Is it actually a limited release? Should i just go to ebay? :(
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Lord of the Rings trilogy releasing on 4K December 1
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Sadly yes, they usually are. And be prepared to pay 2-3x the price on EBay.
IT’S OFFICIAL: The Lord of the Rings Trilogy & The Hobbit Trilogy arrive on 4K Ultra HD on 12/1!
All right Tolkien fans, this is it! Warner Bros. Home Entertainment has just provided us with the official confirmation: Peter Jackson’s The Lord of the Rings Trilogy and The Hobbit Trilogy will officially arrive on 4K Ultra HD on 12/1. The Hobbit Trilogy will include The Hobbit: An Unexpected...thedigitalbits.com
Wow. Okay. Well I guess I'm going to ignore my previous pre-order and opt for that one instead. Thanks!
Just dropped way too much on an ebay order for the steelbooks. But its my favorite franchise of all time. Ahh. Kinda have buyers remorse already- but lord of the rings.
You can always wait until the Ultimate Editions coming out in summer and just be ready to pre-order then.
I have no doubt it will.
IT’S OFFICIAL: The Lord of the Rings Trilogy & The Hobbit Trilogy arrive on 4K Ultra HD on 12/1!
All right Tolkien fans, this is it! Warner Bros. Home Entertainment has just provided us with the official confirmation: Peter Jackson’s The Lord of the Rings Trilogy and The Hobbit Trilogy will officially arrive on 4K Ultra HD on 12/1. The Hobbit Trilogy will include The Hobbit: An Unexpected...
Excellent, this means entirely new masters! The overly green color tint in FOTR should be gone. Will probably still look different from the original release on video since that one is overly pink. But I'm excited for new color grading.
Everyone's in here talking about green tints and 48fps while I'm just goddamn excited that they're re-scanning the original camera negatives which is way beyond what I was anticipating given how extensive the CG work in these films are and what a monumental task it must be to be going back to scratch. But what an absolute delight that's going to be. Instead of relying on crummy 2k DIs from the early 2000s, this could now be an absolute top-tier reference-grade release.
That they're releasing both the Theatricals and the EEs together is just fantastic - they'll probably be receiving the same treatment and remaster unlike the Blu-Ray versions, so thankfully it sounds like the Theatricals won't get left in the mud this time. And with the added bonus that they're being sold separate from The Hobbit: they're hitting all the marks so far. Can't wait to own these films remastered in a way that they deserve.
Fingers fucking crossed everything goes smoothly from here on out, but it's sounding glorious.
EDIT: Like, I can't overstate how happy I am that in 2020, when the world has all but moved on from physical media, a studio has seemingly put real fuckin money behind a 4k release, and now a sizeable chunk of people may be sitting in their living rooms on Christmas with a PS5 and UHD copies of LOTR and get legitimately blown away by the potential of the medium. Can't believe it.
That they're releasing both the Theatricals and the EEs together is just fantastic - they'll probably be receiving the same treatment and remaster unlike the Blu-Ray versions, so thankfully it sounds like the Theatricals won't get left in the mud this time. And with the added bonus that they're being sold separate from The Hobbit: they're hitting all the marks so far. Can't wait to own these films remastered in a way that they deserve.
Fingers fucking crossed everything goes smoothly from here on out, but it's sounding glorious.
EDIT: Like, I can't overstate how happy I am that in 2020, when the world has all but moved on from physical media, a studio has seemingly put real fuckin money behind a 4k release, and now a sizeable chunk of people may be sitting in their living rooms on Christmas with a PS5 and UHD copies of LOTR and get legitimately blown away by the potential of the medium. Can't believe it.
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Awesome. So the only thing missing from the December versions is the special features from the Blu Ray??
Confusing ass release.
how many new features could they even add I wonder. Preordered the one in December because I have the blurays with the features. Probably will just watch the new shit on YouTube when someone uploads it.
Maybe Christopher Lee explaining what it sounds like to stab someone with a knife was caught on camera, and they've decided to include that, amongst other things.
Yeah we usually don't get pre-orders for UHDs until much closer to release. Kinda frustrating but it'll definitely show up eventually. Whether we'll get a steelbook release is another question.
They will probably film a bunch of new interviews with people involved in making the movies.
Yeah, kinda wondering that also. The current set (and I assume this set in December) already has an absurd amount of bonus features.
4k scans of the film outs... if I'm not mistaken, they're not redoing the effects in 4k, they are scanning the film that the sfx were outputted to 20 odd years ago. So 4k scans of a 2k filmout.
