I mean, the writers wrote the vox populi to be that way and then condemn them. They didn't have to write them that way.
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LTTP - Bioshock Infinite, I need to know something important regarding the writing
- Thread starter TheAuldTriangle
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I mean, the writers wrote the vox populi to be that way and then condemn them. They didn't have to write them that way.
The problem with the "both sides" from a gameplay standpoint is that you fight them exactly the same way. They justify it with the story, but it feels like a wasted opportunity to make a story point or a gameplay change.
There is also the story problem as both sides are just as bad to Booker which poses its own problems. It is the video game story equivalent of the Terry Crews "If you get rid of white supremacy, you get black supremacy" which is lazy at best, and racist at worst. If I was to really get to the root of the issue, it is that Booker sucks as a protagonist. I know that he is supposed to suck, but the rest of the game doesn't do a great job of proping up why you should be playing as him as opposed to Elizabeth (which was again solved in the DLC)
I understand your criticism, but not with playing as Booker
He is a jerk, but I love his interactions with Elizabeth and redemption storyline
Also, experiencing her development throughout the game wouldnt have been the same in first person view
I loved playing as her in Burial at Sea, but I reckon that I enjoyed it because she was developed previously
Even as a13 year old, which is how old I was when I played Bioshock Infinite, I remember being astounded that the game's story ultimately both-sided Jim Crow-level racism. like... wtf were they thinking?
I second this. I've been thinking about making a thread about Life is Strange 2 because I can't think of a single other game that tackles police brutality, Trump's America, and modern racism in America as openly and deftly as LiS 2
The game both sides the racial struggles and it's fucking trash. The DLC tries to explain some things, but I am not convinced.
My reaction at the time of its release was that the story was a gross equivocation. It traded on a legacy of racial and class struggle - seemingly as much for shock value as anything else - only to undermine the legitimacy of those viewpoints in order to posture at a centrist conclusion wrapped up in a bunch of poorly conceived plot. It was one of the few games that made me angry to play. Not in frustration at the gameplay itself - though I thought that too was poorly tuned at the higher difficulties - but at the views it was putting out into the world.
I can't imagine going back to play it now, and I wouldn't recommend anyone else does either.
I can't imagine going back to play it now, and I wouldn't recommend anyone else does either.
Call of Duty has more interesting encounter designs frankly.
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It's fucking awful, and always has been. If the beginning is offputting wait until they show the oppressed actually becoming worse than the oppressors later. Fuck this game.
It's also a poorly told scifi story even if you ignore all that, and the gameplay didn't really impress anybody even when it was new and shiny.
It's also a poorly told scifi story even if you ignore all that, and the gameplay didn't really impress anybody even when it was new and shiny.
You're going to be sorely disappointed.
The Vox Populi are trying to fight for their freedom and end up revolting, but the game goes "LOOK SEE, THEY'RE JUST AS BAD AS THE COLUMBIA PEOPLE!" Both sides!
Coming from the middle east, the both sides thing just rings true. Iraq after Saddam with its civil war, an armed opposition in Syria that's equally guilty of genocide as the regime, same for Libya.
Historically speaking, the French revolution against the Bourgeois and the mass execution of the noble class, the Bolshevik and the mass execution of the Tsarists.
Having an armed opposition equally guilty of war crimes as their oppressor isn't that far fetched and I don't see how anyone can hold it against Bioshock Infinite's story as a negative point.
Historically speaking, the French revolution against the Bourgeois and the mass execution of the noble class, the Bolshevik and the mass execution of the Tsarists.
Having an armed opposition equally guilty of war crimes as their oppressor isn't that far fetched and I don't see how anyone can hold it against Bioshock Infinite's story as a negative point.
I really enjoyed the American Exceptionalism aspect of the game (first 15 minutes of the game are easily among the best in the series), but like many others have said, it does falter pretty quickly.
One of those rare cases where 'lol' isn't a driveby shitpost but a valid answer to OP's question.
Nothing about BI's writing is good. In addition to poor handling of difficult subject matter, it's facile and self-contradictory. It doesn't make logical sense.
This and a thousand issues with its gameplay do not make me hesitate to call it a bad game, despite high production values and attractive art.
Nothing about BI's writing is good. In addition to poor handling of difficult subject matter, it's facile and self-contradictory. It doesn't make logical sense.
This and a thousand issues with its gameplay do not make me hesitate to call it a bad game, despite high production values and attractive art.
Hey, it's handling of it's themes may be trite, offensive trash, but at least it's got shoddy encounter design and a really terrible alternate worlds/time travel story!
Prepare for the worst fucking take this game could have settled on.
"Actually, the abused underclass-turned-revolutionaries are just as bad as the racists."
The story is really bad. I recall my 1st time through wondering why everyone was dumping on the story. Played through it again and it's awful. Probably the worst AAA story since the 2000s
This game takes a very hamfisted approach to racism and nationalism, and it abandons it for a story about redemption and multiple universes for...some reason.
Only a smidgen less bad compared to David Cage's offerings.
It doesn't even understand the concept of multiple universes.
It doesn't even understand the concept of multiple universes.
The most important thing to note about the writing is that it is very bad.
Infinite is actually just a bad game that we all thought we liked
Infinite is actually just a bad game that we all thought we liked