VLR would have been a 10/10 game for me if it had used 2D animation like 999 did.
it just looks so much worse
it just looks so much worse
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LTTP: The Zero Escape Series (currently on ZTD)
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Let the temptation flow through you. I'm still deciding if I want to take a break before playing that one haha.
The character models look quite good, there's just a lack of polish on a few details which put it below the 2D stuff. It also doesn't help that the 2D animation was very well done in 999 though. Like, surprisingly great for a budget title.
>me eyeing the right side of the tree knowing there's LITERAL bombs in one of these fucking brunches
What are your favorite characters so far?Let the temptation flow through you. I'm still deciding if I want to take a break before playing that one haha.
The character models look quite good, there's just a lack of polish on a few details which put it below the 2D stuff. It also doesn't help that the 2D animation was very well done in 999 though. Like, surprisingly great for a budget title.
>me eyeing the right side of the tree knowing there's LITERAL bombs in one of these fucking brunches
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K fucking took off his armor and iced dio
I"M K?!
So that means either i'm the robot or K is a clone of me. Going with the latter, am I the vector for getting the antidote to the past? Getting frozen so I can gain future knowledge when I would have otherwise died.
So far Phi and Alice. Tenmyo is good too. Sigma not having a voice hurts him quite a bit. Design wise I quite like K and Phi the most tho.
I like how the game just does everything possible to make you hate Dio.
"also, this dude killed your mother figure"
i also wish i could experience these games again for the first time. i played them on DS/3DS first and then replayed on PS4 but the first play was so crazy.
all 3 games had moments that made me flip. VLR had the most insane ones.
to the point i really enjoy when someone goes through the game and posts as they go.
all 3 games had moments that made me flip. VLR had the most insane ones.
to the point i really enjoy when someone goes through the game and posts as they go.
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My jaw legit dropped for like 2 minutes. Right before I was thinking "well, if he took off his suit he has to look like one of us to avoid raising suspicion. Or he's zero working zero jr to dodge people"
This probably means the dead old woman is Akane and maybe Snake is K's dad? Best I got right now. And it fits since Snake is shown to be of genius level intelligence pretty much.
Thinking back to what Clover said about her Esper powers "not working", maybe this Nonary game is to daisy chain espers to send information backwards in time. Or something even fucking crazier than that lmao
...Sigma means to sum something and Phi can represent coordinates
Took a day break before I go down the right path. On the hunt for the computer username now.
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Don't do what I did and look up the username and password thinking that I missed it. You'll know when you have it.
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I already fucked up googling for junpei's last name haha. Couldn't remember if it was ever mentioned in 999 and was gonna see if it was an anagram for Tenmoy. Ah well, I had guessed as much before anyway.
VLR seriously is one of my favorite games of all time. Like Top 3. It blew my mind when I first played it and I played it before even knowing about 999 (not something I'd recommend but definitely adds more mystery to the twists if you don't have any prior knowledge). I stayed up several nights trying to unlock all the endings and when I was done I was so satisfied
That spoiler photo seriously makes me want to bust out my DS copy again... Its that powerfulOne thing I'll mention since you're recommending the "newer" version of 999 is that because you didn't play the DS version of 999 you actually missed out on a really great hardware based twist (sadly everyone coming into The Nonary Games nowadays is missing out on this). I'll spoiler it just in case, but it only relates to a new perspective on a playthrough you've already fully done.
On the DS version you have two screens obviously, throughout the game it kinda seems like the game is making ultra basic use of the hardware by having the top screen showing text boxes and character portraits with the bottom screen showing descriptive text and then the puzzles. And then you hit the twist at the end.
The top screen throughout the game was used for Junpei's view, the bottom screen was used for young Akane's view of events via the morphogenic field, which is why there is a disconnect between some text throughout the game as it is two different character's interpretations of events (most noticeable during bad endings, it's cool to go back through those with the knowledge of how the screens work). Cue the final sudoku puzzle, suddenly everything is upside down and you think the game is broken, but you actually have to physically rotate the DS 180 degrees so that the touchscreen is on Junpei's view for entering the digits, while the now top screen shows an image reflected in the monitor of young Akane with tears streaming down her face as she waits for Junpei to help her. This is why everyone cryptically has to say NO SERIOUSLY, PLAY THE DS ONE. And why nobody ever listens to us because they think "pfft, doesn't matter the trilogy is cheaper and looks better". Sadly, you missed the biggest mindgame twist in the game, one which can never be replicated on other hardware for such minor but also major reasons.
