Ya'll are so devoid of any empathy its gross. We can still keep some shred of compassion for this person even if they didn't have the brains to survive / listen to science. We can hold him accountable and have empathy too. This was a human life.
He had power and a platform, and he chose to use it to make the world worse. He didn't only destroy his own life with his stupidity, he risked the lives of others.Ya'll are so devoid of any empathy its gross. We can still keep some shred of compassion for this person even if they didn't have the brains to survive / listen to science. We can hold him accountable and have empathy too. This was a human life.
I afford them the same sympathy they give to victims of gun violence. Which is basically zero.
I have zero empathy or sympathy for people that spread and support shit that kill me and mines. This means literally all republicans. I'll save it for people that can't help themselves.
He had power and a platform, and he chose to use it to make the world worse. He didn't only destroy his own life with his stupidity, he risked the lives of others.
But again. Still a human. Flaws and all, I don't think every moron has vicious intent.
Collectively, how much has this cost the US in terms of human life? When you say vicious intent, I think that's a deflection of the harm and destruction of human life that a political amoral agenda has cost America.
Collectively, how much has this cost the US in terms of human life? When you say vicious intent, I think that's a deflection of the harm and destruction of human life that a political amoral agenda has cost America.
So
you mean to tell me than ol boy:
only to get capped by it?
- Had maskless rallies
- Was callin it a hoax
- Havin other folks buyin into the conspiracy
Won't someone please think of the idiots perpetuating this deadly virus that has already killed more than 300,000 U.S. citizens in the most deadly year in American history?????
Feel sorry for the kids. Zero sympathy for people like this guy. Die by the sword.
Is this a topic open for discussion with you, or are you going to avoid dialogue by no-quote replying to my point of view instead?
For example, do you have any empathy to people that fall victim to cults? Anti-science strikes me as something similar.
Maybe the kids will get a better father figure in their life now.
Natural selection, survival of the fittest, the usual evolution business.
I think there's an explanation for what they became, though an explanation is not an excuse for behavior, they remain accountable for their actions no matter how consciously/unconsciously they approached their, lets say notoriety.
However, the parts of the explanation, like trauma and abuse, that were inflicted upon them, I can find some empathy for. People have terrible things happen to them, and if left untended, can sometimes be the root cause of some really awful shit they grow into.
Do you consider Luke Letlow's behavior to be akin to a cult leader? Or are you more meaning that the "ideals" or "truth" he perpetuates is believed heavily enough to reach that special kind of cult hive mind thinking?
Not everyone who spreads lies, takes advantage of people & purposely ignores reality is some victim of trauma or a troubled childhood, nor are people from troubled backgrounds destined to be manipulators with zero concern for others. And the GOP in general, their deference to a man a significant portion of their constituents cast as god or god-sent, repeating his deliberate & provable lies for the sake of self-advancement, self-preservation or both within their sect is in fact very much the behavior of someone in the upper echelons of a cult.I think there's an explanation for what they became, though an explanation is not an excuse for behavior, they remain accountable for their actions no matter how consciously/unconsciously they approached their, lets say notoriety.
However, the parts of the explanation, like trauma and abuse, that were inflicted upon them, I can find some empathy for. People have terrible things happen to them, and if left untended, can sometimes be the root cause of some really awful shit they grow into.
Do you consider Luke Letlow's behavior to be akin to a cult leader? Or are you more meaning that the "ideals" or "truth" he perpetuates is believed heavily enough to reach that special kind of cult hive mind thinking?
You can't force people to adjust and change. If people choose to be conservative and not adopt, they leave themselves behind. I feel sorry for them, but it is what it is.This is true to an extent, but do we really want to leave people behind? Haven't we as people left that heartlessness behind, hopefully?
This. If the subject we were discussing was climate change would "we can't leave people behind" still be relevant? We have to wait until every conservative is suddenly willing to acknowledge the wealth of accepted science before we actually start the work necessary to fix the climate crisis & hold the people who brought us to this brink accountable? That's bullshit. There are people who earn being left behind because they invest in backwards beliefs and they don't get to set the pace for the rest of the human race particularly when their regressive ideals have zero value and only exist to harm, misinform & disenfranchise. Our progress isn't their torture no matter how much they want to yell & scream to the contrary.You can't force people to adjust and change. If people choose to be conservative and not adopt, they leave themselves behind. I feel sorry for them, but it is what it is.
I actually do have some level of sympathy actually, as someone who was in a serious emotionally, psychologically (and though not commonly or super seriously physically) abusive relationship with someone who could probably be classified as a sufferer of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. So yes, I can understand the forces.Is this a topic open for discussion with you, or are you going to avoid dialogue by no-quote replying to my point of view instead?
For example, do you have any empathy to people that fall victim to cults? Anti-science strikes me as something similar.
agreed.I will say that I would not have wished him dead, for all the harm he did, but now that he's reaped his own reward, I can't say I feel much for him. I feel far more for his family, true victims.
People cannot escape judgment for having explanations for horrible behavior...ultimately, none of us choose our genetic code or manner of upbringing. But refusing to lay any blame toward anyone is not how society does or ought to work. He committed evil acts, and my ability to empathize with his death is summarily decreased.
To be fair, none of what he said here was crazy. Mask mandate would be hard to enforce. We already had idiot sheriffs refuse to enforce it. Also, cops are not the answer here. Where I live, NYC, the notorious NYPD most harassed people of color in the beginning.
Ya'll are so devoid of any empathy its gross. We can still keep some shred of compassion for this person even if they didn't have the brains to survive / listen to science. We can hold him accountable and have empathy too. This was a human life.
So what's the theory on why Covid is so much harder on some people than others? Just unlucky genetics?