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LTTP: Bloodborne - So when does it get good?
- Thread starter GARlock Spiral
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I'm almost finished the game and there's only 2 bosses so far that had me absolutely raging, Rom and the Blood starved beast.
It shouldn't take long to level up weapons at that point. If you think they're cool then you can pretty easily max a few out. If you do the last boss you won't be able to start the DLC until you reach that point again in new game +
Honestly imo that is a loaded question.
InitiallyI platinumed the game in ~15hrs when the game released and never looked back. Thought it was another souls game that lacked the punch that came with its forerunners.
and then I came back to the game a year later after finishing witcher 3 and then....
InitiallyI platinumed the game in ~15hrs when the game released and never looked back. Thought it was another souls game that lacked the punch that came with its forerunners.
and then I came back to the game a year later after finishing witcher 3 and then....
But seriously the game clicked HARD for me and mostly its the lore that amplified every parts of the game. I consider Bloodborne to be Miyazaki's Sistine chapel once it clicked for me.
You won't unless you go through the mostly awful challice dungeons
For me, the game didn't begin to pick up until I beat Old Yharnam's boss and I got transported into Yahargul for the first time by a Snatcher. Taking in the atmosphere was when I quite literally gained insight into why people loved the game. This was before Vicar Amelia btw.
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So, I can't speak for you, but I bought Bloodborne at launch, my first Souls game, and it kicked my ass so bad that I gave up on it for a year.
I picked it up again a year later and something about it "clicked" and now its in the running for my favorite game of all time. I know something "clicking" isn't a helpful metric, but my advice is to explore Yharnam a bit rather than just bee line for the next boss. The level design is one of the best parts about the game, and I realized I didn't really appreciate it when I was focused on pushing forward and not dying.
Once I started exploring (accepting that I'd probably die from doing so), it really all came together, I think.
It's the only good game aside from The Last Guardian on PS4 so I feel p sorry for you, OP.
Also the best Souls-like.
Also the best Souls-like.
No, just a mistake. I meant PS4-exclusive and I forgot Astro Bot, which is the best platformer this gen after Mario Odyssey.
There is a strong chance BB is not for you, OP. Yharnam IMO is one of FromSoft's best designed worlds. The combat systems and weapons are the best out of all Soulsborne games (Sekiro not included) as well, IMO.
The story is told through its atmosphere and environmental clues. If the atmosphere and environment has not hooked you thus far, you most likely won't feel driven enough to conquer much harder challenges than Gascoigne.
However, if you are determined, the gameplay is strong enough on its own to make everything else work if you are patient enough. Just be prepared for an unforgiving challenge.
The story is told through its atmosphere and environmental clues. If the atmosphere and environment has not hooked you thus far, you most likely won't feel driven enough to conquer much harder challenges than Gascoigne.
However, if you are determined, the gameplay is strong enough on its own to make everything else work if you are patient enough. Just be prepared for an unforgiving challenge.
Calling games like God of War "not good" just sounds like you want attention tbqh.
Honestly imo that is a loaded question.
InitiallyI platinumed the game in ~15hrs when the game released and never looked back. Thought it was another souls game that lacked the punch that came with its forerunners.
and then I came back to the game a year later after finishing witcher 3 and then....
But seriously the game clicked HARD for me and mostly its the lore that amplified every parts of the game. I consider Bloodborne to be Miyazaki's Sistine chapel once it clicked for me.
How were you able to plat the game in 15 hours when the load times were so long?!
have NO idea how you beat Father G. I can't do it and actively hate it. I like Dark Souls because you get estus flasks automatically. so i can just die to bosses over and over and over. I have to farm for an hour to be prepped for every boss battle in BB and it's awful.
Father G is a BITCH to beat if you are not getting the hang of the parry system. Once you get better at that, you will find that boss much easier. Without that you can cheese him pretty easy...
Stage 1 - Lure him back to the stairs and just super cheese him by hitting him from behind the railing.
Stage 2 - Either keep him behind the rail, or if he gets out, use the music box that you hopefully got earlier in the level (If not, Google how to get that box) and his 2nd stage is a joke.
Here is a video explaining it --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5BOe6d_Yc
After this boss, the game slows down a bit and you can really get into it a lot easier.
Stage 1 - Lure him back to the stairs and just super cheese him by hitting him from behind the railing.
Stage 2 - Either keep him behind the rail, or if he gets out, use the music box that you hopefully got earlier in the level (If not, Google how to get that box) and his 2nd stage is a joke.
