If you can't hear idiots in this clip then I guess it's the perception of native vs non native English speaker earing? Non native speaker here and I clearly hear idiots haha.
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LoL streamer 'TF Blade' has been suspended from Twitch for "allegedly" using a racial slur
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If you can't hear idiots in this clip then I guess it's the perception of native vs non native English speaker earing? Non native speaker here and I clearly hear idiots haha.
It doesn't sound like that at all, but fair enough if you can't hear it.
Listen to it slowed down. He clearly says idiots. There is not a single n or er sound at all.
Slowed down there is an insanely clear N and igga sound. Combined together. No component of idiot at all.
A guy saying the N word as plain as day and it's "no, he's saying negative" "no he's saying idiot"
Alrighty then. That's certainly a new way to look at this.
Is it possible that you merely sending the clip communicated to the recipients in a subtle way that they should expect something unsavory?
I mean, I wouldn't blame anyone for expecting to hear racist language from a twitch streamer. I think that's why there are so many people on the n-word side in this case, because twitch, as an entity, is having a problem with this stuff lately. It's on the tip of everybody's brain to connect gamers/streamers and racism.
There isn't, imo, like even close. I have no idea how anyone can hear that in the slowed down version, it's crystal clear.
Yeah I do not hear any "n" sound at all, just a slight nasally tone; he doesn't pronounce the t very well so it sounds like ih-dee-a-tss (with the t-sound being so quick it's easy to miss.)
then you need to check your hearing.
How so? There's no component of the word idiot there. It's as plain as day the A ending n word.
Hmm, my hearing is pretty good. Sorry I just don't like racism when I hear it?
Nice edit.
An no, it's clearly idiot. Hence the thread being the way it is.
You're wrong here, imo.
The rhythm of the slowed down one clearly shows a 3 part word that clearly says i-dii-otss.
Dude, I came in expecting to hear the n word and I still couldn't hear it.
I wish this clip was longer. There's a lot of audio happening at once and I can't tell what's being responded to, so it's hard to judge context (doesn't sound like 'negative' to me; not sure what he'd be replying to with that anyway). I agree in that it is what I hear though.
I don't hear any G sound or R sound in any of the vids. There's definitely a N in the beginning but, that's just a fucking N, especially when the word just before end by a N sound.
For example in my language there might be a sound transition between two words. I could see myself saying "fuckin-nidiots"
For example in my language there might be a sound transition between two words. I could see myself saying "fuckin-nidiots"
I didn't "edit" anything. That post has been the same since I posted it. But nice attempt at what? Saying I accused you of racism or??? (I mean, you're defending a guy saying the n word so.....) Like, what?
And no, it's clearly the n word.
Yes you did, you added in the second paragraph after you hit reply because when I quoted you right after you posted it wasn't there. Flash edits don't get the edit tag, there's a brief window.
And no, it's not clearly the n-word. You're hearing that one wrong, imo.
I think people aren't all listening to the same clips lol...
In the one where he says "Holy shit kill these ___" it's plain as day "idiots" to me.. like if I REALLY stretch while listening to it I can imagine how someone not paying much attention might hear something different, but with analysis it's idiots.
The other clip where he just says "Fucking ____" sounds like he's saying n---a, but it isn't 100%.. and is that even him talking? Sounds like a different person, and judging by the faces on the video, is he streaming with a black guy?
I have a feeling a lot of the people saying there's NO CHANCE he said idiot are listening to clip 2, where he definitely doesn't say idiots.
In the one where he says "Holy shit kill these ___" it's plain as day "idiots" to me.. like if I REALLY stretch while listening to it I can imagine how someone not paying much attention might hear something different, but with analysis it's idiots.
The other clip where he just says "Fucking ____" sounds like he's saying n---a, but it isn't 100%.. and is that even him talking? Sounds like a different person, and judging by the faces on the video, is he streaming with a black guy?
I have a feeling a lot of the people saying there's NO CHANCE he said idiot are listening to clip 2, where he definitely doesn't say idiots.
Human brains are surprisingly bad at decoding ambiguous noises that we don't often hear.
So what's more likely? You hearing it correctly over the 95% that hear idiot, or the inverse?
