im not interested in being kept alive till scum can hammer me on the final day
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MafiEra Mafia |OT| The Day of the Blargonauts
- Thread starter The Bear
- Start date
You could try helping us find scum so that doesn't happen instead of just trying to get yourself misslynched if you are town.
Seems like a better plan to me.
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==== DAY 4 VOTES ====
Day Start
malus (3 votes)
rac - #3,957 #4,117
fandorin - #4,159
rac - #4,212
brazil - #4,231
brazil (2 votes)
ezekelrage - #4,218 #4,254
fluxwavez - #4,220
ezekelrage - #4,261
fandorin (2 votes)
fluxwavez - #3,902 #3,963
sorian - #3,907
fantomas - #3,912 #3,992
sawneeks - #3,913
fluxwavez - #3,965 #3,999
sawneeks (1 votes)
natiko - #3,921
sorian (1 votes)
blargonaut - #4,020
ezekelrage - #4,188 #4,218
rac (0 votes)
rac - #4,117 #4,212
ezekelrage (0 votes)
brazil - #3,896 #3,991
fluxwavez (0 votes)
brazil - #3,991 #4,231
fantomas - #3,992 #4,141
ceecee (0 votes)
ezekelrage - #3,893 #4,188
Post Counts:
ezekelrage: 59 sorian: 53 brazil: 52 fantomas: 45 fluxwavez: 43 dr. monkey: 38 fandorin: 38 fran: 23 rac: 19 blargonaut: 18 natiko: 17 kyanrute: 10 sawneeks: 10 pirate bae: 9 grizzly: 8 malus: 6 fireblend: 5 lone_prodigy: 3 ceecee: 2 absolutbro: 2
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Day Start
malus (3 votes)
fandorin - #4,159
rac - #4,212
brazil - #4,231
brazil (2 votes)
fluxwavez - #4,220
ezekelrage - #4,261
fandorin (2 votes)
sorian - #3,907
sawneeks - #3,913
sawneeks (1 votes)
natiko - #3,921
sorian (1 votes)
blargonaut - #4,020
rac (0 votes)
ezekelrage (0 votes)
fluxwavez (0 votes)
ceecee (0 votes)
Post Counts:
ezekelrage: 59 sorian: 53 brazil: 52 fantomas: 45 fluxwavez: 43 dr. monkey: 38 fandorin: 38 fran: 23 rac: 19 blargonaut: 18 natiko: 17 kyanrute: 10 sawneeks: 10 pirate bae: 9 grizzly: 8 malus: 6 fireblend: 5 lone_prodigy: 3 ceecee: 2 absolutbro: 2
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We're more than a day out, you really need to chill a bit.
Caught up.
It appears that the votes today will resolve the last day's wagons, and while there's the possibility of a chain there, we'll have more information tomorrow.
If I had to choose between malus and Fandorin, I'd pick malus.
We're in a good spot so a misstep wouldn't ruin it.
It appears that the votes today will resolve the last day's wagons, and while there's the possibility of a chain there, we'll have more information tomorrow.
If I had to choose between malus and Fandorin, I'd pick malus.
We're in a good spot so a misstep wouldn't ruin it.
I mean, that's still over 50% of players who haven't shown their intent with the only power we have throughout the entire day phase.
We're not gonna turbo
No one has to vote yet
People are doing stuff
Slow the entirety of your roll
But... I'm not talking about a turbo? We have people saying they'd "vote for someone" without actually voting for anyone. I guess I don't get it. I thought even pressure votes were a thing for those who aren't participating as much.
I don't even think it would be the first time I incited a riot with that exact typo.
Vote: Fandorin
I'll put my vote here for now just because it is, at the moment, the flip I'd rather see today and I don't think I would have actually moved it if I didn't want to let Flux know my theory about him being a Neutral.
I do still think Malus could be Scum here though, and I think malus needs to show up and start playing and maybe answering some of these concerns that players are bringing up about him, as well as getting his thoughts on Fandorin and Brazil down.
I'll put my vote here for now just because it is, at the moment, the flip I'd rather see today and I don't think I would have actually moved it if I didn't want to let Flux know my theory about him being a Neutral.
I do still think Malus could be Scum here though, and I think malus needs to show up and start playing and maybe answering some of these concerns that players are bringing up about him, as well as getting his thoughts on Fandorin and Brazil down.
My opinion of Fandorin isn't based on mechanics, but I don't feel the need to sugarcoat it. It is what it is.
Then look at the obvious links between those two players that have been brought up.
You wanted to before. I'm just carrying it over. I don't know how you think everything is so cut and dried. I don't know how you were so confident in Faddy's scumminess, either. What I'm saying is I, at least, am not at all ready to vote. If you wanna try to mount some pressure votes, go for it. I tried it yesterday with LP. It amounted to nothing. I don't think it will mean anything here, either, because it will be fake pressure - and a pressure vote isn't announcing your intent, which is what you said you wanted, so what are you even trying to do here except lecture people for reasons?
the best play is to continue to follow my scum teams votes and not bus any of their fake claims
I hate it too :( I'll spend the end of day tomorrow in a plane, too.Ties are good and fine early in the day. Febe's takes though are not so great.
Anything before this stuff is outdated and I don't care. Febe saying malus, Fandorin, OR Faddy is a whole ass thing though. I get that he's busy but in hindsight this reads like "whatever, lynch someone." But we know they weren't all town, because Faddy, and it seems unlikely both the other two are town. And what does this say about Brazil?