Here is a video explaining it --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5BOe6d_Yc
After this boss, the game slows down a bit and you can really get into it a lot easier.
It gets good at the title screen. Honestly I like the beginning of the game a lot... Central Yharnam is fantastic.
To be a contrary voice to most of this thread, honestly the answer is "never." You're either into what Bloodborne is doing, or you're not.
Bloodborne is a game with a great presentation and a strong aesthetic. I also think it never becomes fun to play. I can't say it's From Software's worst game of their modern period (because I think that dubious honour goes to Demon's Souls) but I never got what made people salivate about this title. I love horror, I love the style and narrative of the game, I got the platinum trophy! But outside of a few specific encounters, the game never was fun.
It's okay to just not click with it, OP. It's a game with a lot of serious problems. I often tell people that it's worth checking out, and that a lot of people love it, but if it's not thrilling you then it doesn't get better - it just keeps being Bloodborne. Which for many, is what they want. There are plot twists, but not play twists ahead, so you'll need to decide if that's enough for you. There is cool stuff to see, but the price is high. The last zone of the DLC is one of my favorite areas in a From Software game, but I had to slog through the entire rest of the game and the DLC to get there! Was it worth it? I dunno.
Why did I not have the same issues with Dark Souls 3, which similarly suffers from design issues like massive boss HP bloat and a deceptive lack of strong build diversity? I dunno. Anyway, I don't mean to ramble - only to say that it's okay to stop if you're not having fun. Go, be free. Play something that makes you happy.
Bloodborne is a game with a great presentation and a strong aesthetic. I also think it never becomes fun to play. I can't say it's From Software's worst game of their modern period (because I think that dubious honour goes to Demon's Souls) but I never got what made people salivate about this title. I love horror, I love the style and narrative of the game, I got the platinum trophy! But outside of a few specific encounters, the game never was fun.
It's okay to just not click with it, OP. It's a game with a lot of serious problems. I often tell people that it's worth checking out, and that a lot of people love it, but if it's not thrilling you then it doesn't get better - it just keeps being Bloodborne. Which for many, is what they want. There are plot twists, but not play twists ahead, so you'll need to decide if that's enough for you. There is cool stuff to see, but the price is high. The last zone of the DLC is one of my favorite areas in a From Software game, but I had to slog through the entire rest of the game and the DLC to get there! Was it worth it? I dunno.
Why did I not have the same issues with Dark Souls 3, which similarly suffers from design issues like massive boss HP bloat and a deceptive lack of strong build diversity? I dunno. Anyway, I don't mean to ramble - only to say that it's okay to stop if you're not having fun. Go, be free. Play something that makes you happy.
I disagree entirely. Was my first foray into soulsborne after bouncing off Demons Souls years prior. I did like the aesthetic but hated the loading times and kinda janky frame pacing and it wasn't until much later after beating some really cool bosses that it started to click.
damn :o
game is good at the beginning, becomes great soon after. However there is a certain ladder that leads to a place that will make you say WTF??? Best level design in a game.
If you are already a souls fan you typically know what to expect. But for the world and setting to click.
Here are some of my favourite bits
After Rom all the crazy shit start appearing, the creepy brain suckers, giant skeleton spider things
Getting killed by one of those assholes with the sack.
Completing Eileen's quest in my second playthrough. Most notably the Bloody Crow.
Exploring chalice dungeons buffed with various effects such as half health, frenzy mobs etc. The panic when you enter the first room and hear a distant bell ringing.
Most of the DLC
Exploring Upper Cathedral Ward and Cainhurst.
Here are some of my favourite bits
After Rom all the crazy shit start appearing, the creepy brain suckers, giant skeleton spider things
Getting killed by one of those assholes with the sack.
Completing Eileen's quest in my second playthrough. Most notably the Bloody Crow.
Exploring chalice dungeons buffed with various effects such as half health, frenzy mobs etc. The panic when you enter the first room and hear a distant bell ringing.
Most of the DLC
Exploring Upper Cathedral Ward and Cainhurst.
It really depends on what people like out of the genre. Is it the combat? Is it the build variety? The feeling of challenge? The overall visual design and aesthetic? The lore? The atmosphere? These factors I feel would be pretty indicative on the overall experience of Bloodborne. Maybe OP likes the visual design and atmosphere but doesn't feel the combat. In the case of someone I know who didn't like the game, he felt the build variety wasn't enough, despite liking the combat.
All of the factors that determine one's reception of Bloodborne are highly subjective.
It's poetic that the game everybody here universally loves eventually gets one of these threads lol.
