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Rocketz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Richard from Hoeg Law reviews the applications and filings in a new video. Super interesting information if you want to understand how something like this can happen.

 

Nola

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Oct 29, 2017
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Honestly 'Fenyx Rising" is the real issue I have with the title.

It's just....bad. Really, really bad.

I honestly didn't care for Gods and Monsters either. All of the titles have been really uninspired.
 

Mivey

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ubi should have just paid Monster Energy some money and have it appear in the game. They clearly have no problem with being used as product placement
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Soviet

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Oct 28, 2017
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As far as bad "gamey" titles go, Immortals Fenyx Rising is still better than Unknown 9: Awakening.
 

Loud Wrong

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Call it whatever you want, just release it on time. My most anticipated title for the PS5 at the end of the year. Looks like BoTW with actual fun combat.
 

IIFloodyII

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Oct 26, 2017
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Would have never guessed that's why, surprised it was enough for Monster to get it changed too.
 

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It was likely renamed because the title is too generic and wouldn't help discoverability online. This was the case with several games at Ubisoft. Starlink: Battle for Atlas as one example. Subtitling also helps if you create subsequent titles in a franchise. Some Ubisoft IPs have ditched numbering sequels entirely, like AC, GR, and Watchdogs.
 

thepenguin55

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Oct 28, 2017
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Could they have not changed it to Gods & Beasts or something along those lines? The new name is just so bad
 

Lowrys

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Oct 25, 2017
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It was likely renamed because the title is too generic and wouldn't help discoverability online. This was the case with several games at Ubisoft. Starlink: Battle for Atlas as one example. Subtitling also helps if you create subsequent titles in a franchise. Some Ubisoft IPs have ditched numbering sequels entirely, like AC, GR, and Watchdogs.
Speaking as a lawyer, this seems far more plausible than anything to do with Monster Energy. Highly unlikely to be any IP issue there.
 

Dosmo

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Oct 26, 2017
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I feel like it's always a bad sign when there's a colon in the name of the first game in a series.
 

Alastor3

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Oct 28, 2017
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with a title as immortal, the fenyx rising is just a subtitle and will change if they ever make a 2

can't wait for Immortals 2; cthulu rising
 

Muu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Monster energy drinks or monster cable? I recall the latter had a pretty strong marketing arm that kept companies from using 'monster' in their names in the past.
 
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Rocketz

Rocketz

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Speaking as a lawyer, this seems far more plausible than anything to do with Monster Energy. Highly unlikely to be any IP issue there.
Would you file a trademark for something even if you were going to update the title later? Looks like they filed for a lot of different items and once Monster made their appeal, Ubisoft appeared to just back away from the name.
 

GrahamGoring

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Nov 8, 2017
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This happened to a game I worked on where another company claimed our name could cause brand confusion (which it TOTES could have, and indeed, did), although our subsequent name change was a lot less pronounced.