Were you a yanny or laurel person? Were you ever able to hear it both ways?
Keep trying here. I heard it as the slur at first, but on subsequent listenings can not even detect an n or g sound, especially at 0.25x. There is clearly an auditory illusion here.
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"is that everyone was bending over backwards, without even hearing the proper clip like the Riot employee, or going after women [...]"
Maybe that's worded better. Sorry.
But it wasn't only Riot Blaustoise:
No, I didn't. The post is the same as when I posted it the first time. Now you're just making up shit about my post and trying to what? Act like you're a victim here? That I insulted you? What are you even trying to do?
That you're willing to make up shit about my posts just makes me further side-eye this whole thing.
I didn't edit my post, I know that 100%. I quoted it after you hit reply, so I know without doubt that you're being dishonest and did indeed drop in an edit after you hit reply for the first time.
Ignored, no time for this.
I could hear it both ways.
But there's no yanny/laurel situation here. It's a very clear N and igga sound. No syllable of idiot.
I heard the n word in the office, playing on crap speakers at lower volumes. Switched to Sennheiser headphones and cranked it up and it sounds like idiots.
Pulled two people off the floor in and made them listen to it without context, one on the speakers and the other with the headphones. They both went the same way I did. n-word on speaker, idiot on headphones.
I'm not sure I can say which he actually said, but in my mind there's now certainly room for it to be either.
Pulled two people off the floor in and made them listen to it without context, one on the speakers and the other with the headphones. They both went the same way I did. n-word on speaker, idiot on headphones.
I'm not sure I can say which he actually said, but in my mind there's now certainly room for it to be either.
User banned (2 weeks): inflammatory accusations against other members, arguing in bad faith by misrepresenting information + long history of hostility
You're the one accusing me of doing something I didn't in an immature manner while also defending the n word. That combined together just makes me think you're willing to go to whatever lengths to defend racist shit. :shrug:
this time an actual edit: I was about to put you on ignore myself, for....exactly that immature behavior
Your certainty is admirable, but entirely misplaced and shows a deep ignorance of auditory illusions brought on by ambiguity and priming. This is not a "clear" case of either or, if it were then near 100% of native speakers would be hearing one thing or the other.
Especially when the syllables between the two words are very similar. A nasal "i" in "idiots" could easily turn into an "n" and the "d" could easily turn into "g".
I honestly do not know. It's possible, just like it's possible it's not, if you get what I mean. I can tell you none of them play videogames and I don't think a single one knows what Twitch is. I even went the extra way to download the audioclip and rename it "audioclip" so they basically didn't even know where it was from.
But you know, I'm not all that close with them, save the usual standard working relationship. Who knows what they really were predisposed to hear really! Perhaps you're right. But then again perhaps you're not :/
At this point I feel like I would give the guy the benefit of the doubt if it weren't for that second audioclip with a 2 syllables "negative"....
So is there a reason why you're only responding to people who hear the n word?
Every clip posted?
The slowed down ones that are using programs like Audacity and the regular speed ones.
I'm also using my speakers and Sennheiser headphones like the previous poster mentioned. Can only hear the n word.
I think if he didn't say it, he and his followers have every right to be upset. When I listen to it, I definitely dont hear a slur. Anyone who claims with 100 percent certainty they know what he is saying is 100 percent full of shit. And if Twitch can't be definitive about a slur, they have no business banning people.
marrec hasn't got a history of being racist, just pedantic. The latter is why.
Rumor is that he has someone at Twitch who vouches or helps him not get banned, or at the very least get them reduced. When he got banned the second time for threatening a kid, he was initially suspended indefinitely, but got it reduced to 3 days. His first one was making fun of another streamer's physical appearance which got him 7 days, but he complained and got it down to 24 hours.
If you're talking about the first clip where he can be heard saying "holy shit, kill these idiots," I am certain it can be heard either way because I have heard it both ways on different hearings of the same recording. Keep trying and you might be able to see that you're mistaken about this. Listen the audio at 0.25x
I know what those concepts are and have studied language and it's part within psychology.
This isn't a priming case for me. It's as plain as day no matter how times I listen to this.
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