OP, if honestly by the Father Gascoigne boss fight you aren't into it and looking to improve and learn the game mechanics, it's likely not going to do it for you. The other 'first' boss fight you can reach is arguably an easier one and normally the recommended first boss. Father Gascoigne is one where probably using the parry mechanic is recommended and arguably a solid first taste of the rest of the game. There's another boss later on that teaches you even more that you can't just spam the dodge button and get away with it because they hit hard and have a wide range so timing dodges becomes more important.
If one is remotely interested in the game by then, keep pushing. If you're hating every moment? Just stop. There's such a thing as a game never clicking with you. Case in point? Sekiro. I love From titles but Sekiro is too much of a departure of Soulsborne for me pushing me in the complete opposite direction of how I play these titles (super aggressive and close) that even if I was making progress I could tell I wasn't playing the game how the creators intended the combat to be done so I stopped before I kept going because I just wasn't enjoying the constant negativity I felt in mysel for not pushing to play it more aggressively.
OP, if honestly by the Father Gascoigne boss fight you aren't into it and looking to improve and learn the game mechanics, it's likely not going to do it for you. The other 'first' boss fight you can reach is arguably an easier one and normally the recommended first boss. Father Gascoigne is one where probably using the parry mechanic is recommended and arguably a solid first taste of the rest of the game. There's another boss later on that teaches you even more that you can't just spam the dodge button and get away with it because they hit hard and have a wide range so timing dodges becomes more important.
If one is remotely interested in the game by then, keep pushing. If you're hating every moment? Just stop. There's such a thing as a game never clicking with you. Case in point? Sekiro. I love From titles but Sekiro is too much of a departure of Soulsborne for me pushing me in the complete opposite direction of how I play these titles (super aggressive and close) that even if I was making progress I could tell I wasn't playing the game how the creators intended the combat to be done so I stopped before I kept going because I just wasn't enjoying the constant negativity I felt in mysel for not pushing to play it more aggressively.
Bookmarked for when I finally get around to playing this game
Gascoigne is the learning curve. If the game doesn't start picking up for you after him then the game probably isn't for you because it's just more of Gascoigne, only moreso.
For me it was shortly after beating Gascoine, the first level was a pain, but not because it sucks, but because i sucked at Bloodborne, but once I beat the father, everything started to come easier and I enjoyed it a lot.
It might very well be a case of the game just not being for you, OP. Aside from the different weapon options--which admittedly can add a decent amount of variety and feel better/worse depending on your preferred play styles, the mechanics are pretty much all on the table from the very start and the only things that improve are your character's stats and own skill as a player. It's very upfront about what it is and the atmospheric vibe it's gonna have throughout.
Sometimes games just don't click for whatever reason, even if you really enjoy everything else by the same developers. Myself, for example -- I love Bloodborne, but find Sekiro kinda lackluster. Still beat the game and all, but the combat never felt good and its story/world never properly managed to enthrall me. Sometimes it just be like that.
Sometimes games just don't click for whatever reason, even if you really enjoy everything else by the same developers. Myself, for example -- I love Bloodborne, but find Sekiro kinda lackluster. Still beat the game and all, but the combat never felt good and its story/world never properly managed to enthrall me. Sometimes it just be like that.
I'm going with another approach and say that the game clicks when you really start using L1 in your combos. That's where the depth of the weapon system really is. For instance, some L1 attacks makes you step backwards while attacking. That's super important once you learn some attack patterns the game throws at you.
Also, parrying never gets old. It's so satisfying, kinda like landing a deep shoryu in SF2 on a jumping opponent. That, along with the weapon system, if it clicks, should make you want to play more of that game in any part.
Also, parrying never gets old. It's so satisfying, kinda like landing a deep shoryu in SF2 on a jumping opponent. That, along with the weapon system, if it clicks, should make you want to play more of that game in any part.
Depends what you mean by "quality". If you're not enjoying the core gameplay/aesthetic/atmosphere after the first couple of bosses, perhaps it won't improve for you.
If you mean "When does it flip the script?" then without spoiling anything, probably after you beat Byrgenwerth.
Lol pretty much.
Dont worry OP, in 6 months you can make another LTTP where you can tell us that you have rediscovered the game and finally saw the light and now it has become the best game on PS4 and possibly, ever.
You would be the first person lol (I just couldnt get past the first area of the game, until it clicked)
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judging by this take, i'm thinking, for you, never. it'll never pick up...
i mean, when exactly did demon's souls pick up, in your opinion?...