Just curious, do we know if the GameXplain review was written by the same person who did their absolutely dreadful one hour preview?
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Little Town Hero Review Thread [see staff post]
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Yeah I admit the only main games I played after the 3rd gen were; Diamond, Black, X, and Let's Go Pikachu.
So it's not like I didn't play them, but for whstever reason they didn't grab me enough to play more than a few badges. This wasn't the case when I fully beat Yellow, Silver, Crystal, Sapphire, and Emerald. And fully beat for spin-offs; Stadium 1, 2, Colosseum, and XD.
But I've always been here observing and keeping up with the franchise otherwise. Sorry if it seems like I'm making big uninformed opinions, but that's how I feel anyway. :P
The GameXplain review makes this sound very undercooked, which leads me to question why Game Freak released it now? They have Pokemon coming next month so it's not like they couldn't afford to give this more time...
Seems like a shame.
Seems like a shame.
ouch, it's now at 67 on MC and 66 on OC
Nintenderos (8/10, review in spanish):
TrustedReviews (3.5.5):
FNintendo (6/10, review in portuguese):
GameSpot (5/10):
USgamer (2/5):
Nintenderos (8/10, review in spanish):
TrustedReviews (3.5.5):
FNintendo (6/10, review in portuguese):
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The game never looked terribly impressive but I expected it to get better reviews than this, at least in the 70 range. Shame.
What most surprises me is that a game focused on a single Town has so little to do inside that town. It was the one area where I was expecting more depth and one of the reasons I was initially excited for the game.
Yes, it's the same person, which he confirmed in the 1-hour preview thread.
Well, it's clearly a game where there isn't a clear scoring consensus. Some reviewers loved it, some reviewers hated it.
same, the idea of a game taking place in one town immediately made me think there would be so much to do in it. in a regular RPG with 10 or 20 towns, it may not be a big deal but here it would really stick out.
If I had to guess, perhaps they realized there was no saving this mess critically or financially, so they just put a hard deadline and got the game out.
It's was concerning when the game got a big reveal, then they went radio silent for so long before saying "uhh out next month".
Yeah that's possible they want Pokemon to release soon after so everyone forgets about this.
Stay on topic, this isn't a pokemon thread
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I'm not surprised that reviewer didn't like the game looking at his play footage. Definitely doesn't seem like his sort of game.
Yeah and I think that's my biggest disappointment with this title. I was hoping the town was super dense, with a dozen or so residents you'd grow to love through various interactions/quest. If it were that, I could've easily put with with its strange battle system.
I'm still not sure I understand what the game is trying to achieve with its concept.
Is it the idea that there are several different areas where combat can take place and each area comes with unique additions to the battle mechanics? In that case navigating around a fixed town is a good way to familiarize the player with the types of areas.
But on the other hand, GameXplain made it sound like only a small number of these areas actually had additional mechanics.
Is it the idea that you can recruite town members and they bring with them unique additions to the battle mechanics? In that case is fighting the villagers meant to be a way to demonstrate their individual abilities to the player?
Is it a combination of both where we're supposed to mix and match partners and locations to explore the system?
Do we even have control over where battles take place?
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Got the game. Enjoying it quite a bit.
Not the best 1st party game this year, but all in all a nice little filler.
I like the fact that the battle is more than just spamming your favourite moves. I really do. I love the artstyle and the little quirky humor.
Easy eight, even 8,5 from me.
Not the best 1st party game this year, but all in all a nice little filler.
I like the fact that the battle is more than just spamming your favourite moves. I really do. I love the artstyle and the little quirky humor.
Easy eight, even 8,5 from me.
Do you have complete control over which area battles take place in and who to recruit to each fight? If so, does that help mitigate some of the randomness of the idea/ability system? Like, can you plan strategies by deciding ahead of time where to fight and who to recruit, for a given monster?
Any word on the soundtrack being sold separately? Not interested in the game but I'm in for more Toby music
The core of the concept is "try and find ways to break the enemy's attacks as efficiently as possible." All the other mechanics and such are implemented in service of that goal. Moving around in battle is done to give you opportunities to reach townspeople or other helpful gadgets that basically give you a one-use aid of some kind.
The ideas that Axe uses to fight can be upgraded over time but it doesn't seem like you get many if any "new" attacks, so the way the game changes things up seems to do a lot with new enemies introducing new wrinkles with their own attacks that require different strategies to deal with.
I think a lot of what's hanging people up is just the way the game expects you to use everything at your disposal--and smartly, at that--in order to win. Monster battles are never something to be breezed through, even in the first one, so grasping the mechanics quickly and getting the most out of your resources is essential. Think in whole turns and not just the next action.
Not mechanically, but approach-wise, I kind of want to say to not think about this game like Pokemon, and more like Fire Emblem. Battling is the front and center focus. Those games historically are judged more on the interplay of their systems more than the real "RPG" parts of them. Battles are lengthy and deliberate, and knowingly so. You're not meant to breeze through a fight from start to finish, it's meant to feel daunting. LTH just takes that sort of mentality and condenses it down into 1-on-1 fights in a village, rather than armies waging war across a countryside.
