to me in a tone way I guess? I'll have to go back and grab some quotes, but I remember there was an alarm that went off in my head when we were chatting a bit last night when I subbed in.
I suppose right now it would be Fran since I share similar perspectives with him, and was prodded similarly to how I was for his stance on the election. I find Monkey reasonable enough, too.FluxWaveZ you said you want to lynch CeeCee, who do you townread?
Lol, was it? I thought I was saying that you weren't scum hunting or something.Man, people always think my tone is off early game. This was the argument scum Fanto used against me last time we played together too. That's just how I do
That's a lot of words to tell me you have a null read on Fran.Fran concerns me right now, but it's purely meta. The one game I played with him he was scum and kind of took up the role of town leader so I'm a bit weary of him trying to steer town in one way or another. I feel a bit better about him after my interactions with him, but I'm not ready to say he's town yet. He's someone I think should keep and eye on, but I also think town Fran would be really useful for scum hunting later so I would rather keep him around until we get some more info.
Aside from that, and at the risk of sounding like I'm copying your read, ketkat sticks out to me as someone I would for if I could vote for similar reasons that you listed.
Personally, I can't quite put my finger on it, but you are reading a bit scummy to me in a tone way I guess? I'll have to go back and grab some quotes, but I remember there was an alarm that went off in my head when we were chatting a bit last night when I subbed in.
Cool.When I'm scum, I also quote gut and tone and feelings a lot too. This is not shade, this is an accusation.
Am I supposed to just not agree with reads that are similar to mine? I said earlier that I thought Fran was suspicious to me and I think that Brazil post kind of nails what I'm feeling. Fanto made some solid points about Ketkat too, and I'm still pretty nervous about her especially because she's playing similar to a game I played with her where she was scum.
Also, I wanted to get your thoughts on this a bit more, because I have been feeling weird thoughts about Chuggernaut too. That's why I just put him in my "Keeping An Eye On Them" list.
Go on then make your tactical retreat you expertNo, just wanted to point it out but it's also what I expect from Fran on you so that's really as far as I go.
I know this is just a glorified town reads list but this is a weird way to present it, it's almost like a bribe to get people on the list to swing your way in a pinch.
To be honest, I've put no thought towards Ket yet aside from correcting Geno when he tried to downplay her ability. She hasn't left any impression on me this game aside from sounding a little fake I guess? I don't have a good word but specifically thought the post from her saying she wanted to be more fun this game but got shit for it to be a little "woe is me" but no enough for me to really care right now.
This is a lot of people with varying reactions to what they found problematic with Sophia to just lump together as sheep. I'm actually surprised to begin with that you yielded to begin with that I brought a specific reason and other people didn't.
When you have little to add to the argument, it does not convince me that you really think the way you say you think.
Yes, that's the other thing I noted about Chuggs that I forgot, it was before I came in the game. I definitely agree with all of that.Chuggs became a sidetrack from the minor complaint I had towards Monkey earlier. Monkey follows her Fando read with wanting him as the leader, what convinces Chugg to join the cause. That rang bells, "Where have I seen this before?" I searched for Chugg's posts and saw few others like that: posts where he presents the argument someone else makes for him. He gives air to the arguments without really adding into them or taking the responsibility for them.
Fran, the more you talk about this, the weirder it seems. It seems like you're digging deeper than you'd have to to explain something that shouldn't be hard to explain.Because Turmoil dropped the subject on his own:
When Malus kept pushing the issue:
This was after I asked why he though it would be a good idea.
And you are making it look like I went after Malus as soon as he shared his idea, while I keep asking questions and giving arguments to see if he would back down but he never did.
Lol, was it? I thought I was saying that you weren't scum hunting or something.
Anyways, yeah, we only had the one interaction, but it was more the overall way you reacted to me coming in the game. Like at first, you were all "Hey, Fanto's here" and stuff, but you weren't making any posts about the game itself. Then I make a big post, you're still nowhere to be found, I prod you a bit for your thoughts, and you come at me with this:
That's a lot of words to tell me you have a null read on Fran.
And then yeah, you basically just reaffirmed my read on Ketkat to me, but you didn't give me any of your own thoughts on her, you just agreed with mine.
Natiko doing the real workLooking back at the player list a few things jumped out at me:
Zubz Giant Panda Kawl
You three have maybe left the smallest impression on me of all three players. I honestly can't recall much of anything from this group - care to share some more thoughts? What do you think of the current leader..leaders?
Fireblend Terraforce
Both of you seem to have blended into the background a bit more as of late. How are you feeling about your votes at this stage? Who would you pop given the chance?
I was thinking this and considering going through each of his posts so far but then I got sucked into a meeting. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.