I don't know if Febe has been active enough to make a judgment about this either way. I find it really frustrating that we've got like five people who are doing so little that we're fumbling in the dark. Febe at least is trying, or appears to be, but this disengagement is the result. And lynching there doesn't even tell us anything; it puts us right back here where we are now.
Before is before, now is now. I'd appreciate it if you addressed what I actually say instead of trying to find fault in it because of something else I said before. I already acknowledged that we don't need to turbo anyone. That's fine, we'll wait until end of day, as per usual. But you really think that means people should wait until the last minute to put a vote down?
Well then better not do it.
To be honest after they have tunneled so hard on me I find it hard to scum read Fando or Brazil. If one of them is scum it seems pretty risky going down one single path so vehemently if they are already down two players.
Are you just trying to see if you can claim Scum and still not get lynched today? Lol
We're not remotely close to the last minute is what I'm saying. A hell of a lot of people need to show up and actually say something, too.
No town is so sure about another player aligment unless they have some proof, and not the meta kind.
That's bullshit. You either know and have proof or you lean for a town read. But you are claiming that you know and that you have no proof. That's not how Mafia works. No matter how good you feel about a read you still should have doubts about it.
You claiming that you are SURE that Fandorin is town for meta reasons reminds me of Faddy D1 and Sophia.
Vote: Brazil
I think Fando vs Malus can wait another day. Let's lynch Brazil and see how he flips.
You've played with rac before right? He openly trolls when he's bored. It's NAI
He usually dies D1/N1. The last time I played with him where he survived until later in the game (TMBG) he tried to solve the game.
Judging from my chat with him last night, he is amazed that he is still alive in this game.
With how he is playing right now I will be amazed if this isn't the last time he will last so long.
It isn't helpful also. It's just bad noise that it's trying to distract from actual discussions.
good morning. skimmed a bit, sorry. (4 pages is a lot)
I don't understand your logic here. If he wasn't trying to force a Doctor claim then he was trying to stay alive, making his vote one of self preservation.
See, this kind of logic I can understand. Sorian's makes no sense going after Fando if he thinks Faddy tried to keep himself alive.
Well that makes his Malus vote even weirder. Did he ever say why he switched on it?
Sorian, if you don't think Faddy was trying to force a Doctor claim at that point then what other alternative could there be besides trying to live? If that's the case then why would he try and force the counterwagon to be Fandorin if he is his teammate?
I don't understand your logic here. If he wasn't trying to force a Doctor claim then he was trying to stay alive, making his vote one of self preservation.
No, I think it's one or the other. Don't think it's both.
no thanks would not like a lynch for my birthday.
See, this kind of logic I can understand. Sorian's makes no sense going after Fando if he thinks Faddy tried to keep himself alive.
Well that makes his Malus vote even weirder. Did he ever say why he switched on it?
I want malus Kyanrute rac and Lone_Prodigy thoughts on what I said about the votes for Day End yesterday.
Rereading and this caught my eye and it's related to the Malus post I wanna highlight in a bit so o want to mark it.
But it's also important because it demonstrates a fundamental difference in approach. Brazil thinks if we lynch Fandorin (or him) we will immediately lynch the other or if we lynch malus and he's town we will lynch them. What Flux says here though is essential and maybe the first time I've hard agreed with him: things change after a flip. If this is a setup on Brazil or Fando, if someone is pushing the lynch, the flip gets us closer to finding it.
I'm going through the malus votes because I want to see how they came about and because I do. Or believe he is scum. I am not locked into believing if malus is town, Fandorin has to be, though. It's part of why I'm looking.
I don't think Malus is scum judging by day end votes.
That leaves Brazil vs. Fandorin to be resolved today. If I had to pick, I would lean Fandorin as I think that flip would give us more information. His voting patterns have been off since D2. Feels like he's looking for someone to bus.
Brazil, at least, has had reasonings for placing his votes where they were / are, and even if I don't agree, I can understand the reasoning. It feels more genuine, but if Fando flips town, I'll be looking there tomorrow.
Vote: Fandorin
That leaves Brazil vs. Fandorin to be resolved today. If I had to pick, I would lean Fandorin as I think that flip would give us more information. His voting patterns have been off since D2. Feels like he's looking for someone to bus.
Brazil, at least, has had reasonings for placing his votes where they were / are, and even if I don't agree, I can understand the reasoning. It feels more genuine, but if Fando flips town, I'll be looking there tomorrow.
Vote: Fandorin
Alright, so help me out here. I've taken a second look at everything, and I'm still not seeing what you're seeing. Is this strong Faddy and malus connection just the fact that Faddy had listed malus high up in the list of people he would kill, and then dropped him (along with some others) later on?
The only convincing point I'm seeing is hat quick vote for Pirate Bae associated with the graph. I was fine with the graph at the time, but looking back, that vote is pretty bad. But I myself didn't really consider the importance of a locked vote phase, and there had been Fran and his override anyways. It was kinda like Day 1 part 2, in that sense.
I'd like to see whatever strong link between malus and scum I'm apparently overlooking.
Yeah, I said something similar earlier. And the fact that malus didn't like it later I think speaks to him being genuine and not used to the community. He was putting his thoughts out, unfiltered. That's not a scum tendency.
No, he never mentions it in the boat at least. After I finished my ISO of malus I mentioned it in the boat as an aside, but he never directly responded to it. I don't recall if he gave much more than weak reasoning in the thread or not. I just assumed he was hoping to avoid verifying himself at the time.
i think it's hard to get anything out of what faddy did at eod