Anyway aside from that, enjoy VLR, it's a really fun ride. Zero's VA is Cindy Robinson who you might know as Labrys or Amy Rose, all of the voices are good but hers is a standout performance.
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That's a hell of a lot of context to miss out on lmao
>Phi realizing she's trapped with a degenerate in the crew quarters
Music here almost sounds like something i'd hear in ape escape
I didn't need that comment about you going home to beat your meat after this tenmyo
Oh shit, did not expect a timeline knowledge drop this early into the right path. I wonder how many times we've failed. I knew I was right to save the right path for last tho
DIO CHOSE ALLY FOR THIS FIRST ROUND?
Ya know, maybe Quark really is a little shit.
That clover betray gotta hit different for Tenmyo tho
Still wondering what happens to Zero Jr. Straight up disappears after the first round of the AB game.
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Clover is 21? That feels like it doesn't quite matchup with the timeline
Got a chuckle out of me when Sigma was talking about his cat tic and K was just like
God damn, there really was a bomb under this here bench. Number 3 tho so I don't have a code for it.
AN ANTIMATTER BOMB!? Just drop that shit so casually like motherfuckers have had that shit since the 90s
Hmm, got a diagram from the B. Garden. Kinda looks like it has something to do with timelines if it mentions the Nevada test site. And a piece of paper that says IG=immunoglobulin. So i'm guessing that the machine in the lab is used to test for Radical-6 immunity. Which may be how I can save everyone from killing themselves from the infection.
Also, I fucking swear the people in this game be like this searching the safes
"Where's the key? ................................Oh, right there!"
Oh shit, Alice really is All Ice. Doubt clover was fucking with tenmyo, especially if he told him who he was. Which means 4 people got slapped into the future unwillingly. Sigma, Clover, Alice, and Phi or Luna. Either Phi, Luna, or K are a god damn robot and I don't know who! Phi has displayed superhuman capabilities, Luna makes sense with the chinese room analogy in a way, and K could just be made to look like me. I don't know why someone would make him look like me though.
Ayyyy, yeap. Time to save Alice and Quark. We're gonna need a lot more than 2 doses tho lol
Oh shit, the number 2 bomb! Got the deactivation code for this one though. Just need the input device
I GOT BETRAYED BY ALICE!? WHAT?!
Lmao @ everyone else betraying each other tho. Yall clowns
Got a chuckle out of me when Sigma was talking about his cat tic and K was just like
God damn, there really was a bomb under this here bench. Number 3 tho so I don't have a code for it.
AN ANTIMATTER BOMB!? Just drop that shit so casually like motherfuckers have had that shit since the 90s
Hmm, got a diagram from the B. Garden. Kinda looks like it has something to do with timelines if it mentions the Nevada test site. And a piece of paper that says IG=immunoglobulin. So i'm guessing that the machine in the lab is used to test for Radical-6 immunity. Which may be how I can save everyone from killing themselves from the infection.
Also, I fucking swear the people in this game be like this searching the safes
"Where's the key? ................................Oh, right there!"
Oh shit, Alice really is All Ice. Doubt clover was fucking with tenmyo, especially if he told him who he was. Which means 4 people got slapped into the future unwillingly. Sigma, Clover, Alice, and Phi or Luna. Either Phi, Luna, or K are a god damn robot and I don't know who! Phi has displayed superhuman capabilities, Luna makes sense with the chinese room analogy in a way, and K could just be made to look like me. I don't know why someone would make him look like me though.
Ayyyy, yeap. Time to save Alice and Quark. We're gonna need a lot more than 2 doses tho lol
Oh shit, the number 2 bomb! Got the deactivation code for this one though. Just need the input device
I GOT BETRAYED BY ALICE!? WHAT?!
Lmao @ everyone else betraying each other tho. Yall clowns
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Ya, that's right. Fuck you Alice for that one
Man, why do the static 2D scenes look so bad? It's like they turned off the shaders and gameplay lighting for them.
Jesus fuck, Sigma has a photographic memory and Alice has genius level math skills.
>Me getting slapped with the past memories
>Me tricking dio because this man is straight dumb
....Clover, girl. how stupid are you?
Everyone dies
Man, why do the static 2D scenes look so bad? It's like they turned off the shaders and gameplay lighting for them.
