Once Dark Souls clicked for me I really loved it, but it took at least 5-6 hours before I felt like I had even a basic handle on things.
I still used a guide to tell me what I needed to be doing and help if I got stuck at certain points and needed tips (like how good Havel's(?) ring was and where to get it).
But once I had the basics of how best to level my character, upgrading weapons, what items do what, and how to fix status effects, it was a really incredible experience.
There's just so many memorable locations burned into my brain from having died and run through them over and over. I didn't even do everything in it, I missed the whole DLC and skipped several of the bosses.
These days I'm not sure I have the time or patience go through a Souls-like game again sadly. Tried to get into Dark Souls 2 and just couldn't feel like I could get into the gameplay loop like I used to.
Skill kinda want to try out Sekiro one of these days, maybe I'll try it next time it's on sale.