Steelbook edition would be an instant preorder/buy for me.
I assume if they do announce a limited edition it will sell out pretty quickly just before Christmas, I wonder if they managed to put in any more extras this time around.
I know what I'm doing Boxing Day!
Not seen any yet but we always seem to get pre-orders later.
The pre-orders for Back to the Future 4k went up a few weeks after US pre-orders, so this will probably be the same.
I could be mistaken but that's what it sounds like to me too. I'd be very surprised if they're actually re-rendering the CGI.
It's looking like all of the editions they're putting out this year have next to no extras - it's a barebones release with just the films, theatrical and EE, no Blu-Rays either. There's already an announcement that there's gonna be a super release middle of next year with added bonus content. If you're willing to wait longer, shell out more money, and begrudgingly accept The Hobbit trilogy into your set, that might be the way to go.
Nah, word is they've rescanned the original negatives. So I think at minimum we'll get a situation similar to many current UHDs where SFX shots will be in 2k and everything else will be in 4k. But according Bill Hunt's twitter and the link above, they're rescanning the original negatives and the special effects shots into 4k. Not sure what source he's pulling from and I wouldn't get my hopes super high, but a man can dream.
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Any shot that doesn't have CGI can, and definitely will be, scanned in 4K. No problem there. The issue is the CG.
Unless they have all the original computer files, assets and equipment to even open those files... Their only source is the film negative that they exported their CGI shots to in the early 2000s. These would have been exported in 2K. While film is definitely CAPABLE of high resolutions, those effects shots are not taking advantage of it. It's like taking an MP3 and converting it to WAV: it doesn't magically make that MP3 sound better.
So yeah, those shots are going to be softer than the shots that have no CG.
sent my wife an email with the best buy link. should make a great birthday/christmas gift for me :)
Oh okay, I thought you were thinking the whole film would be 2k upscaled.
But yeah, I agree, it wouldn't make sense that they'd be able to re-render the CG shots at 4k, but that's what's being talked about right now. I imagine it's a big game of telephone and that's not happening given how monumental a task it would be, but like I said, a man can dream. Regardless, it'll just be astounding seeing these films escape from the clutches of their early 2K DI issues. Could be a substantial step up from any presentation of the films we've seen before.
The majority of 4K releases still come from 2K masters, that's not the part that interests me nearly as much as proper HDR.
And fixing FotR EE. I won't go near this collection until after release when it's confirmed fixed. Don't just take their word for it or lean too heavily on the "new master" verbiage. They still have plenty of opportunity to fuck this up.
And fixing FotR EE. I won't go near this collection until after release when it's confirmed fixed. Don't just take their word for it or lean too heavily on the "new master" verbiage. They still have plenty of opportunity to fuck this up.
It was 89 last night but here it is for 94
Don't care/believe when they said Jackson personally oversaw the transfer like James Cameron & Alien?
I never really understand the "I don't care about 4k in a UHD release." Like, yeah it's only one component, but it's one component of like three that can make a noticeable difference. In this instance especially, if the source was the 2K DI from 2001-2003, it would have been a flat, murky mess and indeed, the HDR would have been drastically limited (which is why I suspect they've gone back to the negative).
And when it comes to HDR, the colour grade needs to be done from scratch, so unless the colourists are committed to recreating the green tint of the EE BDs, I can't see a reason why that problem would crop up again.
If it's true that Peter Jackson and his team really are working on remastered the VFX to 4k (something that doesn't normally happen) these films should look outstanding in 4k.
Will they feature HDR?
I was thinking about getting these movies again in HD anyway but I might just wait for the 4K Extended LotR set if it features HDR.
I don't really like it when effects and rest of the image don't match in terms of resolution, so maybe I'm just getting the BluRay if HDR is not in play.
I was thinking about getting these movies again in HD anyway but I might just wait for the 4K Extended LotR set if it features HDR.
I don't really like it when effects and rest of the image don't match in terms of resolution, so maybe I'm just getting the BluRay if HDR is not in play.
Oh definitely! Scanner technology has improved leaps and bounds since the early aughts. So we should be getting a nice upgrade.
As a side note: if they're reassembling the film from the original camera negative, that means they're going to have to do the framing and color timing all over again. That might prove to be controversial. Can't wait to find out more!
they will have HDR yes, how much the film will actually benefit is always determined by the type of film the movie was shot on, how scenes were shot and lit, then how it was scanned for the transfer etc.
Reports are saying they will feature HDR + Dolby Vision and a new Dolby Atmos Audio mix too.