Jesus fuck, Sigma has a photographic memory and Alice has genius level math skills.
>Me getting slapped with the past memories
>Me tricking dio because this man is straight dumb
....Clover, girl. how stupid are you?
Everyone dies
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Ahhh, we're finally getting to the integration of schrodinger's cat into the game's themes. Wonder if it's hinting at certain events can only be changed on the micro level, but macro stays the same. So either Me or Alice will always be burned no matter what each other chooses.
SIGGGGGYYYYY, PHIDOOOOO
I got the input device for the bombs inside the safe? What, why does Zero Jr have that? Dio seemed like either a planned interference, or an unsuspecting cohort.
Also, what is Dio's mission anyway? He says completed it, but there's no indication as to what he did. It can't be anything bomb related otherwise he wouldn't have given up the codes so easily. Maybe he killed Zero Jr and that's why they never talk again after the first round.
A passing thought is that ZTD is based on the recording we heard earlier
>Mfers in this game whenever an AB gate is open and they have 45 MINUTES until it closes
Well, found the number 1 bomb. Think there's only 1 bomb left to find
Tenmyo really just knocked this man out like it was a joke
WOW PHI, HOW PETTY CAN YOU BE TO KEEP A GRUDGE THROUGH TIMELINES!?
THEN YOU GOT THE AUDACITY TO CHOOSE ALLY WHEN I BETRAY YOU AND STILL GET MAD
WHERE WAS THIS KNOCK A MAN OUT IN ONE CHOP SHIT THE PAST 8 ENDINGS PHI? WHY YOU ONLY GOT SMOKE FOR ME?
SIGGGGGYYYYY, PHIDOOOOO
I got the input device for the bombs inside the safe? What, why does Zero Jr have that? Dio seemed like either a planned interference, or an unsuspecting cohort.
Also, what is Dio's mission anyway? He says completed it, but there's no indication as to what he did. It can't be anything bomb related otherwise he wouldn't have given up the codes so easily. Maybe he killed Zero Jr and that's why they never talk again after the first round.
A passing thought is that ZTD is based on the recording we heard earlier
>Mfers in this game whenever an AB gate is open and they have 45 MINUTES until it closes
Well, found the number 1 bomb. Think there's only 1 bomb left to find
Tenmyo really just knocked this man out like it was a joke
WOW PHI, HOW PETTY CAN YOU BE TO KEEP A GRUDGE THROUGH TIMELINES!?
THEN YOU GOT THE AUDACITY TO CHOOSE ALLY WHEN I BETRAY YOU AND STILL GET MAD
WHERE WAS THIS KNOCK A MAN OUT IN ONE CHOP SHIT THE PAST 8 ENDINGS PHI? WHY YOU ONLY GOT SMOKE FOR ME?
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top 10 anime betrayalsYeah, that Phi moment is super cool. She's all
Phew, a reverse schrodinger's cat. A group of people determining if the world outside is a shit fest or not. Makes sense given Zero Sr's termite explanation
My god, an antimatter reactor going off might be enough to crack a piece of the planet off. Detonated in something like Oklahoma it'd wipe the entire state
Man, why am I such a stick in the 3d parts? Last I checked I had some big ol muscles in the artwork (and K does too in game so it doesn't add up)
Wait, so Dio's plan really is just to blow up the base to stop the game? He really is a whole ass idiot for giving up the codes, who sent this man?
Glad I wrote down these bomb codes on a notepad lmao. Think i'm on the ending path though
Off to find the final(?) number 2 bomb! Making a total of 4. I'm guessing the number zero bomb is hidden behind the computer
Ah, I see Skittles found a GOAT game series. I have to admit, I actually forgot quite a few of the smaller plot points of both games, I still know the big overarching thing.
For 999, yes, having to replay everything each time was horrible. After getting the 3 bad ends and being forced to pla through the tutorial room for a fourth time I just used a FAQ to get through the game (at least to see how to trigger the good endings). Also, that fucking coffin ending just ending with "To be continue" annoyed me like hell.
When they released VLR with a flow chart it was SO MUCH better. I am not sure buzt I think I got stuck on a few parts. Worst offender being the very first room, where I managed to get the hard mode done, but then had to lower the difficulty to actually get enough hints for me to get the regular solution. This one thing in the very beginning was going to haunt me hours later... xD
For 999, yes, having to replay everything each time was horrible. After getting the 3 bad ends and being forced to pla through the tutorial room for a fourth time I just used a FAQ to get through the game (at least to see how to trigger the good endings). Also, that fucking coffin ending just ending with "To be continue" annoyed me like hell.