I think I understand your point and also why people coming into this game with certain expectations might be disappointed. What I'm trying to figure out in order to decide if this game is for me concerns the degree of control the player has over the outcome of battles.
I understand that the kinds of moves available to you in battle, as well as the amount of energy available to activate those moves are two aspects where - unlike standard jrpgs - there is some randomness. Hence the player has a more limited amount of control. In that case is the player expected to rely on luck or multiple tries to win a battle (as the game explain review suggests) or are there other aspects of the mechanics at the players disposal which they are expected to learn how to use in order to increase their chances of success in battles? Choosing the location and who to recruit appear to be such potential aspects.
I haven't yet exactly figured out if there's a particular order to the way ideas are moved from your Headspace into the active pool or if that aspect of it is randomized. The best way I can think to answer your question is that there is some randomness/luck in battles, but there are also mechanisms that you'll have in place to help mitigate some of that.
For instance, moving around the village in battle is normally controlled via dice rolls, but a few of Axe's dazzits (actions) have conditions that will grant you a perk called Free Mobility, which will let you move to any space you want within a range for the next turn. So if you're close to a villager you want to make use of in the next round, you can seek one of those moves.
There's a system in place in which you can gain BP, a resource that you can trade to let you bring an idea from your Headspace (essentially Axe's "deck") into your active rotation that turn. So if you feel like you really need access to something in particular in a round, you can get it, but be warned that each time you do this in a fight raises the BP cost to do it again, so it's best done sparingly. Generally it's best to try and make do with what you're given, but if you don't feel like you can, it's a decent emergency option. I don't think the big fights are really designed for you to necessarily score easy All-Breaks every round, so weighing opportunity cost is important.
For instance, moving around the village in battle is normally controlled via dice rolls, but a few of Axe's dazzits (actions) have conditions that will grant you a perk called Free Mobility, which will let you move to any space you want within a range for the next turn. So if you're close to a villager you want to make use of in the next round, you can seek one of those moves.
There's a system in place in which you can gain BP, a resource that you can trade to let you bring an idea from your Headspace (essentially Axe's "deck") into your active rotation that turn. So if you feel like you really need access to something in particular in a round, you can get it, but be warned that each time you do this in a fight raises the BP cost to do it again, so it's best done sparingly. Generally it's best to try and make do with what you're given, but if you don't feel like you can, it's a decent emergency option. I don't think the big fights are really designed for you to necessarily score easy All-Breaks every round, so weighing opportunity cost is important.
Interesting! Thanks for the detailed reply! Seems like the battle system is indeed something the player needs to delve into more deeply.
In that case this game could really use a demo!
No it's not, Little Town Hero is suppose to be a short game. So that length is just fine.
In some cases, but not all the time. Especially in the early stages of the game (Im still not very far) there is much more randomness than you'd find in traditional system.
It's THE 1st party game.
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I know Game Freak's non-Pokémon stuff tends to review poorly, but I'm surprised it's as low as it is. Would've expected something more in the mid-high 70s.
Something I already see that drives me absolutely crazy is a lack of NPC variety.
Already within the first 30 minutes you go to work in a mine and there are 6 NPC's, FOUR of which are identical, the other two also being the same under a different model.
Stuff like that is just inexcusable.
Already within the first 30 minutes you go to work in a mine and there are 6 NPC's, FOUR of which are identical, the other two also being the same under a different model.
Stuff like that is just inexcusable.
I'm so used to someone else already being on top of an OT that it didn't even cross my mind until the game's already been out.
I'm feeling tempted to throw something together because it would be nice for there to be a spot to actually talk about the game itself beyond the review capacity, since there IS some pretty decent stuff to discuss. I just finished Chapter 2 a few minutes ago and whew. This game does a good job of making fights feel daunting, which is a bit at-odds with its presentation but something about it still is kinda working for me so far, lol.
I'm feeling tempted to throw something together because it would be nice for there to be a spot to actually talk about the game itself beyond the review capacity, since there IS some pretty decent stuff to discuss. I just finished Chapter 2 a few minutes ago and whew. This game does a good job of making fights feel daunting, which is a bit at-odds with its presentation but something about it still is kinda working for me so far, lol.
I don't get this. They gave BotW not even the best praise on their scale.
I just finished the first chapter/battle and this is exactly the kind of card battling game that attracts me instantly. I needed that first heavy tutorial chapter to explain everything to me like I am a child who has never played this type of game before. I think I may have artificially inflated the combat a bit by making a few rookie mistakes, like not locking in my Dazzits before using Ember's buff power. It seems like the better you are at this sort of game, the faster you're going to blaze through it.
I don't think the graphics are anything to write home about. Sound design is interesting, I'm into it.
I don't think the graphics are anything to write home about. Sound design is interesting, I'm into it.
LTH does a really good job at making sure monster fights are even. Fights that I thought I had messed up badly at the beginning could usually be pulled back through clever use of the mechanics.
The opposite also exists though. Fights I thought I was cruising through would find me getting slapped down to reality the next turn.
Well, in the absence of anybody else taking on the mantle (and I did check the coordination thread beforehand too just to be sure), I went ahead and threw together an OT. Hope it'll at least suffice for those of us here that are making our way through the game itself to talk about outside of review context.
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