Yeah?I agree with this post, though I think scum might be hesitant to push a scum partner too hard for leader. But I definitely see a few of the scum appealing to the entire group to become leader.
2019 goal: believing in me as much as Natiko seems to.VOTE: Brazil
Still is the town read I feel best about between the strength of my read and the general strength of the player.
What stuck out to me was you following my vote on Fando, specifically.Am I supposed to just not agree with reads that are similar to mine? I said earlier that I thought Fran was suspicious to me and I think that Brazil post kind of nails what I'm feeling. Fanto made some solid points about Ketkat too, and I'm still pretty nervous about her especially because she's playing similar to a game I played with her where she was scum.
And to be clear, I mean he doesn't post much early, but pops in with decently Townish thoughts from time to time. I'd maybe have to reread to see what exactly he's said so far, but I don't remember anything feeling too odd.Giant Panda feels like typical early-game GP to me. Both the games I've played with him he was basically just like this on D1.
What stuck out to me was you following my vote on Fando, specifically.
If you're on PC, click the search bar on top, select "This thread" in the drop-down menu, and then type the correct username in the "By:" field.Quick question. What's an easy way to search posts from an individual poster in a thread?
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Feels like you really hit the ground running this game and coming off of playing with scum Brazil the difference seems more stark than it even normally might. I have other town reads (Cabot and Fire though those got a little shakier, AB because his catch up posts feel genuine and like something scum probably wouldn't bother continuing to do when they weren't significantly engaged, and Monkey though I'm beginning to realize she's good at faking her town demeanor so that's a bit more TBD) but of them I would feel best about you pulling the trigger.I don't mean this as a slight, but I had to double-check to see if Giant Panda was actually in the game. None of their posts so far managed to activate my synapses, tbh. Like
Yeah?
But Fandorin said something early on about liking what Panda had said - why's that?
2019 goal: believing in me as much as Natiko seems to.
Ive been sick all day and finally decided to go to bed, so don't expect many posts from me for the rest of the day. That said, I'm wary about Geno, maybe Sophia/CeeCee, Brazil since he doesn't seem to be playing at his usual level (unless that's changed in the last couple pages I haven't read). And Zubz and Fran due to what I said earlier about them coming out of the gate saying they didn't want to be leaders. Got plenty of blond spots, Ketkat, Terra, Pirate Bae and Natiko come to mind when thinking who I'd like to look at next.Looking back at the player list a few things jumped out at me:
Zubz Giant Panda Kawl
You three have maybe left the smallest impression on me of all three players. I honestly can't recall much of anything from this group - care to share some more thoughts? What do you think of the current leader..leaders?
Fireblend Terraforce
Both of you seem to have blended into the background a bit more as of late. How are you feeling about your votes at this stage? Who would you pop given the chance?
In KH Mafia he was more obstinate as scum, quick to be defensive, and he didn't produce as many 'original thoughts' when scum hunting. I suppose he could have adapted again - but I currently feel pretty good about him.I'm surprised to hear that because Brazil is reminding me of HvV very mildly and I've just been kind of stuck in the camp of "I think that's just the way he plays"
Giant Panda feels like typical early-game GP to me. Both the games I've played with him he was basically just like this on D1.
Do y'all think a scum GP would be any different?Giant Panda being barely here feels like a very Giant Panda thing to do. I don't think that would be a good kill
Not really, it's just more that I wouldn't put him in the same category as the other people Natiko was calling out there. I kind of rambled on through a few posts there when I should have just made it all in one post.Do y'all think a scum GP would be any different?
I'm not saying let's lynch him or anything. I'm just wondering at giving one person a pass for not doing much but not others. Plenty of people don't do much d1.
Do y'all think a scum GP would be any different?
I'm not saying let's lynch him or anything. I'm just wondering at giving one person a pass for not doing much but not others. Plenty of people don't do much d1.
Fran, the more you talk about this, the weirder it seems. It seems like you're digging deeper than you'd have to to explain something that shouldn't be hard to explain.
As I clealry said previously, my criticism was pointing at the difference between the initial reactions you had to turmoil and malus saying the same thing. turmoil only dropped that idea after you'd already reacted amenably to his initial suggestion, so that doesn't explain anything. And you did go after malus as soon as he shared his idea - he proposed it on post #759, and you confronted him about it on #764. Once again, what happened after that doesn't explain anything because your initial reactions are what I'm questioning.
It feels arbitrary, and the fact that you didn't simply explain yourself by saying something like "I changed my mind between then and now" is adding on top of it.
Why do you think this is our best course of action?
Why not just have everyone share their reads and have the leader choose his target without a restriction?