When they released VLR with a flow chart it was SO MUCH better. I am not sure buzt I think I got stuck on a few parts. Worst offender being the very first room, where I managed to get the hard mode done, but then had to lower the difficulty to actually get enough hints for me to get the regular solution. This one thing in the very beginning was going to haunt me hours later... xD
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I just thought about how fucked up that coffin ending is on the DS. Holy shit lol, hours of progress lost because you had no way to know the specific dialogue choices or that you've even enabled the true ending.
Casual sexual harassment from Sigma
How did I forgot fucking PEMDAS (archive puzzle) with a math minor and a master
What the fuck is behind this big ol door in warehouse B. And man that robot tease is left hanging so long, i'm just expecting them to slap me with it at any minute
I read up that this one is gone after unlocking the route for the true ending. So I went ahead and especially took the Coffin ending route before unlocking the rest.
Yeah, so fun. Playing through every room again was more annoying than anything else. At least after clearing the first room 6 times I can probably still speed clear it even today... xD
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Oh ya, it does go away. Still feel bad that you wasted time on an ending which is just a cut away of the true ending
Don't mind me, just grabbing a front row seat to see your reaction to that route.
K fucking took off his armor and iced dio
I"M K?!
So that means either i'm the robot or K is a clone of me. Going with the latter, am I the vector for getting the antidote to the past?
God, that K moment is unforgettable. I remember my jaw actually hanging open.
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Oooo, a lock where I have to fail first on the same path then I gain the knowledge to succeed
I wonder if Radical-6 is like Butterfly Syndrome from Ars Paradoxica
Ohhhhh noooo, my hand. I'm the robot...
So Alice, Clover, Luna, and Phi were the frozen ones. So either K is a clone or the real "sigma". But if i'm a robot how am I using the morphogenic field. WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING
I wonder if Radical-6 is like Butterfly Syndrome from Ars Paradoxica
Ohhhhh noooo, my hand. I'm the robot...
So Alice, Clover, Luna, and Phi were the frozen ones. So either K is a clone or the real "sigma". But if i'm a robot how am I using the morphogenic field. WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING
I'm not sure there's ever been a more "WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING" game (in a good way) than Virtue's Last Reward.
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I guess in a way it doesn't matter if i'm a robot or not to use the field. They did have a talk about there not being much of an intrinsic difference between things. So a robot could use it by that logic
Luna just straight up called me out, god damn.
At this point, Luna has to be an Augmentation Surgeon or some shit. She's hella suspicious
Sorry Phi
WAIT, STILL A HUMAN. WE IN THERE BOYS
Luna just straight up called me out, god damn.
At this point, Luna has to be an Augmentation Surgeon or some shit. She's hella suspicious
Sorry Phi
WAIT, STILL A HUMAN. WE IN THERE BOYS
999 is so damn good, wasn't a big fan of VLR but looking back it's not that bad of a followup.
I think it was just a case of expecting more after 999.
I think it was just a case of expecting more after 999.
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I'd probably play this if it wasn't stuck on DS/Mobile. Needs a current gen port.
Bahahaha, the trophy I just got. "Arms Race"
Luna gave me the username for the computer. Nice. Still don't trust her tho.
Holy shit, they really just cut off my hand like that lmao.
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Using the 9 door as guillotine is smart, i'll give you that sigma
Ah ha! The old woman is indeed Akane. And her ID had the password for the comp. What the fuck did K give me then? Nvm, her password is for something else
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SO LUNA IS THE ROBOT!
Wonder if she would have killed me if I voted betray
Pour one out for Luna who was forced to standby and do nothing
Oh my god, I forgot about the knife. This whole organization is dumb for putting their name on weaponry.
I'm cackling at the bracelet is defeated by common kitchen items
Eeek, Luna. What a way to go. This explains why Zero Jr never talks after the first round tho
She fucking trapped me in here for betraying
Onto the true path to defuse all these bombs
Wonder if she would have killed me if I voted betray
Pour one out for Luna who was forced to standby and do nothing
Oh my god, I forgot about the knife. This whole organization is dumb for putting their name on weaponry.
I'm cackling at the bracelet is defeated by common kitchen items
Eeek, Luna. What a way to go. This explains why Zero Jr never talks after the first round tho
She fucking trapped me in here for betraying
Onto the true path to defuse all these bombs
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I hope bomb 0 is in dio's hat, one last hat trick :)
Darn, in between the ab rooms
...there's an awful lot of trophies left for a game i feel like i'm almost done with
Room Q eh? Quite the throwback to 999's final room
This is a fucking puzzle room, holy shit
oh my fucking lord more shit comes out of the walls with more puzzles after you solve a minesweeper wall
LOLLLLL, i would pick the hardest wall first
The back button attachment has been a dream for these visual novels in so many ways. For this room I could click on squares using just my left hand while I enter the numbers into notepad with the other. Plus it's a lot more comfortable just to hit the back buttons instead of mashing x in most cases
Pfft, I can punch through that glass piss easy. I got fucking titanium appendgages mother fuckers
Hmmm, the Q AB game wasn't worded the best for the escape hint.
What a great room nonetheless though!
Ahhh, so we do intend to send Sigma back to the past AND Phi.
After, before game. simple but I like it
Damn, slapped 50 years into the future. That's fucking rough.
Local woman can't stop herself from getting killed multiple times throughout time
I don't like the way it said "once you find a password it doesn't change through timelines"
Oh shit the gravestone key lets go! Was wondering why that thing had a keyhole
I uh, don't think there's a way for us to return to the past. If this consciousness slingshot thing is tied to linear time (i.e. I can go backward but will always return to the present point). You better not be a greedy motherfucker again Akane
Oh shit, not mars. We're on the moon
Damn, so we've been moving in slow motion this whole time? That's fucking wild
WE JUST BLEW UP THE EARTH TO STOP A VIRUS!?
Ahhh, so the extra door is a re-entry point.
>me while K drops the lore bombs
IT"S ME AGAIN IN THE POD!?! WHAT THE FUCK
AKANE WAS IN THE ARMOR THE WHOLE TIME? WHAT!?
I"M ZERO SR!?!
...i need to go ly dow
Darn, in between the ab rooms
...there's an awful lot of trophies left for a game i feel like i'm almost done with
Room Q eh? Quite the throwback to 999's final room
This is a fucking puzzle room, holy shit
oh my fucking lord more shit comes out of the walls with more puzzles after you solve a minesweeper wall
LOLLLLL, i would pick the hardest wall first
The back button attachment has been a dream for these visual novels in so many ways. For this room I could click on squares using just my left hand while I enter the numbers into notepad with the other. Plus it's a lot more comfortable just to hit the back buttons instead of mashing x in most cases
Pfft, I can punch through that glass piss easy. I got fucking titanium appendgages mother fuckers
Hmmm, the Q AB game wasn't worded the best for the escape hint.
What a great room nonetheless though!
Ahhh, so we do intend to send Sigma back to the past AND Phi.
After, before game. simple but I like it
Damn, slapped 50 years into the future. That's fucking rough.
Local woman can't stop herself from getting killed multiple times throughout time
I don't like the way it said "once you find a password it doesn't change through timelines"
Oh shit the gravestone key lets go! Was wondering why that thing had a keyhole
I uh, don't think there's a way for us to return to the past. If this consciousness slingshot thing is tied to linear time (i.e. I can go backward but will always return to the present point). You better not be a greedy motherfucker again Akane
Oh shit, not mars. We're on the moon
Damn, so we've been moving in slow motion this whole time? That's fucking wild
WE JUST BLEW UP THE EARTH TO STOP A VIRUS!?
Ahhh, so the extra door is a re-entry point.
>me while K drops the lore bombs
IT"S ME AGAIN IN THE POD!?! WHAT THE FUCK
AKANE WAS IN THE ARMOR THE WHOLE TIME? WHAT!?
I"M ZERO SR!?!
...i need to go ly dow
I gotta say, my favorite moment in VLR was the first time I went back and picked a different choice, namely to betray Alice, only for her to change her choice and Sigma fucking freaks because she picked betray before, even though there's no clear reason for Sigma to even know that, and it was such a "Holy fucking shit" moment for me, and so, so good.
Every fucking time, in 999, VLR and the Somnium Files, I pulled an all nighter for the ending.
Once the final stretch has hooked you, you gotta keep going to know what happens, and then once you finish, you're too wired to sleep.
Now this got me curious. What's this ending? It's been some years I played the game.
Is this the one you go back to the past and meet young Akane?
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